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I like the new detachments so far. If you forget about the fluff crap aka "dynasties" aka forced TK theme, it basically is a return to TruCrons and Silve Tide armies aka how Necrons are meant to be played.

Looks very, very promising so far.

...and yes, they don't seem to be suitable for competitive play as in no vehicles. But if you seriously consider 40k in its current state "competitive", then...well...#1.

 Sigvatr wrote:
I like the new detachments so far. If you forget about the fluff crap aka "dynasties" aka forced TK theme, it basically is a return to TruCrons and Silve Tide armies aka how Necrons are meant to be played.

Looks very, very promising so far.

...and yes, they don't seem to be suitable for competitive play as in no vehicles. But if you seriously consider 40k in its current state "competitive", then...well...#1.

Actually it's pretty competitive. 8 Troop Slots = 2 more Night Scythes with 5 man Warrior squads + Stormteks. Losing ObSec is bad, but being able to fit more Flyers is perfectly fine for many competitive players.

That is assuming that Night Scythes are still dedicated transports for troop choices.

Ye, but taking min squads means that any bonus to RP is almost worthless. And I also doubt that the NS remains a DT.

But overall, those two formations seem to be very reasonable and fitting.

Can this combo with the leaked new dynasty tactic of re-rolling 1's on reanimation protocols?

So take the 2 x warrior squads, 1 x immortal squad all with lords and res orbs and the monolith all under the dynsasty basically making them invincible?

bodazoka wrote:
Can this combo with the leaked new dynasty tactic of re-rolling 1's on reanimation protocols?

So take the 2 x warrior squads, 1 x immortal squad all with lords and res orbs and the monolith all under the dynsasty basically making them invincible?

You mean besides getting whiped off the table 10 ways to sunday?

bodazoka wrote:
Can this combo with the leaked new dynasty tactic of re-rolling 1's on reanimation protocols?

So take the 2 x warrior squads, 1 x immortal squad all with lords and res orbs and the monolith all under the dynsasty basically making them invincible?

No, Models in a formation cant ALSo be part of a FoC detachment.

 Desubot wrote:

bodazoka wrote:
Can this combo with the leaked new dynasty tactic of re-rolling 1's on reanimation protocols?

So take the 2 x warrior squads, 1 x immortal squad all with lords and res orbs and the monolith all under the dynsasty basically making them invincible?

You mean besides getting whiped off the table 10 ways to sunday?

What?

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Mephrit Dynasty Resurgance Decurion

REQUIREMENTS: 2 Units of Warriors, 2 Units of Immortals, and a Monolith

REWARD: At the beggining of the movement phase, the Monolith can repair 1d6 warriors, or 1d3 Immortals, from a single unit within 6″

Much better- cheers Souza

Quick question from me to any existing necron players: Are those base sizes in the leaked pictures the same as current models?

I'm interested in getting some necron units now (I think the battle force will still be a safe bet, regardless of what the new codex brings) but I don't want to be penalized for buying before the new codex.

Thanks.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Quick question from me to any existing necron players: Are those base sizes in the leaked pictures the same as current models?

I'm interested in getting some necron units now (I think the battle force will still be a safe bet, regardless of what the new codex brings) but I don't want to be penalized for buying before the new codex.

Thanks.

From the look of it, they're on the new 32s (let's be honest, the current size is a pain in the butt to put Warriors on- how many of you have Warrior/Immortal feet hanging off in mid air?)

bodazoka wrote:
Can this combo with the leaked new dynasty tactic of re-rolling 1's on reanimation protocols?

So take the 2 x warrior squads, 1 x immortal squad all with lords and res orbs and the monolith all under the dynsasty basically making them invincible?

How are they even borderline invincible? Sweep in melee, done.

 Sigvatr wrote:

bodazoka wrote:
Can this combo with the leaked new dynasty tactic of re-rolling 1's on reanimation protocols?

So take the 2 x warrior squads, 1 x immortal squad all with lords and res orbs and the monolith all under the dynsasty basically making them invincible?

How are they even borderline invincible? Sweep in melee, done.

While we are at a disadvantage in melee it's not a guaranteed sweep everytime. People still pass 7 leadership. And then the next combat we're back at full strength with a counter charge.

bodazoka wrote:
Can this combo with the leaked new dynasty tactic of re-rolling 1's on reanimation protocols?

So take the 2 x warrior squads, 1 x immortal squad all with lords and res orbs and the monolith all under the dynsasty basically making them invincible?

No. Formations are outside of detachments.
I know people like to call the alternate detachments formations, but they are not the same.

*I removed the pic, it was already posted*

@Warhams: Adam Souza beat you to it I'm afraid. Thanks though.

Sorry, my tablet hasnt loaded his so I missed :(

 Ghaz wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
They are computers, they don't use set tactics rather then constantly run efficiency algorithms.

Sorry, but according to the current background that's not true.

Even in the previous background, that wasn't really true.

Does a formation let you take dedicated transports? I could se this formation being somewhat useful, even with the Monolith tax. It is kind of a downer that you can't add royal court models to the units.

 Fafnir13 wrote:
Does a formation let you take dedicated transports?

Unless the formation's restrictions say otherwise, you can.

Where are these pics from? I see a lot of Basic Warriors with Gauss Blasters, rather than Flayers. Does this mean they're repackaging? Just conversions?

Would be cool to be able to upgrade warriors to have Blasters, but that would probably move Immortals to Elites.

EDIT: Looking closer, I'm not sure they are blasters, maybe just bigger Flayers. An attempt to rid themselves of the plastic rods?

They are a conversion replacing the green rods from warriors with blaster bits.

 Melcavuk wrote:
They are a conversion replacing the green rods from warriors with blaster bits.

Man! That seems like a great deal of work and cost for little gain. You can just paint those rods. Lol.

From the looks of the rumours I think I'm going to pick up some necron vehicles first, as I doubt they will have their models changed, and then pick up the infantry later.

Thanks.

Just glad it looks like they're not changing Reanimation Protocols to FNP.

 docdoom77 wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:
They are a conversion replacing the green rods from warriors with blaster bits.

Man! That seems like a great deal of work and cost for little gain. You can just paint those rods. Lol.

I actually miss the green rods. Those are the necron weapons I remember.

 jasper76 wrote:
Just glad it looks like they're not changing Reanimation Protocols to FNP.

This, 1000 times over. I was very afraid they'd lose flavor in favor of USRs, but had a little hope after the Dark Eldar codex kept things a little weird.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me to see RP nerfed to a 6+ (5+ with res orb) in exchange for cheaper warriors.

We'll see.

My money is on RP staying at 5+ (modifiable). 5+ RP isnt really that OP. 4+, on the other hand...

I'm interested to see if they change the CCB.

It really has no precedent, and at the moment is in a strange place regarding some rules due to its conception in 5th ed, like invulnerable saves for rider effecting the chariot.

No idea if or how they will change it.