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 adamsouza wrote:
Necrons don't need anything crazy and new added, just bring the Pariahs back as a Royal Court option.

They would still need some tuning, imo. Would making Psykers run away really do anything for us as a psychic defense?

Although, a Despairtek in a squad of old-school Pariahs would be pretty dang fun.

Drakmord wrote:
They would still need some tuning, imo. Would making Psykers run away really do anything for us as a psychic defense?

As someone who ebayed an old Pariah model to paint up and use as an allied Culexus: Absolutely.

Having someone who can shoot twelve high strength armour ignoring shots into a Grey Knight Terminator squad or stroll up to Typhus or a Great Unclean One and kick 'em in the nads so hard they explode is a wonderful counter... And whilst Pariahs would be a lot less extreme, you'd have a whole unit of them.

 agnosto wrote:
All the psy-hate brings me back to my Tau army. Sure, I have an army where no flier is safe but have no way to prevent psy-spam armies from just plunking down whole units every turn.

If Necrons get a way to shutdown the psychic phase, I want one for my Tau (and Dark Eldar) too!

Problem is that Tau have no anti-psyker tech. Necrons on the other hand have tons of anti-psyker devices.

Maybe the Tau could be granted some sort of special rule that would give their innate resistance to warp powers gameplay representation, such as giving any Tau unit (but not Kroot, drones or Etherials) an automatic dice for DtW rolls (to which you can add more DtW dice from your pool).

Don't know enough about DE to say what may work for them fluffwise.

Ooeh, I didn't know this was a Tau-thread?
I'm sure they are really scared about all these Deep Striking Psykers, they have nothing against that!

 Galorian wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
All the psy-hate brings me back to my Tau army. Sure, I have an army where no flier is safe but have no way to prevent psy-spam armies from just plunking down whole units every turn.

If Necrons get a way to shutdown the psychic phase, I want one for my Tau (and Dark Eldar) too!

Problem is that Tau have no anti-psyker tech. Necrons on the other hand have tons of anti-psyker devices.

Maybe the Tau could be granted some sort of special rule that would give their innate resistance to warp powers gameplay representation, such as giving any Tau unit (but not Kroot, drones or Etherials) an automatic dice for DtW rolls (to which you can add more DtW dice from your pool).

Don't know enough about DE to say what may work for them fluffwise.

What tons of Anti-Psyker devices are you talking about? Necros have a gloom prism that goes on Spyders that only effects the unit they are in.

Darn it! I saw activity and hoped for some real rumors. We're soooo close.

 docdoom77 wrote:
Darn it! I saw activity and hoped for some real rumors. We're soooo close.

Yea I've been waiting for the rumors to come in too. Hasn't really been much to go on though.

So where the rumors? Just a lot of player chest beating and unit measuring.

Warmonger2757 wrote:

 Galorian wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
All the psy-hate brings me back to my Tau army. Sure, I have an army where no flier is safe but have no way to prevent psy-spam armies from just plunking down whole units every turn.

If Necrons get a way to shutdown the psychic phase, I want one for my Tau (and Dark Eldar) too!

Problem is that Tau have no anti-psyker tech. Necrons on the other hand have tons of anti-psyker devices.

Maybe the Tau could be granted some sort of special rule that would give their innate resistance to warp powers gameplay representation, such as giving any Tau unit (but not Kroot, drones or Etherials) an automatic dice for DtW rolls (to which you can add more DtW dice from your pool).

Don't know enough about DE to say what may work for them fluffwise.

What tons of Anti-Psyker devices are you talking about? Necros have a gloom prism that goes on Spyders that only effects the unit they are in.

He's talking about the numerous bits of necron technology, null field generators being one, that completely nullify psychic powers. To the point that it upsets the fabric of chaos demons beings and generates a void in the warp.

Warmonger2757 wrote:

 Galorian wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
All the psy-hate brings me back to my Tau army. Sure, I have an army where no flier is safe but have no way to prevent psy-spam armies from just plunking down whole units every turn.

If Necrons get a way to shutdown the psychic phase, I want one for my Tau (and Dark Eldar) too!

Problem is that Tau have no anti-psyker tech. Necrons on the other hand have tons of anti-psyker devices.

Maybe the Tau could be granted some sort of special rule that would give their innate resistance to warp powers gameplay representation, such as giving any Tau unit (but not Kroot, drones or Etherials) an automatic dice for DtW rolls (to which you can add more DtW dice from your pool).

Don't know enough about DE to say what may work for them fluffwise.

What tons of Anti-Psyker devices are you talking about? Necros have a gloom prism that goes on Spyders that only effects the unit they are in.

In the fluff they do. It's not that well represented in the 5th ed book.
In fact, the 3rd ed codex did a better job of showing their anti-psy potential.

Necrons may not roll dice or be targeted during the Psychic phase.

Fixed!

So your opponent gets to cast a their buffs without you getting a chance to stop them? I wouldn't call that a fix.

On the birght side, if they do another campaign box, like Stormclaw and Deathstorm, we'll probably get Praetoreans, Doom Blades, and a Triarch Stalker in the box.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

In fact, the 3rd ed codex did a better job of showing their anti-psy potential.

The TruCron fluff wasn't written by a 14 year old stuck in the body of Matt Ward

 BarBoBot wrote:
So your opponent gets to cast a their buffs without you getting a chance to stop them? I wouldn't call that a fix.

I was oversimplifying as sort of a dry humor device.


I would like to see a Campaign box that included Praetorians as long as we see some level of buff or cost reduction.

 adamsouza wrote:
On the birght side, if they do another campaign box, like Stormclaw and Deathstorm, we'll probably get Praetoreans, Doom Blades, and a Triarch Stalker in the box.

Next campaign has been said to be around may and include chaos space marines and dark Angels.

But I really hope praetorians, immortals and tomb blades get buffed as they are some of my favorites from the necron line

 Tokhuah wrote:
Necrons may not roll dice or be targeted during the Psychic phase.

Fixed!

Better yet, any Necron inhibits psychic ability within 48 inches by only allowing success on a roll of a 6 and a perils roll that always has to be taken.


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changemod wrote:

Drakmord wrote:
They would still need some tuning, imo. Would making Psykers run away really do anything for us as a psychic defense?

As someone who ebayed an old Pariah model to paint up and use as an allied Culexus: Absolutely.

Having someone who can shoot twelve high strength armour ignoring shots into a Grey Knight Terminator squad or stroll up to Typhus or a Great Unclean One and kick 'em in the nads so hard they explode is a wonderful counter... And whilst Pariahs would be a lot less extreme, you'd have a whole unit of them.

I use my Pariahs currently as Cryptechs, since couldn't stomach paying for the Finecast version. Hopfully, they will supply us with plastics that have different options with the Necron update.

JuniorRS13 wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
On the birght side, if they do another campaign box, like Stormclaw and Deathstorm, we'll probably get Praetoreans, Doom Blades, and a Triarch Stalker in the box.

Next campaign has been said to be around may and include chaos space marines and dark Angels.

But I really hope praetorians, immortals and tomb blades get buffed as they are some of my favorites from the necron line

Considering CSM and DA are already in Dark Vengeance, and have DV expansion sets, and hard cover codexes, I haven't put much stock in that rumor.

Unless they just want to get rid of a warehouse full of DA and CSM old plastics

I doubt if there is a boxed set that it will not have a Space Marine force in it of some sort. Who knows what it will be. As for the "xenos" half, who really knows. I would have bet my life on the last boxed set being DE or Necrons, but it ended up being Tyranids. I hope they do a boxed set every six months, each time with two different factions. If they redo the Space Marines codex for 7th (highly unlikely anytime soon), they will probably include a few lower selling kits from them in a boxed set. Probably more Tactical Terminators.

The lack of Necrons rumors as of right now isn't that surprising to me. The rumors for Blood Angels really didn't start crystalizing until about two weeks before the codex hit. We should start seeing stuff in a week or so.

It's odd that the mods have left this thread open for so long now, though.
The OP hasn't updated the top post with any of the new info (that came ages ago) and the past however many pages have been nothing but wishlisting and "na-ah, THIS is the most overpowered thing that needs to be nerfed!" spank.

 skoffs wrote:
It's odd that the mods have left this thread open for so long now, though.
The OP hasn't updated the top post with any of the new info (that came ages ago) and the past however many pages have been nothing but wishlisting and "na-ah, THIS is the most overpowered thing that needs to be nerfed!" spank.

GW disinformation has hit this thread hard.

 skoffs wrote:
It's odd that the mods have left this thread open for so long now, though.
The OP hasn't updated the top post with any of the new info (that came ages ago) and the past however many pages have been nothing but wishlisting and "na-ah, THIS is the most overpowered thing that needs to be nerfed!" spank.

At this point in time a thread like this has to exist, so it might as well be this one.

Relapse wrote:

 Tokhuah wrote:
Necrons may not roll dice or be targeted during the Psychic phase.

Fixed!

Better yet, any Necron inhibits psychic ability within 48 inches by only allowing success on a roll of a 6 and a perils roll that always has to be taken.


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changemod wrote:

Drakmord wrote:
They would still need some tuning, imo. Would making Psykers run away really do anything for us as a psychic defense?

As someone who ebayed an old Pariah model to paint up and use as an allied Culexus: Absolutely.

Having someone who can shoot twelve high strength armour ignoring shots into a Grey Knight Terminator squad or stroll up to Typhus or a Great Unclean One and kick 'em in the nads so hard they explode is a wonderful counter... And whilst Pariahs would be a lot less extreme, you'd have a whole unit of them.

I use my Pariahs currently as Cryptechs, since couldn't stomach paying for the Finecast version. Hopfully, they will supply us with plastics that have different options with the Necron update.

I took Crypteks as a conversion opportunity since they all have different wargear, and went a little overboard. I have 27 Crypteks now. Only one uses the official model, and even he has four arms.

 skoffs wrote:
It's odd that the mods have left this thread open for so long now, though.
The OP hasn't updated the top post with any of the new info (that came ages ago) and the past however many pages have been nothing but wishlisting and "na-ah, THIS is the most overpowered thing that needs to be nerfed!" spank.

I find it odd that we seem to know more about the alleged Harlequin codex than we do the Necron codex. Still, I would expect us to be seeing concrete stuff in a week or so.

 skoffs wrote:
It's odd that the mods have left this thread open for so long now, though.
The OP hasn't updated the top post with any of the new info (that came ages ago) and the past however many pages have been nothing but wishlisting and "na-ah, THIS is the most overpowered thing that needs to be nerfed!" spank.

Has there been any new info i missed?

All i've seen is wishlisting in here with nothing new, if there is info that needs to go in the OP let me know the page numbers and will add it.

January 31st Release is the last I heard, which means pre-orders on the 23rd.

Which means it should be in next weeks White Dwarf ?

White Dwarf leaks usually happen about lunch time on the Monday, so confirmation on the 12th ?

 adamsouza wrote:
January 31st Release is the last I heard, which means pre-orders on the 23rd.

Which means it should be in next weeks White Dwarf ?

White Dwarf leaks usually happen about lunch time on the Monday, so confirmation on the 12th ?

I would say the 12th would be a good assumption for some leaks, but who knows.

Not if we have another week for Skaven, right?

There should be two more weeks of Skaven releases and then Necrons.

 Tokhuah wrote:
There should be two more weeks of Skaven releases and then Necrons.

Then who knows- maybe Harlies?