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Warmonger2757 wrote:
Can anyone read the rules on the Mephrit Formation for necrons? I can't make it out.

1-2 HQ, 3-9 troops, 0-3 everything else.

Reroll 1s on Troop Reanimation

Reroll Warlord Trait if using a dynasty specific table.

That's the detachment, not the formation.

The formation is 2 warriors, 2 immortals 1 monolith.

It gives the monolith an ability similar to ghost ark repair that works on the warriors/immortals of the formation, and if targeting warriors its more potent. (2d warriors or d6 immortals if I manage to read right)
Cant read range though...


Anyone managing to read the Angel's Wrath formation units? seems like some combination of vanguard and assaults who must all be in jump packs, but I can't quite read.

 House Griffith wrote:


Guided Drop: This formation must be placed in Deep Strike Reserve. Make a single reserve roll for the entire formation. If successful, all units arrive from the formation. The formation’s unit of vanguard veterans must be placed first, and units of assault marines do not scatter so long as the first model is placed within 6” of the Vanguard Veterans Unit.

Meteoric Impact: Immediately after deploying, any enemy unit within 6” of any unit from this formation suffer a str 4 AP- hit for each of their models which is within 6” of a model from the formation. In addition, these enemy units must move as if they are in difficult terrain until the end of their next turn.

Posting this again for Angel's Wrath Formation. Only thing I can't make out is number of units required (assuming 1x Vanguard vets, 2x Assault squads at minimum)

BoomWolf: you may have been asking the same question about unit SIZE that I was (not rules), but just to be sure I posted the above.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You realize last week they had the rules for Battle of the Five Armies in White Dwarf, right?

With how much they are charging for the Hobbit minis, free rules is the least they can do ( I say free, you still have to buy the WD mag). I see in the preview pics for next week there is a scenario for Smaug. Now I have a reason to pay $500+ for a finecast dragon!...not.

Sorry for the typical Dakka cynicism...I actually love that there will be punch out cards in the next issue.


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 Hulksmash wrote:
That's the one. It was in WD46? I didn't see it when I flipped through it at my FLGS. Oh well. Thanks

Yeah, that's in the WD that came out last week, with the BA assault termies on the front....funny enough, I bought it after hearing the news about the cityfight cards...thinking they would be in that issue. Sadly, I jumped the gun a week early. Don't have much use for this issue.

 Fango wrote:
With how much they are charging for the Hobbit minis, free rules is the least they can do ( I say free, you still have to buy the WD mag)

No, you don't need to buy White Dwarf.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Fango wrote:
With how much they are charging for the Hobbit minis, free rules is the least they can do ( I say free, you still have to buy the WD mag)

No, you don't need to buy White Dwarf.

I stand corrected. It is a nice gesture to provide the rules free of charge. Still, It's not enough to entice me to spend the prices they are asking for these recent Hobbit releases. I am a huge fan of the Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings (The books first, and pretty much anything to do with them)...and I think the models look great. But, justifying those prices on a family of five, single income budget is just impossible. Even at $200, that dragon would be expensive for what it is.

So the Archangel list is actually from the Shield of Baal Exterminatus book but the rest is from the White Dwarf?

Pretre, can you list what the details are of the Stormraven/Tactical squad WD formation are? I have to say I'm a bit impressed with GW actually putting value back into WD with this. I'm also happy about the Archangel list given that I've got an all termie BA army I've been using as Deathwing since the 3rd edition Space Hulk set released. They won't be as good as Deathwing or as customizable but I do like the idea of using them as Blood Angels finally.

Holy crap! That VV/AS formation is downright awesome! Best part? It doesn't us up any of your elite or Fast Attack slots. I was just talking to a guy at my FLGS and said it would he cool in BA would have some sort of attack that went off when they cake in from Deep Strike with a Jump Pack. Could not be happier. Now I need some VV and more Assault Squads! Who needs charge out of Deep Strike when you smash the ground upon landing?

Can anyone read the Angel's Fury Spearhead Force Formation? That picture is waaaaayyyyy too blurry for me. About all I managed to make out was that some part of it gets Objective Secured... I think...

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Holy crap! That VV/AS formation is downright awesome! Best part? It doesn't us up any of your elite or Fast Attack slots. I was just talking to a guy at my FLGS and said it would he cool in BA would have some sort of attack that went off when they cake in from Deep Strike with a Jump Pack. Could not be happier. Now I need some VV and more Assault Squads! Who needs charge out of Deep Strike when you smash the ground upon landing?

have a decent VV loadout in mind?

 BrokenRecord wrote:
Can anyone read the Angel's Fury Spearhead Force Formation? That picture is waaaaayyyyy too blurry for me. About all I managed to make out was that some part of it gets Objective Secured... I think...

I am specialised in reading blur. Here's what I could make of it:

Formation:
X Tactical Squads
X Stormraven Gunships

(can't make out the numbers for sure, sorry. But I think it's 3 of each; the picture also supports that)

Restrictions:
Each Tactical Squad must include 10 models. The Sergeant of each Tactical Squad in this Formation may take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This Formation's Tactical Squads cannot take Dedicated Transports, and must begin the game embarked in the Stormraven Gunships from this Formation.

Special Rules:
Augur Triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood Angels Faction arrives from Deep Strike Reserves within 12" of at least one/two model(s) from this Formation equipped with a teleport homer, then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.

Objective Secured: All Troops units from this Formation have the Objective Secured special rule.

Spearhead Strike Force: When making Reserve Rolls, make a single roll for the entire Formation, which you may choose to re-roll. If successful, all units arrive from this Formation. You can make a Reserve Roll for this formation from the start of Turn 1.

 Redemption wrote:

 BrokenRecord wrote:
Can anyone read the Angel's Fury Spearhead Force Formation? That picture is waaaaayyyyy too blurry for me. About all I managed to make out was that some part of it gets Objective Secured... I think...

I am specialised in reading blur. Here's what I could make of it:

Formation:
X Tactical Squads
X Stormraven Gunships

(can't make out the numbers, sorry)

Restrictions:
Each Tactical Squad must include 10 models. The Sergeant of each Tactical Squad in this Formation make take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This Formation's Tactical Squads cannot take Dedicated Transports, and must begin the game embarked in the Stormraven Gunships from this Formation.

Special Rules:
Augur Triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood Angels Faction arrives from Deep Strike Reserves within 12" of at least one model from this Formation equipped with a teleport homer, then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.

Objective Secured: All Troops units from this Formation have the Objective Secured special rule.

Spearhead Strike Force: When making Reserve Rolls, make a single roll for the entire Formation, which you may choose to re-roll. If successful, all units arrive from this Formation. You can make a Reserve Roll for this formation from the start of Turn 1.

Is that incredible or is it just me? Will that enable assault squads to assault out of deep strike, or just terminators?

Holy crap. If that's right that's amazing.....I forsee assault actually working if that's all true. I might actually bust out my marines again.

 Redemption wrote:

 BrokenRecord wrote:
Can anyone read the Angel's Fury Spearhead Force Formation? That picture is waaaaayyyyy too blurry for me. About all I managed to make out was that some part of it gets Objective Secured... I think...

I am specialised in reading blur. Here's what I could make of it:

Formation:
X Tactical Squads
X Stormraven Gunships

(can't make out the numbers for sure, sorry. But I think it's 3 of each; the picture also supports that)

Restrictions:
Each Tactical Squad must include 10 models. The Sergeant of each Tactical Squad in this Formation make take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This Formation's Tactical Squads cannot take Dedicated Transports, and must begin the game embarked in the Stormraven Gunships from this Formation.

Special Rules:
Augur Triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood Angels Faction arrives from Deep Strike Reserves within 12" of at least one model from this Formation equipped with a teleport homer, then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.

Objective Secured: All Troops units from this Formation have the Objective Secured special rule.

Spearhead Strike Force: When making Reserve Rolls, make a single roll for the entire Formation, which you may choose to re-roll. If successful, all units arrive from this Formation. You can make a Reserve Roll for this formation from the start of Turn 1.

If that is correct, I believe I just figured out the core of my army for larger games!

Well, if it is 3 of each like I think, you're already looking at 1020 points for that formation before any wargear upgrades.

 akwing00 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Holy crap! That VV/AS formation is downright awesome! Best part? It doesn't us up any of your elite or Fast Attack slots. I was just talking to a guy at my FLGS and said it would he cool in BA would have some sort of attack that went off when they cake in from Deep Strike with a Jump Pack. Could not be happier. Now I need some VV and more Assault Squads! Who needs charge out of Deep Strike when you smash the ground upon landing?

have a decent VV loadout in mind?

Not as of yet. But they are just the delivery mechanism for the Assault Squads anyway. Probably keep them pretty cheap.

True, but in this case I'd be tempted to rock a formation based list. You'd also have enough points for the mandatory 2 troops and HQ and still fit in 1-2 solid hitting assault squads.

Upon re-reading it, it could also be 'upon arriving with 12" of at least two models equipped with teleport homers'.

Would make sense seeing as the rule is called Augur Triangulation.

Ugh, all of these formations and detachments are going to give me an headache when I need to put them into Battlescribe.
I'll order a pack of paracetamol with my book >.>

 BoomWolf wrote:
The formation is 2 warriors, 2 immortals 1 monolith.

It gives the monolith an ability similar to ghost ark repair that works on the warriors/immortals of the formation, and if targeting warriors its more potent. (2d warriors or d6 immortals if I manage to read right)
Cant read range though...

If that's the case, that might be worth the 800 points for that formation. Get a couple spiders in another detachment or formation and have them keep the monolith alive, that would be a difficult amount of troops to break. 40 warriors and 20 immortals that get 2D6 and D6 back each turn? Too bad we don't have much of anything with 48" range to put behind that to screen for.

 Redemption wrote:

 BrokenRecord wrote:
Can anyone read the Angel's Fury Spearhead Force Formation? That picture is waaaaayyyyy too blurry for me. About all I managed to make out was that some part of it gets Objective Secured... I think...

I am specialised in reading blur. Here's what I could make of it:

Formation:
X Tactical Squads
X Stormraven Gunships

(can't make out the numbers for sure, sorry. But I think it's 3 of each; the picture also supports that)

Restrictions:
Each Tactical Squad must include 10 models. The Sergeant of each Tactical Squad in this Formation may take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This Formation's Tactical Squads cannot take Dedicated Transports, and must begin the game embarked in the Stormraven Gunships from this Formation.

Special Rules:
Augur Triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood Angels Faction arrives from Deep Strike Reserves within 12" of at least one model from this Formation equipped with a teleport homer, then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.

Objective Secured: All Troops units from this Formation have the Objective Secured special rule.

Spearhead Strike Force: When making Reserve Rolls, make a single roll for the entire Formation, which you may choose to re-roll. If successful, all units arrive from this Formation. You can make a Reserve Roll for this formation from the start of Turn 1.

Wait a Minute Stop the dam press. If this is true this could be the most powerful thing done to 40k of any army currently. Lets take a count here: assault terminators , Terminators, DEATH COMPANY, Sang Guard, Command squad, Dante, have to have the rules for DC dread in pods but omg man this is crazy. in the white Dwarf not a 40 dollar supplement wtf no this has to be false.

Well pods wouldn't work because you would still follow the vehicle rules. That said the rest is pretty awesome if it's true.

Fireraven wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

 BrokenRecord wrote:
Can anyone read the Angel's Fury Spearhead Force Formation? That picture is waaaaayyyyy too blurry for me. About all I managed to make out was that some part of it gets Objective Secured... I think...

I am specialised in reading blur. Here's what I could make of it:

Formation:
X Tactical Squads
X Stormraven Gunships

(can't make out the numbers for sure, sorry. But I think it's 3 of each; the picture also supports that)

Restrictions:
Each Tactical Squad must include 10 models. The Sergeant of each Tactical Squad in this Formation may take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This Formation's Tactical Squads cannot take Dedicated Transports, and must begin the game embarked in the Stormraven Gunships from this Formation.

Special Rules:
Augur Triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood Angels Faction arrives from Deep Strike Reserves within 12" of at least one model from this Formation equipped with a teleport homer, then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.

Objective Secured: All Troops units from this Formation have the Objective Secured special rule.

Spearhead Strike Force: When making Reserve Rolls, make a single roll for the entire Formation, which you may choose to re-roll. If successful, all units arrive from this Formation. You can make a Reserve Roll for this formation from the start of Turn 1.

Wait a Minute Stop the dam press. If this is true this could be the most powerful thing done to 40k of any army currently. Lets take a count here: assault terminators , Terminators, DEATH COMPANY, Sang Guard, Command squad, Dante, have to have the rules for DC dread in pods but omg man this is crazy.

Yep, and here we were all worried that our Codex sucked!

Sounds like a perfect match for Badab Lamenters. Not that you'll squeeze TOO much in after the required units, but still, very nice.

A little disappointed that it isn't Anger Triangulation though. Sigh...

Yes, a little harder to pull off, but still a very cool delivery tech for deep strikers...and also a bit on the pricey side, cash wise...especially the part where each tac squad must be embarked in a Storm Raven.,..I foresee an increase in sales on these expensive, ugly fliers should this turn out to be accurate...even still, I am tempted to build one of these formations myself! ...as a long term goal of course

Couple this Formation with the Angels Wings (?) relic that prevents Interceptor. You'd have to play some Reserve shenanigans to make it work though - as the formation starts in reserve inside the Stormravens.

Ah. Didn't catch that it can come in on turn 1. Dang. Make sure you get Descent of Angels for that re-roll failed Reserves. Did you need another excuse to take Dante?

 Fango wrote:
Yes, a little harder to pull off, but still a very cool delivery tech for deep strikers...and also a bit on the pricey side, cash wise...especially the part where each tac squad must be embarked in a Storm Raven.,..I foresee an increase in sales on these expensive, ugly fliers should this turn out to be accurate...even still, I am tempted to build one of these formations myself! ...as a long term goal of course

Yeah, it's definitely pricey, but looks outrageously powerful, especially for the large, armor-filled games my club tends to play. I can't wait to grab a pile of Stormravens and start blowing the bejesus out of stuff on Turn 1!

As far as looks go; you can always add the Chapterhouse extension kits, or otherwise customize the Stormravens to look less terrible!

 plastictrees wrote:
Sounds like a perfect match for Badab Lamenters. Not that you'll squeeze TOO much in after the required units, but still, very nice.

A little disappointed that it isn't Anger Triangulation though. Sigh...

No my man you get that unit in plain Jane on the cheap I'm hammering out the math right now. looks like maybe 900-1k if you add a few options with priest and Corbulo maybe with a sky shroud landing pad any one? because the formation comes in all at once landing pad allows you to start with a flier on the board in hover. even if this is not allowed you use Corbulo's re roll and get everything in. that is amazing leaving 500-850 points for the hq's and the deep strikers.

 Redemption wrote:

 BrokenRecord wrote:
Can anyone read the Angel's Fury Spearhead Force Formation? That picture is waaaaayyyyy too blurry for me. About all I managed to make out was that some part of it gets Objective Secured... I think...

I am specialised in reading blur. Here's what I could make of it:

Formation:
X Tactical Squads
X Stormraven Gunships

(can't make out the numbers for sure, sorry. But I think it's 3 of each; the picture also supports that)

Restrictions:
Each Tactical Squad must include 10 models. The Sergeant of each Tactical Squad in this Formation may take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This Formation's Tactical Squads cannot take Dedicated Transports, and must begin the game embarked in the Stormraven Gunships from this Formation.

Special Rules:
Augur Triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood Angels Faction arrives from Deep Strike Reserves within 12" of at least one/two model(s) from this Formation equipped with a teleport homer, then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.

Objective Secured: All Troops units from this Formation have the Objective Secured special rule.

Spearhead Strike Force: When making Reserve Rolls, make a single roll for the entire Formation, which you may choose to re-roll. If successful, all units arrive from this Formation. You can make a Reserve Roll for this formation from the start of Turn 1.

That's insane. Expensive, yes, but holy crap. It's also quite thematic. 3 flyers entering the board, while the rest of the army jumps from the skies around them. Talk about decent of angels.