If you could take a single HQ unit to fight off 50 Cultists, who would it be?

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**Deadshot**

Flyrant with 2x TL Devourers wins, because he is not a vehicle and is an HQ (unlike Seth, Bjorn, Pask, etc, who are either LoW or vehicles), but is literally untouchable due to being a FMC, and having about 12 Str 6 shots per turn as
BS4.

12 shots
8 hits
6.6666 wounds
5.5555 unsaved

Roughly 6 cultists dead per turn. Not to mention Vector Strike.

Edit: Actually, it wound be better just to keep flying and shoot than to charge.

**Franko**

I love these sorts of scenarios but only if the enemy has a chance to win as well or there would be no joy in the victory.
I'd put the BA Captain from the Deathstorm boxset into the cultists as he has just enough to make the fight interesting. He'd probably go down but it's the sort of fight i'd try best of three.
May have to give a friend a shout after work and see if he fancies some who would win fights tonight.

**Matt.Kingsley**

ImAGeek wrote:
Poly Ranger wrote:
Warmonger2757 wrote:
necron_warrior_198465 wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
necron_warrior_198465 wrote:
Trazyn The Infinite

First post- Wins thread.

Thanks

Yep you beat me to it. Always wanted to try him against an ork army or IG army just for the look of terror on my opponent's face.

There is absolutely no point in any other character contending for its points. Tryzan is the hands down winner against a cultist blob AS LONG as he's in a squad that takes the hits due to his I2.

Well then he's not the best in this scenario, as you don't have a squad...

I just tried this situation, best case I could get about 40 cultists in B2B or within 2" of a model in B2B with Trazyn.

Assuming the Cultists charged, and the the Champion is able to attack that's 81 attacks.
40.5 hit
6.75 wound
And Traz suffers 2.25 unsaved wounds... ouch

If Traz did survives, he can only attack the champion because the champion must issue a challenge and as he's a lone model he must accept

But that's best case in Melee, and all things considered that's actually not too bad. Typically that many Cultists won't be able to attack him.

Of course, he has to survive 50 autoguns pointed at his face to get to close combat first... sheesh.

EDIT Realised I has messed up my maths... derp.

**e.earnshaw**

If including 30k typhon sweep attack orbital bombardment and a hand flamer.

**RFHolloway**

Tervagon - could your swarm overpower my swarm, should be a decent fight

**gwarsh41**

Any greater daemon, but a GUO with T7 would be best for the cultists being unable to fight back. Black mace DP could be good for the extra attacks though.

5th Ed Blackmane or Canis wolfborn would have been sweet too.

**juraigamer**

Yarrick

In the event they get lucky enough to kill him, he can come right back!

**NauticalKendall**

Bharring wrote:
Even when a WK (or Tide) is your Warlord, he's not an HQ.

Wraithseer, though... Not gonna kill a lot each round, but the Cultists literally cannot hurt it (t8).

The riptide Warlord is infact an HQ, the wraithknight on the other hand is still heavy.

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I'd probably take Drazhar, nothing like cleaving through hordes of guys to remind you you're still bad ass.

**Desubot**

Is this a single unit?

Trollzian the infinite

One smack in close combat they all die. gg wp

**WarbossDakka**

Tank Commander Pask.

**Unit1126PLL**

An Adeptus Mechanicus Archmagos with the Lachrimallus Order, Machinator Array, Abeyance, Cyber-familiar, and other gubbins. That's a basically invulnerable goon (T6, 5+ FNP, 2+/3++ saves, IWND, 4 wounds) with a flamer and Move Through Cover.

He's slow, but MTC means he will eventually catch them, and a Flamer plus five Power Weapon (of whatever sort) attacks standing means he will crush them when he does. Also, he has less than 2% chance of suffering a single wound from any given Cultist attack, and has IWND.

**Cothonian**

Tau Crysis Suit Commander. 2+ Saves, twin burst cannons, jet pack, very powerful in melee.

**Banzaimash**

Mega Armour Ork Warboss with Kombi-Skorcha, Bioniks and Attack Squig

**vipoid**

Banzaimash wrote:
Mega Armour Ork Warboss with Kombi-Skorcha, Bioniks and Attack Squig

No Lucky Stikk?

**Matt.Kingsley**

Looking back at the maths I did for how Traz would hold up worst case in Melee I screwed up and actually worked out the number of saved wounds, not unsaved... derp

so Traz would suffer 2.25 unsaved wounds... not too bad all thing considered. Although that was assuming the Champion was engaged (and therefore Traz would be in a challenge)

As it is unlikely the maximum number of cultists will be engaged Traz typically has a good chance of winning melee, of course surviving the Autoguns aimed at his face is less likely, he'd most likely never make it to melee assuming there's no LOS blocking terrain... Though as the OP says cityfight terrain there's likely to be a lot of LOS blocking terrain.

Traz has a way better chance than I originally thought as long as he stays out of the cultist's LOS until he can charge in...

**Unit1126PLL**

Here's the maths for the Archmagos's survivability.

Outside of 12": 50 Autogun shots - 25 hits, 4.1666 wounds, .69 wounds after armor, then .46 wounds past FNP.

Inside of 12": 100 Autogun shots - double everything. .92 wounds.

Assault without Cultists charging: 52 attacks - 26 hits, 4.33 wounds, .72 wounds after armor, .48 wounds after FNP.

Assault with Cultists charging: 102 attacks - 56 hits, 9.33 wounds, 1.5 wounds after armor, 1.0 wounds after FNP.

So the Archmagos is likely to survive the whole game, adding in IWND and remembering he has 4 wounds.

Additionally, with a template weapon, it is unlikely that all 50 Cultists would survive to the assault phase.

**jhe90**

Its a cheat but vulkan 30k rules.
Grenade template attacks, insane armour and immune probbly to every attack, t7, 6 wounds, high armour save + invunrable save. Nothing getting past that.
Next to immune to plasma weapons.

**kingbobbito**

CrownAxe wrote:
Great Unclean One. At T7 none of the S3 attacks from the cultists will hurt it

I was going to do the same but with a wraithseer, T8.

Alternately, I'd go with a good librarian, maybe Ezekiel from DA, spam psychic shrieks or maybe some pyromancy.

**Desubot**

Well actually if it is 1 unit then a single terrify might just send them off the board

**kingbobbito**

NauticalKendall wrote:
The riptide Warlord is infact an HQ, the wraithknight on the other hand is still heavy.

Do you have to take farsight to be able to take one of his bodyguards (the riptide)? And I was under the impression that it didn't take up a slot, so not an HQ.

**Jayden63**

I like the chances of a tooled up Wolf Lord on thunderwolf. It would be a very interesting fight.

**Poly Ranger**

Got it! Can we pick powers?
If so - BA librarian (may as well be mephy), with fear of darkness. Very likely chance that the cultist blob will disappear in just one roll (well 2 if you also consider passing the psychic test).

**CREEEEEEEEED**

Crisis suit commander with nueroweb system jammer, and watch the ones roll in

but just to be sure I d take iridium armour stim injectors shield gen a flamer and a burst cannon.

**Desubot**

CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Crisis suit commander with nueroweb system jammer, and watch the ones roll in

but just to be sure I d take iridium armour stim injectors shield gen a flamer and a burst cannon.

Why shield gen? they wont have anything past autoguns.

Iridium armor, Stims, 2x burst cannons, two gundrones.

**CREEEEEEEEED**

Desubot wrote:
CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Crisis suit commander with nueroweb system jammer, and watch the ones roll in

but just to be sure I d take iridium armour stim injectors shield gen a flamer and a burst cannon.

Why shield gen? they wont have anything past autoguns.

Iridium armor, Stims, 2x burst cannons, two gundrones.

Oh yeah, then I'd take another burst cannon, and 2 gun drones.

**skolirvarden**

Chapter master with storm bolter, teeth of terra and jetpack.

It's not the killiest of combinations, but I think it would make for some fun in this instance.

**ChocletEyeOfTerror**

Marbo.
They would be dead before they would know it.

**Da krimson barun**

Can I use a HQ from my new fandex?(its codex:Grots)the unit is....a single grot.

**40KNobz11**

Ork Warboss...

Mega armour, lucky stick, powerclaw, etc etc

**Reinokarite**

I suggest Sammael on Sableclaw.

If cultist have mark of Khorne and Icon of Wrath they are actually have descent chance of killing him in cc unless he will move smartly.