BaalSNAFU wrote:
Sidstyler wrote:Yeah, crazy. It's almost as if you were better off with the old book. It's almost as if that 7th edition update that everyone was
demanding of
GW didn't automatically vault
BA into top-tier like everyone expected.
Would it have mattered, though? I remember you once saying that it was too late for an update anyway because you had already eBay'd your stuff (several thousand points worth at that), and that it didn't matter if
BA were "the most overpowered army ever", you still wouldn't play them anyway since
GW made you wait so long. So if Seth
wasn't flaccid then it would still mean exactly feth all.
And for what it's worth I don't like the
BA codex, either, so I'm not defending it.
Care to find the post where I said that or are you content to let your imagination do the talking for you?
Well, I'd rather not, but let's see...
Oh, hold on a minute:
No doubt. But even if we get a god tier dex that makes eldar cry, with pulitzer prize quality fluff, that wont be sufficient for me to forgive GW for making me wait almost 3 f*cking years before I could actually enjoy my $800 worth of BA stuff. I mean I had some good times when we still had out powers, but even that was an uphill battle because I was usually handicapped between 200-400 points per game.
Okay, "three fething years"? I know I've probably said it before but I'll say it again, if you seriously think
BA got the short stick with the wait time between codex updates then you literally haven't been paying attention to
any army other than Blood Angels, because several of them have waited two or even three times as long on average between updates. For Tau and Eldar it was 5 and 6 years respectively, if I'm not mistaken, so an argument could be made that they too "really fething deserved" updates but all anyone does is gak on them both for it. Necrons waited like 9 years I think and are still running with a 5th edition book. Dark Eldar waited
12 years, I believe, before finally getting a 5th edition update and after four more years on top of that got updated for 7th. Sisters are still waiting but apparently no one cares about Sisters because they aren't a Marine army. Orks I think have been waiting something like 6-7 years between updates. And most of them skip entire editions, too; Tyranids are the only xenos race to get updated every edition, and I think it could be argued that isn't necessarily a good thing either when you look at the sorry state they've been in from the 5th edition book onward.
It wasn't even three years, either, it was four. Blood Angels came out in April of 2010 I think, same year that the big Dark Eldar update came. Even then, that's still on the lower side, as most other non-Marine armies wait 5+ years. And technically you still got yours earlier than expected, all rumors were pointing towards January as a possible release but it was a surprise December release instead, even though
GW typically doesn't do
40k releases in December.
...but yeah, that's pretty far off-topic I guess and not really relevant to much of anything anymore. It just bothers me seeing all the "
WE HAD
TO WAIT SO LOOOONG!" comments from a Marine player when, in reality, you guys have no idea what it is to wait.
Anyway, I have to apologize then because I guess you didn't actually say anything about putting your
BA on eBay in the "Did
GW shelve
BA?" thread, though I swear to god I thought you did. Maybe that was someone else then.
Oh, there's more:
feth GW in their greedy asses with a morningstar mace. They made us wait two fething editions to have our codex, already the worst by a mile, nerfed. Ill keep an eye out for a cool supplement, but as of now there is no way in hell Ill EVER drop money on.another GW product. Not.finishong my Necrons. Not picking up planned steel legion to back upy CF.
.hey just lost a 16 year long customer with this inexcusable bs.
-BaalSNAFU out.
Okay, so you didn't say you were going to eBay all your stuff...but you still rage-quit the game and said
GW had lost a 16-year customer after telling them to feth off.
Technically I'm still wrong and apparently imagined the eBay thing, but considering the end result was kind of the same anyway...doesn't the original point still kinda stand? Okay, so let's say Seth is the ultimate badass he's "supposed" to be, does that alone make up for the rest of the codex being garbage? At least enough to convince you to come back and give
GW lots more of your money?
Probably not.
The more leaks I read, the more I hate this POS I've waited 3 years for. Seth is a LoW, yes, but his weapon is AP FETHING 4! On top of that whirlwind of gore if +1A for every 6 rolled to hit. Its like they took everything I loved about playing Wards BAs and said "that's gotta go". feth GW so hard.
Well, that does kinda make sense, if you think about it.
GW has been watching people rage about Mat Ward ever since the 5th edition Space Marine codex dropped back in...2008? So like six years. Whether it's rules or fluff or simply naming conventions for weapons and wargear, people keep constantly bashing Ward for one or the other, so much so that he kinda became a meme. At the same time,
GW has been watching their sales steadily drop, and launching a new edition for their most popular game and updating all their most popular lines still isn't enough to make a difference. Also, Ward isn't with the company anymore,
IIRC.
I can personally see them blaming the dwindling sales on Ward and his influence on the game, sacking him for all the damage he caused, and then hastily trying to undo everything thinking that might bring everyone back. Is that too crazy? Eh, whatever.
Thank you for the thread. It breaks my heart but I'm done with BA. Silver lining, you did save me $50. Ravenguard here I come.
...so are you actually done with
40k then, or...
I'm curious. Are there any other codexes that force multiple CADs on you for you to fit your desired units into their slots? Outside of spam that is.
You say spam, I say theme. And I don'teven own Dante so no, I never played with him. But thx for reminding me. Another themed list invalidated. Dante and his golden boys.
But oh, boo right. That was just spamming Sanguinary guard...
Keep drinking the kool-aid, it must taste good. Not any less toxic, though chief.
Oh, I get it. It's spam when
other armies do it, like with wave serpents and dire avengers, or riptides/battlesuits, but it's "theme" when a Marine army does it.
For what it's worth I agree with you, I like spam. I think it looks just fine on the table and feels a lot more "realistic" to me than the random assortment of whatever units you feel like taking that other people try to champion as "the only true way to play
40k". But at least have the Baals to admit that it's spam and don't pretend like taking the same thing over and over in a
BA list is somehow different or more "pure" than doing the
same exact gak with Eldar, Tau, etc. Saim Hann Eldar is a theme. Battlesuit-heavy or Farsight Tau is a theme. An army of Imperial Knights is also a theme. And so on.
Anyway, I think I'm done with that, I honestly don't even know what I'm doing anymore,
lol. But yeah, like I said, I do apparently owe you an apology.
As for the topic at hand;
BA don't get generic chapter masters because
GW wanted the
BA book to be trash. That's pretty much the only real explanation you're going to get for it. Either that or
GW didn't want you taking choices that they didn't have official models for, which is why you can have generic librarians, priests, chaplains, captains...literally everything
but chapter masters. There's no "chapter master" model they can sell you.
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