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Mass S4 shooting (10+ Marines on rapid fire) will bring the Solitaire down in one turn, so you better hide him until he can Blitz, or that's 145 points down the drain.

Mymearan wrote:
Mass S4 shooting (10+ Marines on rapid fire) will bring the Solitaire down in one turn

Worse, he could try to assault a 4-flamers squad .

Rules are cool, but why they need to change the rule for the harlequin kiss? rending was not enough?
I don't have the WD with the new Tyranid units, but how the new Harlie troupe works in codex Eldar? the old unit will be removed from the codex and I have to use the dataslate or both units (and both harlie kiss version) will co-exist?

I just realized that a Prescience'd troupe of Caress-equipped Harlies will tear upp pretty much anything. Now I just hope to god the transport will be open-topped... but I'm guessing it'll be a Venom variant, so that would be a yes.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, Trinity. That's what I was thinking as well.

So do we think the Starweaver is something new, or a conversion of an existing vehicle (Falcon or Venom hull)?

The old epic WS is nice - as long as its not another Cheese Serpent in terms of rules...... a Venom style craft would also be quite cool ..........look forward to seeing what they do

Well these look real nice. My only complaint about the sculpts is the overuse of 'tip-toeing on a shard object' -gimmick. Old Harlequins had some pretty silly poses, but there was bit more variation. These are like Witch Elves or Wild Riders - when everyone is on their toes leaping, it gets bit tiresome.

During the Eldar rumor stage I seem to recall someone stating that there was a standard infantry sized "Avatar". I was not around for the original Harlequin army, but I keep hearing that their HQ was called an Avatar also. Is it possible that the "Avatar" model that was mentioned then will be part of the Harlequin release now?


I was thinking of removing my Solitaire from the ruin bit, and repositioning him with his open hand on the ruin as he jumps over it.

 megatrons2nd wrote:
During the Eldar rumor stage I seem to recall someone stating that there was a standard infantry sized "Avatar". I was not around for the original Harlequin army, but I keep hearing that their HQ was called an Avatar also. Is it possible that the "Avatar" model that was mentioned then will be part of the Harlequin release now?

That's what I'm hoping!!!!

 godswildcard wrote:

 megatrons2nd wrote:
During the Eldar rumor stage I seem to recall someone stating that there was a standard infantry sized "Avatar". I was not around for the original Harlequin army, but I keep hearing that their HQ was called an Avatar also. Is it possible that the "Avatar" model that was mentioned then will be part of the Harlequin release now?

That's what I'm hoping!!!!

The original Harlequins had the following units

High Avatar
High Warlocks
Warlocks
Avatar (basically Troupe leaders)
Troupers
Death Jesters

Marvellous.

The organisation of an Harlequin force in 1st edition looked like this:

(Chart from Warhammer 40,000 Compendium/WD - the image: Lexicanum.com)

Today the High Avatar would be an HQ choice and something like a better Troupe Leader. We know the Solitaire is Elite, the Troupe is Troops, so even if DJ and SSeer would be HQ, there is a good chance GW will release an 'Army Leader' miniature like the High Avatars and High Warlocks of old. Their miniatures, although the names got changed a few times in the catalogues, did exist and they looked like their 'role'.

Regarding the other units, Skyweavers are, if the original source from Darnok is right again, the Jetbike unit, and the Starweaver, after sleeping a night over it, sounds more like a flyer as was pointed out 2 pages earlier. Both CWE and DE flyers (including the FW ones) have a similiar esthetic and therefore flyers using a mix of these styles wouldn't look out of place in both armies. It is also quite similiar to the Space Wolves flyer, providing both a Transport and a Support unit with heavier armament.

That troupe master's pose is awful, god damn. It's like they tried to copy the previous sculpt but failed utterly in every aspect.

Everything else looks great, though.

Hm, these guys look pretty grimdark. I wonder if there are options for laughing masks.
Kind of obvious rsponse, but why so serious?

 Fayric wrote:
Hm, these guys look pretty grimdark. I wonder if there are options for laughing masks.
Kind of obvious rsponse, but why so serious?

I'd imagine every single person who buys this box makes a Joker and Harley Quinn with them. EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. Literally.

Except those two people who will post to try to prove me wrong.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Hm, these guys look pretty grimdark. I wonder if there are options for laughing masks.
Kind of obvious rsponse, but why so serious?

I'd imagine every single person who buys this box makes a Joker and Harley Quinn with them. EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. Literally.

Except those two people who will post to try to prove me wrong.

See, I was thinking about trying to make these guys like the classic medieval harlequins of old.

Joker idea is funny though.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

I'd imagine every single person who buys this box makes a Joker and Harley Quinn with them. EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. Literally.

Hell, that's the reason I'll buy a box if I do. And you can bet the Solitaire will be getting a purple jacket/cape!

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Hm, these guys look pretty grimdark. I wonder if there are options for laughing masks.
Kind of obvious rsponse, but why so serious?

I'd imagine every single person who buys this box makes a Joker and Harley Quinn with them. EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. Literally.

Except those two people who will post to try to prove me wrong.

It going to be that or the Royal Flush Gang. Or both. It helps that purple and red look great in diamond patterns.


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Seperately. As in purple/black and red/black. Purple/red would be a mess.

Note the interaction between the Harlequin's Caress and Precision Strikes on the Solitaire. On a 6 to hit, it is an auto wound at AP2 and you can pick the target in the opposing unit. He's an assassin!

I wonder if the diamond pattern is just painted on or sculpted on...?

I like some of the poses, but some of them seem a bit awkward, particularly the Troupe Master... if I get them, I can see myself spending some time reposing here and there. The Troupe Master needs his right leg straightening out a bit and more point/arch to the foot.
The Solitaire's nice though.

Is it me, or are the feet and hands on these guys bigger than usual?

The diamonds 'flowing' off the back of the Solitaire is, according to the White Dwarf, an optional part.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The diamonds 'flowing' off the back of the Solitaire is, according to the White Dwarf, an optional part.

Diamonds? At the first look I thought these are cards...

 Kanluwen wrote:
The diamonds 'flowing' off the back of the Solitaire is, according to the White Dwarf, an optional part.

Depicting their force field?

 whembly wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The diamonds 'flowing' off the back of the Solitaire is, according to the White Dwarf, an optional part.

Depicting their force field?

If by force field, you mean holo-field then yes.

 whembly wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The diamonds 'flowing' off the back of the Solitaire is, according to the White Dwarf, an optional part.

Depicting their force field?

...depictign that someone's been playing Borderlands before doing their sculpting work.

Don't much care for those masks. I may just use DE masks instead.

I suspect that the masks could do with a hell of a lot more shadow on the paintjob, that would give them more kick and make them look a bit more sinister

It isn't that. The goblinesque design just looks silly to me. I understand the aesthetic and why GW is doing it, I just don't care for it.

If the kit doesn't have one of these as an option I'll be disappointed, the most sinister thing to ever feature on kids TV in the UK, and kids TV in the UK has had some dark moments!

Are they still getting a new jetbike?

Hrhr yes. Like Tripods