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 whembly wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Big lack of AP2 though. They really want them to rely on Kiss of Death.

Each trouper can be armed with fusion/neuro gun. How may AP2 do you really need?

All of it?

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What's with all of this concussive stuff. Do we even need it? I mean our initiative rating for our army is stupid good.

Nice to see veil of tears back and better then ever

Fearless doesn't stop those maledictions. Just pinning.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
What's with all of this concussive stuff. Do we even need it? I mean our initiative rating for our army is stupid good.

I'm not certain, but I suspect that it's for use in those corner cases like Lelith or Genestealers where Initiative becomes an issue. With only 5++, Harlequins are super dependent upon killing the bulk of whatever they hit on their first strike. When things get a chance to hit back, our squads will tend to melt. EDIT: Nevermind, still doesn't make a whole ton of sense. :\ Sorry!

TheHarrower from the Ded'ard Blog has collected all pages from the codex ibook preview. There is also a .pdf file

A few examples


From http://dedard.blogspot.com/2015/02/harlequins-compiled-pdf-preview.html via Faeit

Aaand there's my new desktop. An awesome piece of artwork!

And on a side note, those powers are awesome, as are the relics. Shadowseer conversions coming up ASAP, I feel...

Warhams-77 wrote:
TheHarrower from the Ded'ard Blog has collected all the art from the book preview. There is also a .pdf file

A few examples

Spoiler:

Faccken saved!


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 whembly wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Big lack of AP2 though. They really want them to rely on Kiss of Death.

Each trouper can be armed with fusion/neuro gun. How may AP2 do you really need?

Why even think about Fusion Pistol, when you have fresh Neuro Distruptor - AP2, FLESHBANE, 12 inches instead of 6, and 5 points cheaper !

Two of these guns per Troupe are now my autoinclude - hitting on 3s, wounding on 2s, and world is beautiful place once again.

Two more pics added

Mirror of Minds + Mask of Secrets = Slay the Warlord. I really want to see the stats on the Shadowseer now. Obviously they're at least ML 2, which I assumed wouldn't happen seeing as you can take 6. So now I'm wondering if they're LD 8 or not (like warlocks). Cause this combo with a LD 9/10 model could very easily get you StW on just about any target.

Initial pass on other items: Cegorach's Rose very easily goes on your Solitaire. Starmist Raiment....why? Storied sword is about 15 points to expensive for what it does. Crescendo-amazing on Solitaire (who can't take it), but at 5 pts why not. Laughing God's Eye, nice. A bit pricey, but nice.

Shrieker ammo- still meh after 7 editions. Don't see what in that profile is so amazing it couldn't have been 2 shots. Will seldom be used, except low armor/toughness horde models.

Psychic powers are mixed bag. Dance of shadows, Veil of Tears, Fog of Dreams obviously good. Laugh of Sorrows and Mirror minds are ok, excepting that they're WC2. Peal and Shards are pretty meh, but being WC 1 not Death Mission bad.

Will be interesting to see how the Shadowseer and Death Jester make out in terms of stats (specifically LD of Shadowseer) and unit comp. I think the implication from earlier leaks is DJ's at one per slot, but a unit of 3 in a starweaver could lay out a lot of dakka.

That reverse invisibility spell is going to be a pain on some armies. Great counter to an invisible death star.

My death star is invisible !

Well now everything is invisible to it lol

 Doomaflatchi wrote:
Yes. Yes, yes, and YES!!! That all looks freaking amazing. Webway Walker in particular made me jump up and pump my fist.

 Asmodas wrote:
More first impressions - lots of ways to mess with Ld. Lower it with the Mask relic, then use pinning weapons or Shadowseer abilities to debuff enemies, disallow overwatch, etc.

Great in theory, and it's neat to see it included, but remember that almost two-thirds of the armies in the game are completely immune to it through Fearless, ATSKNF, or similar. Dark Eldar ran into the same problem.

ATSKNF ignores those abilities if the ability says it does. I didn't see that rule mentioned at all in the leaks, so they are not immune.

Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:

 Doomaflatchi wrote:
Yes. Yes, yes, and YES!!! That all looks freaking amazing. Webway Walker in particular made me jump up and pump my fist.

 Asmodas wrote:
More first impressions - lots of ways to mess with Ld. Lower it with the Mask relic, then use pinning weapons or Shadowseer abilities to debuff enemies, disallow overwatch, etc.

Great in theory, and it's neat to see it included, but remember that almost two-thirds of the armies in the game are completely immune to it through Fearless, ATSKNF, or similar. Dark Eldar ran into the same problem.

ATSKNF ignores those abilities if the ability says it does. I didn't see that rule mentioned at all in the leaks, so they are not immune.

Good point! I guess I just saw 'LD abilities', and my brain just went "Well, that's great but..." and missed the details. Thanks for the catch!

Anyone see the ship date for the non-models is March 7th

Only in the US - because of strikes

Warhams-77 wrote:
Only in the US - because of strikes

That...is pretty nonsense.

 Dakkafang Dreggrim wrote:
That reverse invisibility spell is going to be a pain on some armies. Great counter to an invisible death star.

My death star is invisible !

Well now everything is invisible to it lol

Unless the shadowseer is ML3 I don't see it being a thing. 4+ to dispel pretty much ruins it working against any of the main deathstars like Tiggys Centstar or the mini screamerstars.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Big lack of AP2 though. They really want them to rely on Kiss of Death.

Each trouper can be armed with fusion/neuro gun. How may AP2 do you really need?

All of it?

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What's with all of this concussive stuff. Do we even need it? I mean our initiative rating for our army is stupid good.

Nice to see veil of tears back and better then ever

Concussive = pretty much guaranteed Hit & Run

I'm really struggling with that $205 price tag.

I can afford it, but can I justify it? Getting everything separately (sans objective tokens) would be $110

Just can't quite take the leap yet!

 godswildcard wrote:
I'm really struggling with that $205 price tag.

I can afford it, but can I justify it? Getting everything separately (sans objective tokens) would be $110

Just can't quite take the leap yet!

Well they seem to be going quick. UK sold out already.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Only in the US - because of strikes

Oh don't worry for me on the UK store its saying "Availability: Pre-order product that will ship on 09-Feb-2016" so at least you will get it before us!

Seriously hope that its just a typo seeing as I've pre-ordered the book!

the dice and the datacards are still available in the US right now. First time I've seen that go this long...

And the reason for the delay in the US is due to a dockworker strike on the west coast. Hurrah, let's screw up shipping for the entire country!

 Schlyne wrote:
the dice and the datacards are still available in the US right now. First time I've seen that go this long...

And the reason for the delay in the US is due to a dockworker strike on the west coast. Hurrah, let's screw up shipping for the entire country!

Is there a notice from the dubs that it will be delayed?

Otherwise they usually send out a voucher for like 50 bucks IIRC.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Only in the US - because of strikes

That...is pretty nonsense.

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?53168-US-West-Coast-Port-Labor-strikes-causing-delay-in-US-Harlequin-releases

Stiyx wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Only in the US - because of strikes

Oh don't worry for me on the UK store its saying "Availability: Pre-order product that will ship on 09-Feb-2016" so at least you will get it before us!

Seriously hope that its just a typo seeing as I've pre-ordered the book!

Nope. No typo on the US page. The books are presumably coming from China where they're printed and there's a strike at West Coast shipping ports in the US holding things up.

Laugh of Sorrows is the most beautiful power I've seen since 2nd edition Executioner.

Guess it's time to finally use some psykers again.

Warhams-77 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Only in the US - because of strikes

That...is pretty nonsense.

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?53168-US-West-Coast-Port-Labor-strikes-causing-delay-in-US-Harlequin-releases

I can read just fine, Warhams.

Just saying that it is quite nonsense.

Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in.

I absolutely love the options and ways they are able to play.

Is it just me, or is the Bio-Explosive ability a bit...dumb. You take casualties from the front, so you lose the entire front half of the Blast template for extra wounds. Then as a small blast, you already have to get it to scatter to hit more than a couple of models anyway, if you are lucky or your opponent doesn't spread out a lot. Or somebody actually deepstruck in it's line of sight.

Ace Rimmer wrote:

 MrFlutterPie wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Big lack of AP2 though. They really want them to rely on Kiss of Death.

Each trouper can be armed with fusion/neuro gun. How may AP2 do you really need?

All of it?

---

What's with all of this concussive stuff. Do we even need it? I mean our initiative rating for our army is stupid good.

Nice to see veil of tears back and better then ever

Concussive = pretty much guaranteed Hit & Run

I'm not sure how this works. Hit and Run is an initiative test based on the Harlequins initiative value. The enemies squad's initiative value doesn't matter. Unless I am missing something?

Warhams-77 wrote:
Only in the US - because of strikes

Lock outs.

there's a difference.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/02/11/ports-lockout-response-to-slowdown/23264011/

Harequinns could be very strong with Eldar/Dark Eldar. With all the leadership negatives and leveraging other combos such as Torment grenade launchers could be really nasty.