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I'm wondering how long until they martyr this one as well:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/officer-kills-armed-18-year-old-near-ferguson/ar-BBhaJGD?ocid=mailsignout


BERKELEY, Mo. (AP) — Violent protests broke out in suburban St. Louis after another black 18-year-old was fatally shot by a white police officer.

St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said the officer was questioning the 18-year-old and another man about a theft late Tuesday at a convenience store in Berkeley when the young man pulled a 9mm handgun on him. The officer stumbled backward but fired three shots, one of which struck the victim, Belmar said.

Berkeley is just a few miles from Ferguson, Missouri, where a white police officer fatally shot Michael Brown, an unarmed black 18-year-old, on Aug. 9. Brown's death sparked weeks of sometimes violent demonstrations and a grand jury's decision to not charge Officer Darren Wilson in the shooting has spurred a nationwide movement to protest police brutality.

Belmar declined to name the 18-year-old killed in Berkeley, but a woman at the scene told reporters she was his mother and identified him as Antonio Martin. Belmar said he was 18 years old and black.

The 34-year-old white police officer, a six-year veteran of the Berkeley Police Department, is on administrative leave pending an investigation, Belmar said.

"He will carry the weight of this for the rest of his life, certainly for the rest of his career," Belmar said. "So there are no winners here."

Police released surveillance video from the parking lot outside the store. The nearly two-minute clip shows two young men leaving the store at about the time a police car rolls up. The officer gets out and speaks with them. About a minute-and-a-half later, the video appears to show one of the men raising his arm, though what he is holding is difficult to see because they were several feet from the camera. Belmar said it was a 9mm handgun.

The other man ran away, and police are searching for him.

It was the third fatal shooting of a black suspect by a white police officer in the St. Louis area since Brown was killed. Kajaime Powell, 25, was killed Aug. 9 after approaching St. Louis officers with a knife. Vonderrit Myers Jr., 18, was fatally shot Oct. 8 after allegedly shooting at a St. Louis officer.

Each shooting has been met by protests, and a crowd quickly gathered late Tuesday and early Wednesday in Berkeley. The demonstration involving up to 300 people turned violent.

More than 50 police officers, some in riot gear, responded. Video showed some wrestling with protesters. Belmar said officers used pepper spray but not tear gas. Four people were arrested on charges of assaulting officers.

Belmar said three explosive devices, possibly fireworks, were tossed near gas pumps. Some protesters threw rocks and bricks. One officer was hit by a brick and treated for facial cuts. Another was treated for a leg injury sustained as he tried to get away from one of the explosives.

The protest spilled to a neighboring convenience store where a man in a hoodie set a fire inside the store. The fire was quickly put out, but the glass door was shattered.

Orlando Brown, 36, of nearby St. Charles was among the protesters.

"I understand police officers have a job and have an obligation to go home to their families at the end of the night," he said. "But do you have to treat every situation with lethal force? ... It's not a racial issue, or black or white. It's wrong or right."

Brown said he was pepper-sprayed during the protest and that his friend was arrested for failing to disperse.

Toni Martin, Antonio Martin's mother, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that her son was with his girlfriend at the time of the shooting. The video did not appear to show a female with the two young men.

Belmar said the 18-year-old had a considerable criminal record in the less than two years since he turned 17, with three assault charges, armed robbery, armed criminal action and unlawful use of a weapon.

The chief said some protesters questioned why the officer couldn't use pepper spray or a stun gun.

"Frankly, that's unreasonable," Belmar said. "When we had somebody pointing a gun at a police officer, there's not a lot of time."

Berkeley has body cameras and dashboard cameras. The officer wasn't wearing his body camera, Belmar said. The dashboard camera activates when the red lights are on, and they were not on at the convenience store.

Belmar said the body of the young man remained on the scene for about two hours. After Brown died in August, the fact that his body remained on the street for more than four hours drew widespread criticism. Belmar said two hours is fairly typical as police gather evidence, and he said interference from protesters may have prolonged the situation in Berkeley.




I love how the guy pulls a gun on the cop and people are asking to know why the cop couldn't just respond with pepper spray, wtf?




Edit:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fatal-cop-shooting-teen-berkeley-missouri-sparks-clashes-n274181

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Well, obviously the guy with the gun didn't feel safe with the gun at his house, so he went out looking for someone he could turn it in to. He saw the police officer, tried to turn it in, but the nasty officer saw a black guy walking around on the streets and executed him, because that's just what police officers do. That's the only possible explanation.

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I will laugh my butt off if he was being questioned over stealing swisher sweets, they must be the most precious commodity in the hood if people are getting shot over them. Apparently convenience stores and gas stations are cop laden death traps waiting to spring on anyone who'd try steal some cheap and terrible smokes.

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Don't point guns at cops, stupid.


Edit: The protestors are possibly even stupider than the "victim". Stop rioting over perceived racial injustice. Someone needs to tally up all the instances in 2014 where a white guy met the same fate, and throw it in their faces.

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I remember my Roommate said "I have seen cops with batns, riot gear, they are safe, they dont fear for their lifes ever. People should be afraid of cops"
He then said they should use tasers
I also just want a peaceful campus where I can ride on the streets. I swear, If they block the streets over this there, im riding my scooter straight into it

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Probably work

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

I also just want a peaceful campus where I can ride on the streets. I swear, If they block the streets over this there, im riding my scooter straight into it

While I understand the sentiment, I really doubt that barreling into a racially charged irrational mob at 10 mph is the wisest thing to when you're a lone white guy.

Might make for an entertaining news story though.

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 daedalus wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:

I also just want a peaceful campus where I can ride on the streets. I swear, If they block the streets over this there, im riding my scooter straight into it

While I understand the sentiment, I really doubt that barreling into a racially charged irrational mob at 10 mph is the wisest thing to when you're a lone white guy.

Might make for an entertaining news story though.

I have a 400 and the MPH on campus is 50.

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Wait

video here on Yahoo.
http://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-missouri-shot-killed-man-pulled-gun-084531706.html

Dumb Arses are using IED's it seems

http://news.yahoo.com/violent-crowd-sets-off-explosives--throws-bricks-after-police-shoots-and-kills-18-year-old-in-missouri-153730065.html

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Bets on how long it is before we see a picture of the guy at age 10, and hear about how he was going into college or the military?
   
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Probably work

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

I have a 400 and the MPH on campus is 50.


Oh.. for some reason, I was picturing:



...carry on then.

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man... that's even closer to me that Ferguson.

I drive that road every day to work.

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Are they using explosives at a gas station!? I obviously think that rioting and this stuff is stupid, and while I don't normally call for people to die.... I hope Darwin shows up with some awards in hand
   
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 whembly wrote:
man... that's even closer to me that Ferguson.

I drive that road every day to work.

Oh....Its not the berkely near me.
Thank god.

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I remember the time I drove into a gas station and a guy by the pumps was lighting his arm on fire for the amusement of three women.

I left quickly.
   
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Probably work

Relapse wrote:
I remember the time I drove into a gas station and a guy by the pumps was lighting his arm on fire for the amusement of three women.

I left quickly.


Was that in Missouri? Cause like, I'd believe it.

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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:



Are they using explosives at a gas station!? I obviously think that rioting and this stuff is stupid, and while I don't normally call for people to die.... I hope Darwin shows up with some awards in hand





nails, length of 100 mph tape, and fire works. Cheap frag

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 daedalus wrote:
Relapse wrote:
I remember the time I drove into a gas station and a guy by the pumps was lighting his arm on fire for the amusement of three women.

I left quickly.


Was that in Missouri? Cause like, I'd believe it.


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Craaaap... the Quicktrip accross the street form this was looted.

EDITED: swear word snuck through

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 whembly wrote:
Craaaap... the Quicktrip accross the street form this was looted.

EDITED: swear word snuck through


The protests against police violence have begun early, it seems.
   
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We need to equip LEO with IOTV's and ACH if this keeps up

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If he really pointed a gun at the policer officer, then shooting him was fully justified and the perfectly correct choice.

   
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 Sigvatr wrote:
If he really pointed a gun at the policer officer, then shooting him was fully justified and the perfectly correct choice.


Last few seconds of the video I posted from youtube you can see him draw and point his weapon at the LEO.

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Or maybe invest in better, multi-shot, long range tasers/other non-lethal incapacitating weapons as a front line, first choice weapon to arm police with?

You know, so police don't kill so many people?

   
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 Jihadin wrote:
Last few seconds of the video I posted from youtube you can see him draw and point his weapon at the LEO.



Clearly none of that matters cause he's black and police brutality and stuff!

Cop defends himself against an armed scumbag with a record, cue the rioting!
   
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 SilverMK2 wrote:
Or maybe invest in better, multi-shot, long range tasers/other non-lethal incapacitating weapons as a front line, first choice weapon to arm police with?

You know, so police don't kill so many people?

Tasers are the worse thing to have when someone else is pointing a gun at you...

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 whembly wrote:

Tasers are the worse thing to have when someone else is pointing a gun at you...


Something muscle spasm inducing is bad when someone is trying to point a gun at you?

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My fault. Wrong video mention
here we go


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According to the local police chief... they have “videos from other angles that shows the shooting” but are not releasing it “out of respect for Martin’s family.”

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its on Youtube already

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