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 agnosto wrote:
Great, now you've scared him off and I'm not going to get an answer about Ogres. *sad panda*

And I'll never find out what kind of pie that is...

Harry, beyond the "vehicles are all walkers" thing, any details you can share to help us color in this picture?

It's unfortunate Harry is no longer here to chat about the AdMech. I am really excited about this rumor. Some nice plastic skitari models would be amazing.

Ahhh, I missed Harry

Oh well, super pumped that this is going to be happening! I can always, always use more dark mechanicus!!!!

From BoLS. Take with salt until more is known.

from Harry:
-In No Particular Order-
Adeptus Mechanicus Codex & models (full release)

via Lords of War Gaming:
- April/May
– It’s Admech, but there will be two codices.
- Tanks will be walkers.

From the Birds in the Trees:
The Paper Products
– Codex:Adeptus Mechachanicus Skitarii
– Heraldry/Hobby book
– Ad Mech Datacards (contains no psychic power cards)
The Miniatures
– Ad Mech Skitarii box
– Ad Mech Myrmidon box
– Energy weapon platform/ transport box (combo-kit)
– Legio Cybernetica Colossus/Conqueror box (combo kit)
– Magos Clampack
– Secutor Clampack

wait.... plastic Myrmidons? Didn't forgeworld only put them out like a year ago?

The plastic ones would have to look alot diffrent if true....


And who is Birds in the Trees? I don't recognize this person as a established rumormonger.

 Lockark wrote:
wait.... plastic Myrmidons? Didn't forgeworld only put them out like a year ago?

The plastic ones would have to look alot diffrent if true....

Quite true, or at least with different weapons.

 Lockark wrote:
And who is Birds in the Trees? I don't recognize this person as a established rumormonger.

It's an anonymous source, like Darnok's birdies or my references to Tyranids.

Will be interesting to see what goes on and the pricing hopefully i wont have to sacrafic a fetus to afford it

Also thanks wonderwolf, thanks alot mate good work!

 Lockark wrote:
wait.... plastic Myrmidons? Didn't forgeworld only put them out like a year ago?

No. They Thallax models, not Myrmidons.

 Breotan wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
wait.... plastic Myrmidons? Didn't forgeworld only put them out like a year ago?

No. They Thallax models, not Myrmidons.

Not quite:

Myrmidon Destructors


Myrmidon Secutors

So yeah, Mymidons do have FW models that are fairly recent overall.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Quite true, or at least with different weapons.

Diffrent weapons or not the astetic would have to be very diffrent from the established forgeworld ones. It's been a long time since we got stuff like the trygon, baneblade, and Valkire that straight up replaced the old forgeworld models.

The new plastic hydra flakk tank has a distintive look that's diffrent from the forgeworld hydra. (Thow sadly I looks like the old hydra's aren't being sold by forgeworld anymore. To bad because I liked the look for the forgeworld ones alot more.)

 ClockworkZion wrote:

It's an anonymous source, like Darnok's birdies or my references to Tyranids.

sssooooooooo..... It's the source bell of lost souls normally get their rumors from?

I also just noticed in the list a "Legio Cybernetica Colossus/Conqueror box". As far as I am aware in the current fluff the Legio Cybernetica don't exist in 40k. They were disbanded after the heresy when the Mechanicum became the Adeptus Mechanicus. Thows who didn't give up their robot loveing ways fled to the eye of terror with the dark Mechanicum.

If loyalist Legio Cybernetica in 40k is true, that would mean expect some retcons.

 Lockark wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Quite true, or at least with different weapons.

Diffrent weapons or not the astetic would have to be very diffrent from the established forgeworld ones. It's been a long time since we got stuff like the trygon, baneblade, and Valkire that straight up replaced the old forgeworld models.

The new plastic hydra flakk tank has a distintive look that's diffrent from the forgeworld hydra. (Thow sadly I looks like the old hydra's aren't being sold by forgeworld anymore. To bad because I liked the look for the forgeworld ones alot more.)

 ClockworkZion wrote:

It's an anonymous source, like Darnok's birdies or my references to Tyranids.

sssooooooooo..... It's the source bell of lost souls normally get their rumors from?

I also just noticed in the list a "Legio Cybernetica Colossus/Conqueror box". As far as I am aware in the current fluff the Legio Cybernetica don't exist in 40k. They were disbanded after the heresy when the Mechanicum became the Adeptus Mechanicus. The surviving members of the order fled to the eye of terror with the dark Mechanicum.

If true, that would mean a retcon.

It could be any number of sources BoLS has. It's really not something that we could know for sure unless they came out and said it.

And yes, the models would need something to separate themselves from the Mechanicum stuff, but I don't think it'll need a lot, just weapons as that's the biggest difference between 30k and 40k for the Mechanicum vs Mechanicus.


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Also, it's possible old fluff may be changed. We'll have to wait and see what actually comes out, or what a more solid source has to say on it.

Well. No.

It's Bell of Lost soul's rumour now. Just because they want to now attribute their rumours for a clean slate doesn't mean it's not their rumour. Sources or not, they are the ones who broke it so it's their baby now.

edit: I'm not putting a huge ammount of faith in the bird rumors to begin with since they say a codex and a heraldry book. Lords of War gaming said two codexs, not two books. Now realizeing that these are BOLS rumors, I can't help but think they are just a educated guess/speculation based off what we now know thanks to the amazing harry, Hastings and Lords of War gaming.

 Lockark wrote:
Well. No.

It's Bell of Lost soul's rumour now. Just because they want to now attribute their rumours for a clean slate doesn't mean it's not their rumour. Sources or not, they are the ones who broke it so it's their baby now.

That's not what I said or what was asked. They asked if it was BoLS usual source and I was explaining there was no way to know unless BoLS said. No one disputed who gets the blame if it fails to pan out.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
Well. No.

It's Bell of Lost soul's rumour now. Just because they want to now attribute their rumours for a clean slate doesn't mean it's not their rumour. Sources or not, they are the ones who broke it so it's their baby now.

That's not what I said or what was asked. They asked if it was BoLS usual source and I was explaining there was no way to know unless BoLS said. No one disputed who gets the blame if it fails to pan out.

Or who get's the credit if it's true......

I just want to know who is saying the rumour, but it feels like you are skirting the issue because of your own feelings about sources and who get's the rep good or bad. It's BOLS posting what they have gotten from then own sources. So it's a BOLS rumour.

I thought Birds in the Trees might of been a user from their message board, since they were reposting other people's rumours in that quote.

You have to remember that FW's are 30k mechanicum and not 40k era Adeptus Mechanicus. Even if the names are the same there is no guarantee that the units will be all that similar. Just look at the "Secutor" unlike the FW ones, the GW one appears to be more in the way of character seeing as its clam packed.

 Lockark wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
Well. No.

It's Bell of Lost soul's rumour now. Just because they want to now attribute their rumours for a clean slate doesn't mean it's not their rumour. Sources or not, they are the ones who broke it so it's their baby now.

That's not what I said or what was asked. They asked if it was BoLS usual source and I was explaining there was no way to know unless BoLS said. No one disputed who gets the blame if it fails to pan out.

Or who get's the credit if it's true......

I just want to know who is saying the rumour, but it feels like you are skirting the issue because of your own feelings about sources and who get's the rep good or bad. It's BOLS posting what they have gotten from then own sources. So it's a BOLS rumour.

I thought Birds in the Trees might of been a user from their message board, since they were reposting other people's rumours in that quote.

I clearly stated it was an Anon source and as such it was impossible to know if it was the same source they've had for other rumors or a new one. This wasn't skirting but a clear, and honest, explanation.

I hope the person writing this book understands that Skitarii is the plural, and we don't see "Skitariis" in any sentence anywhere.

Yes I'm finicky about these things.

 aka_mythos wrote:
You have to remember that FW's are 30k mechanicum and not 40k era Adeptus Mechanicus. Even if the names are the same there is no guarantee that the units will be all that similar. Just look at the "Secutor" unlike the FW ones, the GW one appears to be more in the way of character seeing as its clam packed.

True. I guess just being such a huge fan of the HH novels and everything forgeworld has put out for the Mechanicum, seeing the same names and implied retconing of minor plot points makes me abit anxious for what GW is going to do with the Mechanicus.

That and I realy liked the idea of the imperial robots only being a great crusade/horus heresy thing. It just really plays into the idea of lost knowledge that to me is a core of what makes the 40k dark ages in space lore so good. It is also something that to me defined the Dark Mechanicus. They kept that knowledge but have twisted it to the purpose of building deamon engines. At least that's how I always understood it when writing campaigns for the 40k RPG's.


Sorry for the ramble. In the end I just don't want to be disapointing lol. As long any retcons still make for good stories, and the models look cool I can't complain to much.

It's reasonable to believe for as much difference as there is between 30k Legions and 40k Chapters, there should be as much difference between 30k mechanicum and 40k Adeptus Mechanicus.The Mechanicus probably have lost some tech, found some tech, and possibly created some tech over the 10,000 years. It is a narrative I'm looking forward to hearing. FW has been successful in showing through units and weapons the way mechanicum was hoarding the fancier bits of tech for itself, I think the success from a rules stand point hangs on whether they can bring that same sense to the 40k era.

 Breotan wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
wait.... plastic Myrmidons? Didn't forgeworld only put them out like a year ago?

No. They Thallax models, not Myrmidons.

Not the Thallax models, the Myrmadon Secutors and Destructors.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope the person writing this book understands that Skitarii is the plural, and we don't see "Skitariis" in any sentence anywhere.

Yes I'm finicky about these things.

Like Fish and Sheep, the plural of Skitarii is Skitarii

So thats the 11th faction for imperials. Seriously soon muhreens-with-blue-armor will only be fighting muhreens-with-spider-legs or muhreens-with-capes... the least they could do is make admech BB with chaos forces as a separate dark mechanicus...WITH some legion rules.

Getting salty here...

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Like Fish and Sheep, the plural of Skitarii is Skitarii

And LEGO. The plural of LEGO is LEGO.



NOT, repeat, not LEGO'S! Get it right people.

Ad Mech might push me to finally get that warhound titan!

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Like Fish and Sheep, the plural of Skitarii is Skitarii

Nope.

Skitarii is the plural. Skitarius is the singular.

 Lockark wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
You have to remember that FW's are 30k mechanicum and not 40k era Adeptus Mechanicus. Even if the names are the same there is no guarantee that the units will be all that similar. Just look at the "Secutor" unlike the FW ones, the GW one appears to be more in the way of character seeing as its clam packed.

True. I guess just being such a huge fan of the HH novels and everything forgeworld has put out for the Mechanicum, seeing the same names and implied retconing of minor plot points makes me abit anxious for what GW is going to do with the Mechanicus.

That and I realy liked the idea of the imperial robots only being a great crusade/horus heresy thing. It just really plays into the idea of lost knowledge that to me is a core of what makes the 40k dark ages in space lore so good. It is also something that to me defined the Dark Mechanicus. They kept that knowledge but have twisted it to the purpose of building deamon engines. At least that's how I always understood it when writing campaigns for the 40k RPG's.


Sorry for the ramble. In the end I just don't want to be disapointing lol. As long any retcons still make for good stories, and the models look cool I can't complain to much.

Honestly there are two retcons I would be happy with; getting rid of/explaining away the bullgak "lulz C'tan dun it" Dragon-on-Mars rubbish, and allowing a reduced-in-numbers-and-tech version of the Legio Cybernetica in 40K. It never made sense to me that the Cybernetica would be, uniquely, totally purged from existence after the Heresy, nor that they would be literally the only organisation in the galaxy to side 100% entirely with the Traitors - losing stuff like Paragon of Metal and the fancier weaponry? Sure. But completely gone? Meh, I have no issues with that changing.

Of course, knowing my luck, the robot rumour is a dud and the new 'dex will have fluff that basically states outright "Yo Mechanicus, you're budget-Necrons now, yeah? Cools".

 Snrub wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Like Fish and Sheep, the plural of Skitarii is Skitarii

And LEGO. The plural of LEGO is LEGO.



NOT, repeat, not LEGO'S! Get it right people.

But I love LEGOs.

Also an apostrophe is possessive so of course that's not a plural.

 Snrub wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Like Fish and Sheep, the plural of Skitarii is Skitarii

And LEGO. The plural of LEGO is LEGO.



NOT, repeat, not LEGO'S! Get it right people.

 BrookM wrote:

 Snrub wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Like Fish and Sheep, the plural of Skitarii is Skitarii

And LEGO. The plural of LEGO is LEGO.



NOT, repeat, not LEGO'S! Get it right people.

Well you're obviously a heretical mutant with eyes like that.

The topic here?

Find it, quick!

Thanks!