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I'm very disappointed with these, they've just taken the techpriest route like every admech modeller ever. I'd much prefer the admech we see in Titanicus.

Wasn't convinced at first, but these new pics certainly put these guys on the list... A small detachment at first, but at prices that are somewhat reasonable and a lot of scratch-build/conversion potential, possibly much, much more.

 Desubot wrote:

 ultimentra wrote:
Is it time for a tactics thread already since we have a lot of the rules in front of us? I am honestly confused about the Arquebus as well, it seems to me that the Arc Rifle and getting in close is the obvious choice.

Missing that one rule the rangers have.

Probably way early for tactics.

All of them have the rule and we don't know what it is yet. Maybe next week?

 Yodhrin wrote:
OK, I'm moving back from "Meh" to "DEFCON Cautious Optimism" based purely on the newer walker kit

I find it extremely hard to believe that there won't be some Magos or Techpriest clampack however I'm sure that stranger things have happened.

JWBS wrote:
I'm very disappointed with these, they've just taken the techpriest route like every admech modeller ever. I'd much prefer the admech we see in Titanicus.

GW hasn't touched the stuff in the BL novels since back when they used some fluff from Eisenhorn for the Witch Hunters codex.

I'm strangely in love with the weird chicken walkers, I had been on the fence and the ugly sentinel/defiler hybrid was pushing me to a firm no, but those chicken walkers sold me on the idea.

migooo wrote:
I find it extremely hard to believe that there won't be some Magos or Techpriest clampack however I'm sure that stranger things have happened.

If the rumors hold true, there will probably be HQs in the full AdMech book in the future, along with other troops and robots. This is just a release for the Skitarii.

Requizen wrote:

migooo wrote:
I find it extremely hard to believe that there won't be some Magos or Techpriest clampack however I'm sure that stranger things have happened.

If the rumors hold true, there will probably be HQs in the full AdMech book in the future, along with other troops and robots. This is just a release for the Skitarii.

Doesn't rule out a possible HQ. I mean Tau have Fireblades after all.

Requizen wrote:

migooo wrote:
I find it extremely hard to believe that there won't be some Magos or Techpriest clampack however I'm sure that stranger things have happened.

If the rumors hold true, there will probably be HQs in the full AdMech book in the future, along with other troops and robots. This is just a release for the Skitarii.

How far in the future are we talking?

Kinda get the feeling this is a scouting, recon force for the main release. And the crazier heavy support and elites are coming in the next codex.

 edlowe wrote:
Kinda get the feeling this is a scouting, recon force for the main release. And the crazier heavy support and elites are coming in the next codex.

So it's like how we had Codex: Militarum Tempestus and then a bit later had Codex: Astra Militarum? I'll just wait for the full codex then thank you. I've learnt my lesson from MT.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 edlowe wrote:
Kinda get the feeling this is a scouting, recon force for the main release. And the crazier heavy support and elites are coming in the next codex.

So it's like how we had Codex: Militarum Tempestus and then a bit later had Codex: Astra Militarum? I'll just wait for the full codex then thank you. I've learnt my lesson from MT.

To be fair, MT didn't have 60" rifles with Armourbane...

I'm also hoping this isn't a limited release codex, before the main book. I could do with plenty of time to save up for my spending spree

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 edlowe wrote:
Kinda get the feeling this is a scouting, recon force for the main release. And the crazier heavy support and elites are coming in the next codex.

So it's like how we had Codex: Militarum Tempestus and then a bit later had Codex: Astra Militarum? I'll just wait for the full codex then thank you. I've learnt my lesson from MT.

To be fair, MT didn't have 60" rifles with Armourbane...

Only S3 vs tanks though. Average is a 10.

Cognis Lascannon (and it's BS2 Snapshots/Overwatch) looks to be the better anti-heavy armor.

Now that's more fething like it. Ironstrider is BOSS.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 edlowe wrote:
Kinda get the feeling this is a scouting, recon force for the main release. And the crazier heavy support and elites are coming in the next codex.

So it's like how we had Codex: Militarum Tempestus and then a bit later had Codex: Astra Militarum? I'll just wait for the full codex then thank you. I've learnt my lesson from MT.

To be fair, MT didn't have 60" rifles with Armourbane...

Not that they are any good needing 10s 11s and 12s to do anything to vehicles. And having used a ranger army back in 3rd ed that isn't going to be very often and when it does happen it is wasteful.

Loving these models. Late 19th century Imperial Germany enslaved to a machine god? Sign me up.

It's like they looked at PP and said "that's cute, now allow us to grim dark all over you."

 Ravenous D wrote:


Not that they are any good needing 10s 11s and 12s to do anything to vehicles. And having used a ranger army back in 3rd ed that isn't going to be very often and when it does happen it is wasteful.

At 60" range. With 2 of them in a 5-man unit with a FNP, all for probably under 100 pts?

That's a pretty neat backfield objective camper annoying Rhinos and other stuff from across the board.

Looking closer at the rules, these guys strike me as half way between IG Vets and Tau Fire Warriors, slightly tougher than the former but not as shooty (before weapon upgrades) as the latter. The 30" S4 AP4 guns and 4+ armour with FNP 6+ put them in a nice niche of durability and shootiness that nothing else directly competes with; I think these guys are actually going to have a pretty distinct playstyle, which is good.

Sniper is S4 against vehicles, actually. So an average glance on light vehicles and lower potential to hurt any variety.

Anyone else wondering where the Dunestalker is? I mean people have the WD but all we've seen is that one tiny image, and nothing else.

And no unit has it listed as a DT either. :/


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changemod wrote:
Sniper is S4 against vehicles, actually. So an average glance on light vehicles and lower potential to hurt any variety.

Must be mixing up my editions again. Either way I'd be using Sniper on MCs and High Toughness units (or just to pick out someone else's flamers, meltas and banners) over using it on tanks.

Only sniper I think is worth using on Tanks is the Vindicate because of Turbo-pen and his ignores cover rule.

Oh wow. Those skitarri are really nice looking.

This pretty much sums up the walker.... and GW claims everything they create is original and they don't draw inspiration from anyone...

SWEET BASIL CHRIST THEY ARE FETHING AWESOME!

Ahem...

Honestly, they are sweet.

There helmets almost look Sabbat like, feeling optimistic for SoB fans in the future.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Anyone else wondering where the Dunestalker is? I mean people have the WD but all we've seen is that one tiny image, and nothing else.

And no unit has it listed as a DT either. :/

Could be a codex leak perhaps? Surely whoever had enough time access to take a great photo of all 4 unit entries and the weapons page would not have missed the dunestalker.

I'm guessing it's from a different source.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
This pretty much sums up the walker.... and GW claims everything they create is original and they don't draw inspiration from anyone...

Only like the fourth person to come up with that connection.

I'm thinking it's a lot more likely to be a servitor than Mr. Garrison.


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 Hive City Dweller wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Anyone else wondering where the Dunestalker is? I mean people have the WD but all we've seen is that one tiny image, and nothing else.

And no unit has it listed as a DT either. :/

Could be a codex leak perhaps? Surely whoever had enough time access to take a great photo of all 4 unit entries and the weapons page would not have missed the dunestalker.

I'm guessing it's from a different source.

The codex leaking earlier than the WD? Now that would be interesting.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Anyone else wondering where the Dunestalker is? I mean people have the WD but all we've seen is that one tiny image, and nothing else.

And no unit has it listed as a DT either. :/

The only thing like the term "Dunestalker" we've seen is the rule on the walkers called "Dunestrider".

changemod wrote:
Sniper is S4 against vehicles, actually. So an average glance on light vehicles and lower potential to hurt any variety.

Must be mixing up my editions again. Either way I'd be using Sniper on MCs and High Toughness units (or just to pick out someone else's flamers, meltas and banners) over using it on tanks.

Only sniper I think is worth using on Tanks is the Vindicate because of Turbo-pen and his ignores cover rule.

Give the unit an Omnispex and the unit is forcing a -1 on Cover Saves.

Plus we don't know what the special rule "Doctrina Imperative" does; I'm kind of thinking it's going to be something akin to the Orders system.

And remember that in a unit of Rangers, the entire unit has Precision Shots as well.

The new pics are sweet. Zany as they should be. Also all that archeotech gear!

 Hive City Dweller wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Anyone else wondering where the Dunestalker is? I mean people have the WD but all we've seen is that one tiny image, and nothing else.

And no unit has it listed as a DT either. :/

Could be a codex leak perhaps? Surely whoever had enough time access to take a great photo of all 4 unit entries and the weapons page would not have missed the dunestalker.

I'm guessing it's from a different source.

Dune stalker was a Special rule no?