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Requizen wrote:

migooo wrote:

Lamech wrote:
As i can read on page 28 on the new WD:
They say, that with the Doctrina-Imperative you are going to be like a Tech-Priest, commanding your army from above.
Knowing so far that we have seen 6 diffrent model and waiting for one more (the spider walker).
I going to ask my self, will we see a HQ Ad Mech, if the player is going to be a Tech-Priest useing Doctrina-Imperative through the noosphare?

Whelp that's kinda sad I really wanted a HQ. And considering the guy in the middle of the blueprint looks like the leader of the stalkers.


It's disappointing as a "leader " figure would be so cool, but then again when was the last army without a clampack.

If there's not one in Skitarii, there for sure will be one in AdMech. I can't really imagine a world in which a "full army codex" doesn't have at least one unit in every single slot. It hasn't been that way since, what, 3rd ed Necrons?

People are using the Harlies as a measuring stick, that and the recent scan of the Doctrines. I'm swinging against the idea we will get a HQ.

migooo wrote:

Requizen wrote:

migooo wrote:

Lamech wrote:
As i can read on page 28 on the new WD:
They say, that with the Doctrina-Imperative you are going to be like a Tech-Priest, commanding your army from above.
Knowing so far that we have seen 6 diffrent model and waiting for one more (the spider walker).
I going to ask my self, will we see a HQ Ad Mech, if the player is going to be a Tech-Priest useing Doctrina-Imperative through the noosphare?

Whelp that's kinda sad I really wanted a HQ. And considering the guy in the middle of the blueprint looks like the leader of the stalkers.


It's disappointing as a "leader " figure would be so cool, but then again when was the last army without a clampack.

If there's not one in Skitarii, there for sure will be one in AdMech. I can't really imagine a world in which a "full army codex" doesn't have at least one unit in every single slot. It hasn't been that way since, what, 3rd ed Necrons?

People are using the Harlies as a measuring stick, that and the recent scan of the Doctrines. I'm swinging against the idea we will get a HQ.

I'm thinking:

Skitarii = Harlequins
AdMech = Eldar

Skitarii might not have it, but then again, it's a mini-codex. AdMech is supposed to be the "full army". I would be highly flabbergasted if they released a true Codex that couldn't run a Combined Arms Detachment.

 Desubot wrote:
They it sounds like they get outflank and acute sense in that formation which is nice

i wonder what else is in that text wall below it.

me too
i tried my best
but i can't resize the text, where i can read it
Damn GW

Definitely getting two boxes of Rangers, three Ironstriders, and at least one of the Infiltrators.. we'll see what happens after that.

Also, english weapon rules here:

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?54502-Whitedwarf-62-Sicarian-Review

drbored wrote:
Definitely getting two boxes of Rangers, three Ironstriders, and at least one of the Infiltrators.. we'll see what happens after that.

Also, english weapon rules here:

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?54502-Whitedwarf-62-Sicarian-Review

Am I missing something with the walkers, they seem very weak?

The combat ones are actually pretty good. The shooty ones less so. I'm pretty sure the 6 I'm getting are going to be one large squad of CC ones but I'll probably magnetize so I can run the gunners too

I think the Walkers are pretty solid. They are super cheap and have rules that deal directly with one of the two weaknesses of walkers. Their Dunestrider rule makes them pretty good skirmish units IMO.

Oh, the Pistol is Shred and not Rend.... not nearly as good.

Ok so its the assault ones that are good and the shooty ones are bad ok, the assault seemed decent though there price tag is painful at $300.

That's the rub. It is not a cheap unit at all. But I think it'll look really cool with my Admech Knights

I wonder if there will be 30k rules for any of the new admech or at least a footnote that says how it can be included in age of darkness battles.

Yeah, cheap points wise, not dollar wise.

Wow those Infiltrators/Stalkers have a load of Haywire! Skitarii are clearly the kings of Haywire at the moment.

The CC ones look like the best version for sure

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
The CC ones look like the best version for sure

Ill probably get a unit of each

Interesting models, I this is way more in line with what people expected AdMech units to look like. I like them, though the infiltrators are posed really awkwardly, as if they're contorting their bodies to change directions mid-run.

The ruststalkers look amazing though! I really hope they are viable as I would love to have these guys charging forward while the rangers sit back and shoot. This release has officially become worthy of investment to me at this point.

Also, loving the bone white color scheme!

 RedFox wrote:
I love those infiltrators, looks like a R2-D2 head on a C-3PO body, weird stuff

Yeah, I thought that having dome-headed guys with tasers was an amusing design decision from a company that is totally not influenced by anything else out there in the world...


Loving these guys, though.

 warboss wrote:
So are these sicarans still human cyborgs with just more massive than even admech normal replacement or something more artificial?

With the AdMech, there's not much of a distinction. Everything has its root in an organic mind, however.

This site has totally clear pictures without glare:

http://chaoticacloaquis.canalblog.com/archives/2015/03/31/31809104.html

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
The CC ones look like the best version for sure

I dunno.. 5+ snap shots twin-linked with Precision Shots... That's pretty nasty...

I think the shooty ones will become necessary to snipe out plasma guns and sarges to make sure that the Sicarians can stay alive.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
This site has totally clear pictures without glare:

http://chaoticacloaquis.canalblog.com/archives/2015/03/31/31809104.html

this totally clear picture where taken from here http://www.gamestrust.de/bilder,list1199,1,warhammer-40-000-adeptus-mechanicus.html
and there is much more...

Yea I am not sure what the Sicarians are supposed to be killing, they have too few attacks to charge into swarms, and aren't strong enough in close combat to hit MEQ with any effectiveness. They wound T4 on a 5+, not good odds even with an AP2 weapon in the second round. You'll lose the first round of combat because you won't cause any wounds...

I guess it will all depend on Doctrina Imperatives. We'll at least start to get codex leaks next week, maybe we'll finally find out what the imperatives are.

 ultimentra wrote:
Yea I am not sure what the Sicarians are supposed to be killing, they have too few attacks to charge into swarms, and aren't strong enough in close combat to hit MEQ with any effectiveness. They wound T4 on a 5+, not good odds even with an AP2 weapon in the second round. You'll lose the first round of combat because you won't cause any wounds...

I guess it will all depend on Doctrina Imperatives. We'll at least start to get codex leaks next week, maybe we'll finally find out what the imperatives are.

Aren't they S4 with furious charge and tasers? St7 on charge?
I may be confused with the other units.

This site has totally clear pictures without glare:

http://chaoticacloaquis.canalblog.com/archives/2015/03/31/31809104.html

Those poses are woeful imo. The guy on the left looks likes hes dancing, the middle guys legs are way too far apart and the guy on the right looks like hes fallen asleep.
I really hope you can pose them more realistically or dynamically.

From BoLS' forum but given a rehosted on imgur:

Thanks for the rehost!

I did some quick testing with the Ruststalkers against a 10 man marine squad. I did 5 rounds, and the marines all died on either the first or second turn. The ones that did survive the first turn (21 Str5 attacks with auto wound on 6s to hit, AND AP2 on 6s to wound) quickly died the second turn when the AP2 on all attacks kicked in. The fleshbane attacks from those claws really helped to. Got some more 6s from those to get more AP2.

The average wounds the Stalkers took was around 2-3, so atleast one stalker died every time.

This was all without any special weapons, or any upgrades bought (since we don't know about them all). Doctrina Imperatives could possibly make them even better in CC, or give other nice bonuses.

That said, I am impressed with the first impressions. Against a 5 man termie squad with Power Fists they got wrecked hard though. Managed to kill maybe 2 terminators, but since they are only T3 they die real fast against power fists, and instant death won't help the 2 wounds or the FnP.. 6++ isn't that great either. Maybe saved one of them during the 5 rounds against the termies.

What a gakky picture, the edges are missing! But at least there's no glare I suppose.

 Swara wrote:

 ultimentra wrote:
Yea I am not sure what the Sicarians are supposed to be killing, they have too few attacks to charge into swarms, and aren't strong enough in close combat to hit MEQ with any effectiveness. They wound T4 on a 5+, not good odds even with an AP2 weapon in the second round. You'll lose the first round of combat because you won't cause any wounds...

I guess it will all depend on Doctrina Imperatives. We'll at least start to get codex leaks next week, maybe we'll finally find out what the imperatives are.

Aren't they S4 with furious charge and tasers? St7 on charge?
I may be confused with the other units.

they are S4 with furious charge
and if they use Transsonic sword they will get +1S
first round D2 on a 6

if they use Transsonic knife they will have still S4
first round D2 on a 6

 Hulksmash wrote:
I just can't wait for this. Current shopping list:

Datacard
Codex
5xBoxes of Skitarii
6xDragoons
3xBoxes of Sicarians

And I'll probably be adding a tank walker thing or two to this.....

Dude... pro-tip, but I have been kit-bashing for two days and those Dust Wildfire/Honey Walkers plus Dragoon/Ballestieri bits really go a long way to saving a pile of money. I should have pics soon, but you can save a fortune with just a little green-stuff. ;-)

By the end of the week i'll have eight Walkers having only spent about $180 (including the cost of the two actual GW Ad-Mech Walker kits)

drbored wrote:
AUGH SO COOL.

Wallet: Et tu, GW?

Ok so I was thinking, sure, these things are T3, their biggest weakness is going to be the mass of plasma and melta that we see across different armies...

Or you know, autocannons. Str7 Ap4 is gonna get a lot of use against these guys.
Or assault cannons
Or HMP
Or lots of things out there that neuter T3 4+ 2W.

These guys are very fragile.