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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 02:31:34
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Lords of Wargaming has been on record saying that there is this mini book and a full-sized codex coming. Plus, you know, the whole "Adeptus Mechanicus" section on the GW site and not "Skitarri".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 02:58:00
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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lord_blackfang wrote: streetsamurai wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:I'm getting a bit tired of everything in this army getting 1-2 unique rules that do the same or similar to an existing USR.
It's the opposite for me. I really like that army has some unique special rules. Help to differenciate them
How does it differentiate them if they're the same?
Taser = Tesla
Tesla isn't a USR, and if they had just called it tesla people would be complaining about them having a Necron-only rule.
Neural Trauma = Poison (4+)
If they had just used poison a lot of people would be wondering why the hell a grenade that uses bio-electricity is poisonous and complaining about it.
Transonic = Rending + AP2 on all attacks after the first round
Except not really; the only similarity is that they both are AP2 on a To Wound of a 6. Transonic only auto-wounds on a To Hit of a 6 (making it worse than Rending in the first round).
Sure, I suppose they could have just said it Rends, but then they'd need a separate rule to give it AP2 on every round afterwards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 03:25:17
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Matt.Kingsley wrote: lord_blackfang wrote: streetsamurai wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:I'm getting a bit tired of everything in this army getting 1-2 unique rules that do the same or similar to an existing USR.
It's the opposite for me. I really like that army has some unique special rules. Help to differenciate them
How does it differentiate them if they're the same?
Taser = Tesla
Tesla isn't a USR, and if they had just called it tesla people would be complaining about them having a Necron-only rule.
Not to mention Tesla does 2 extra wounds, but Taser does 2 wounds total. And Tesla weapons have no AP value, but Taser weapons have an AP value instead.
Matt.Kingsley wrote:Neural Trauma = Poison (4+)
If they had just used poison a lot of people would be wondering why the hell a grenade that uses bio-electricity is poisonous and complaining about it.
Not to mention if the model being hit with it is resistant to poison it's not resistant to Neural Trauma (unless they are resistant to being wounded on a fixed number).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 04:00:17
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Fresh-Faced New User
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If one wanted a shooty army that complemented what Skitarii bring to the table and wanted it to be effective in the lower point spectrum, who should they ally Skitarii with (with $$$ also playing a factor)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 04:03:56
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dmorktry wrote:If one wanted a shooty army that complemented what Skitarii bring to the table and wanted it to be effective in the lower point spectrum, who should they ally Skitarii with (with $$$ also playing a factor)
I'd say Space Marines. SM will give you some survivability in armor saves that the Skitarii just don't have, plus have plenty of good shooting options themselves. Tac squads being your basic troop, plus Sternguard, Centurions, and Thunderfire Cannons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 04:07:02
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Dmorktry wrote:If one wanted a shooty army that complemented what Skitarii bring to the table and wanted it to be effective in the lower point spectrum, who should they ally Skitarii with (with $$$ also playing a factor)
well given Skitarii are an army of the Imperium, they're proably best allied with other IoM armies honestly, Skitarii are argueably the best gunline infantry the IoM has, where they lack is in durable assault and heavy vehicles. as you specified shooting, I'd go with Imperial guard as they have lots of armor. you could go with a command squad and vetern squads and then load up on lemen russes
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 04:22:14
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Sold. Totally.
Mind you, mine will probably be Squat Forgelords rather than mechanicus, if i can get my Convert on...
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 04:33:40
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Why give the Onager three different AA weapons?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 04:40:44
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Nasty Nob
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Why not? A walker can fire any number of weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 05:00:02
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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... and bear some of the most esoteric and destructive tank-portable weaponry the Tech-Priests can devise.
Twin-Linked Autocannon. Heavy Stubber. And let's not forget the Stub Rifle on the Mech-Assassin guys. Just screams "archeotech" to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 05:15:33
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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H.B.M.C. wrote:... and bear some of the most esoteric and destructive tank-portable weaponry the Tech-Priests can devise.
Twin-Linked Autocannon.
Heavy Stubber.
And let's not forget the Stub Rifle on the Mech-Assassin guys.
Just screams "archeotech" to me.
it also can have a tank sized "conversion beamer" and a neutron laser. I dunno about neutron lasers (perhaps they're all over the place in the fiction or something) but conversion beamers are considered some pretty rare and esoteric arcanotech.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 06:03:11
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Neutron lasers were first mainly found in the realms of FW rules.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 06:19:37
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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lord_blackfang wrote: streetsamurai wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:I'm getting a bit tired of everything in this army getting 1-2 unique rules that do the same or similar to an existing USR.
It's the opposite for me. I really like that army has some unique special rules. Help to differenciate them
How does it differentiate them if they're the same?
Taser = Tesla
Neural Trauma = Poison (4+)
Transonic = Rending + AP2 on all attacks after the first round
My bad
read your post way too fast. Tought you meant you didn't like unique special rules for army, and wanted all army to only have USR.
I agree with you, it's ridiculous when they make rules that are exactly the same as an USR, and named them differently.
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lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 06:42:01
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Snivelling Workbot
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H.B.M.C. wrote:... and bear some of the most esoteric and destructive tank-portable weaponry the Tech-Priests can devise.
Twin-Linked Autocannon.
Heavy Stubber.
And let's not forget the Stub Rifle on the Mech-Assassin guys.
Just screams "archeotech" to me.
Way to cherrypick the few mundane weapons in the list and completely ignore all the awesome exotic stuff like Galvanic Rifles, Radium Jezzails, Phosphor Serpentas, molecular dissonance Chordaclaws, Transuranic Arquebus and the like.
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"Skin is the prison of the blessed and the stronghold of the heretic." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 06:50:45
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Executing Exarch
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Nvm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 07:23:39
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Playing Kill Team with these guys and their Doctrina Imperatives is going to be interesting all of the sudden.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 08:02:55
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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You know what's funny?
I showed all this stuff to my FLGS manager and he showed me the order form and info for Skitarii from GW.
It does indeed say clampack.
So WTF is it?
We now know we're not getting a HQ, so this is leaving me at a quandary.
Edit: Hang on... This order list is for the entire month of April!!!
This weekend: Skitarii Rangers, Vanguard and the Ballistarius kit.
Next weekend: Codex and Rustwalkers.
Weekend after that: Dunewalker.
Weekend after that: Possible Clampack?
Could it be the HQ and preorder from the big AdMech Codex?
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 08:12:39
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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It's probably a Skitarii Alpha with some of the relic options.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 08:59:49
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Leaping Khawarij
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BrookM wrote:It's probably a Skitarii Alpha with some of the relic options.
If that's true ill still be happy honestly. But maybe there's a solo ??
Wait that clampack might be the Eldar guy then as they are rumoured to be next.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 09:05:14
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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That'll do!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 09:12:09
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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migooo wrote: BrookM wrote:It's probably a Skitarii Alpha with some of the relic options.
If that's true ill still be happy honestly. But maybe there's a solo ??
Wait that clampack might be the Eldar guy then as they are rumoured to be next.
I thought Eldar were in May.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 09:27:16
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Leaping Khawarij
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Puscifer wrote:migooo wrote: BrookM wrote:It's probably a Skitarii Alpha with some of the relic options.
If that's true ill still be happy honestly. But maybe there's a solo ??
Wait that clampack might be the Eldar guy then as they are rumoured to be next.
I thought Eldar were in May.
Possible but we don't have any other rumours between that and fantasy 9th sorry I mean Warhammer BE- HH ( before Emperor and Horus Heresy )
If it's skitari ill be pleasantly surprised but unless there's a solo or we have a guy with some of the relic options or we just have a " character / hq " from the am codex before it turns up its probably from another army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 09:41:13
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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On today's blog post from GW:
Come back later to find out more about the Sicarian Infiltrators and a very special book…
What book are they talking about?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 09:43:31
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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nflagey wrote:On today's blog post from GW:
Come back later to find out more about the Sicarian Infiltrators and a very special book…
What book are they talking about?
Skitarii codex is my bet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 09:50:19
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Isn't it supposed to come the week after??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 09:55:07
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No.
It's always released in the 2nd to last week. With Harlequins, Codex came with the Starweaver, then Shadowseer/Death Jester in the last week. Blood Angels, it came with the Tac Squad, then Terminators in the last week. Etc..
Basically to get you to pre-order something on top in the week you faithfully pick up the new Codex at full price at your local GW store.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 09:59:50
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Probably the Pre-order for the special edition.
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"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 11:28:33
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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There's also a novel coming out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 12:45:52
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Enginseer with a Wrench
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Does anyone know the price on those Dunecrawlers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 13:03:32
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p92/93 updated release and stats
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Leaping Khawarij
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It's probably going to be around 45 pounds
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