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 Exergy wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Power Sword goes with Carbine, Goad goes with the Flechette Blaster on Infiltrators.

We havent seen what the Powersword and carbine looks like yet. Have seen it on the sprue but no painted models yet.

If we've seen the Power Sword and Carbine on the sprue, then how could we not see what they look like?

Plus it doesn't take someone seeing them on painted models to know that per the rules for the unit, that's how it goes...


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Requizen wrote:
$130 more for DI cards, tactical cards, a poster, and objective markers. Hahahahah no.

No kidding. Was ready for the special edition this time, but nope. Not at that price.

That price was the difference between me getting the book, cards, and a set of Infiltrators...or the book.

I'm taking the one which gets me those sweet, sweet Infiltrators every time.

but... but, they're hex-shaped!
c'mon guys, surely the cards be hex-shaped means an instant-buy!

Anyone else interested in the other colour schemes?

migooo wrote:
Anyone else interested in the other colour schemes?

For once I'm actually mostly satisfied with the GW studio paint scheme for an army, although I'll probably replace the beige/tan bits with something more rusty looking.

migooo wrote:
Anyone else interested in the other colour schemes?

I am. But none straight from GW...

Immedialtely I thought about this, when I saw Skitarii:



What is yours?

Anyone think we'll see a Plastic Lucius pattern Warhound Titan?

<ducks>

 boredbeard wrote:

migooo wrote:
Anyone else interested in the other colour schemes?

I am. But none straight from GW...

Immedialtely I thought about this, when I saw Skitarii:



What is yours?

I thought of them too, then I thought about how much the vanguard reminds me of fallout power armor. Would be a neat idea to build a post-apocalyptic themed force.

I'm really hoping we get a paint scheme for some of the Forge Worlds near the Cadian Gate.

My Cadians need something visually distinctive to offset the blandness of the color scheme I chose.

 Talys wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:
GW really needs to fix their wording "ten sets of stubcarbines and power swords" implies ten carbines, ten swords. On reality its five carbines and five swords.

It's actually the ambiguity of the English language.

Walk into a Tim Horton's and say: "I'd like a dozen of the honey dip and chocolate coated donuts" -- is that 12 or 24 donuts? Most likely, the person at the register will believe you want 12 total, ask you, "just a mix, or how many of each?"

You can mean, "ten sets of (carbines and power swords)" or, "ten sets of (carbines) and [ten sets of] (power swords)"

I dedicate this thread to my wife, Laura, and Jason. Is my wife Laura, or, am I dedicating this thread to my unnamed wife as well as Laura (and Jason)?

Gotta love English.

Or is Jason your wife?

Gotta love modern English and changing social standards.


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 Hive City Dweller wrote:

 boredbeard wrote:

migooo wrote:
Anyone else interested in the other colour schemes?

I am. But none straight from GW...

Immedialtely I thought about this, when I saw Skitarii:



What is yours?

I thought of them too, then I thought about how much the vanguard reminds me of fallout power armor. Would be a neat idea to build a post-apocalyptic themed force.

Spoiler:

It's 40k. There are a LOT of "post-apocalyptic" locations to choose from. Like Vraks.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:

 boredbeard wrote:

migooo wrote:
Anyone else interested in the other colour schemes?

I am. But none straight from GW...

Immedialtely I thought about this, when I saw Skitarii:



What is yours?

I thought of them too, then I thought about how much the vanguard reminds me of fallout power armor. Would be a neat idea to build a post-apocalyptic themed force.

Spoiler:

Really good choice...

...but those coats. Imagine dark brown, almost black with slightly lighter inside, on the body of graphite treated black primer. Where only thing you can quickly spot are the eyes - rich red lined outside with blazing orange...

Twenty of them, striding through the sands of Mars with light grace and grim purpose..

migooo wrote:
Anyone else interested in the other colour schemes?

Certainly am, don't we sometimes get previews with the e-book releases? Nothing that I can see at the moment. I think I will be going with purple robes.

Hawkeye888 wrote:I like how people are hung up on the dex price...instead of being excited about an affordable GW item.

Its because its not the main Adeptus Mechanicus codex and just something they're trying to get us to buy thinking this is it, because they haven't announced anything else. A supplement or even a stand alone codex that plays off another army only makes sense when there is a larger army its derived from. While I wouldn't go so far as to say its deceptive there is some degree of misleading through factual omission. Most everyone reading this forum knows what GW intends, but if GW's own pitiful market analysis is any basis for its state of mind they believe less than 10% of their fan base frequent internet forums; that is to say they'd believe their buyers are ignorant of a Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus. I'm not going to argue about the price, but its because I know this isn't suppose to be it. Who knows maybe we're all wrong and this is it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really hoping we get a paint scheme for some of the Forge Worlds near the Cadian Gate.

My Cadians need something visually distinctive to offset the blandness of the color scheme I chose.

Kantrael? I would be very surprised if they mentioned it.

so the infiltrators gives a malus to the bs, ws and ini of units near them. If used in combinaison with with the vanguards toughness malus, I think these guys will be very strong

 aka_mythos wrote:

Hawkeye888 wrote:I like how people are hung up on the dex price...instead of being excited about an affordable GW item.

Its because its not the main Adeptus Mechanicus codex and just something they're trying to get us to buy thinking this is it, because they haven't announced anything else. A supplement or even a stand alone codex that plays off another army only makes sense when there is a larger army its derived from. While I wouldn't go so far as to say its deceptive there is some degree of misleading through factual omission. Most everyone reading this forum knows what GW intends, but if GW's own pitiful market analysis is any basis for its state of mind they believe less than 10% of their fan base frequent internet forums; that is to say they'd believe their buyers are ignorant of a Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus. I'm not going to argue about the price, but its because I know this isn't suppose to be it. Who knows maybe we're all wrong and this is it.

assuming they're not the only admech codex we're gonna get anytime soon is pure speculation. thing is... aren't Skitarii mostly "it" as far as troops for the admech go? unless they give us the legio cybernetica. the rest of the admech's military is mostly super heavies like titans and the like yes?

There are larger classes of combat servitors known as Praetorians.

Also the sagitarii, and the cataphractii, and magi, arc-magi, ballisteria, luminum, enginseers etc... *edit* oh and secutors, combat servitors, menials...

 BrookM wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really hoping we get a paint scheme for some of the Forge Worlds near the Cadian Gate.

My Cadians need something visually distinctive to offset the blandness of the color scheme I chose.

Kantrael? I would be very surprised if they mentioned it.

There's a few smaller Forge Worlds in Segmentum Obscurus. Heck, per "The 13th Black Crusade" map there are no less than two Forge Worlds in the Cadian system alone(Kantrael and Demios Binary).

You're probably right though...and that kind of saddens me.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really hoping we get a paint scheme for some of the Forge Worlds near the Cadian Gate.

My Cadians need something visually distinctive to offset the blandness of the color scheme I chose.

Kantrael? I would be very surprised if they mentioned it.

There's a few smaller Forge Worlds in Segmentum Obscurus. Heck, per "The 13th Black Crusade" map there are no less than two Forge Worlds in the Cadian system alone(Kantrael and Demios Binary).

You're probably right though...and that kind of saddens me.

The focus will probably be on the big name Forge Worlds and those with those nifty Knightly Orders at their disposal or in direct vicinity. So, Mars, Metallica and Ryza at the very least.

And a missed opportunity to include the Skitarii Tribunes, the caste of Skitarii that acts as the intermediary commanders between the squads and the Tech-Priests.

I'm gonna guess that the forge worlds covered in the book re paint schemes will be Mars, Agripinaa, Ryza, Metalica, and Lucis.
the codex apocryphra in WD 61, that gave us our first look at the Skitarii covers forge worlds, and those ones are the ones mentioned.

 BrookM wrote:
There are larger classes of combat servitors known as Praetorians.

Ogryn sized in fact

Thing is, I'm not sure if they are really sticking to the established Skitarii fluff. Like, none of the new units have been mentioned in any previous fluff, and the hyspasists, which are described as being the basic lasgun armed infantry, have not appeared.

I am really looking forward to more about the onagar models, they look interesting and seem like they could be very useful.

 aka_mythos wrote:

Hawkeye888 wrote:I like how people are hung up on the dex price...instead of being excited about an affordable GW item.

Its because its not the main Adeptus Mechanicus codex and just something they're trying to get us to buy thinking this is it, because they haven't announced anything else. A supplement or even a stand alone codex that plays off another army only makes sense when there is a larger army its derived from. While I wouldn't go so far as to say its deceptive there is some degree of misleading through factual omission. Most everyone reading this forum knows what GW intends, but if GW's own pitiful market analysis is any basis for its state of mind they believe less than 10% of their fan base frequent internet forums; that is to say they'd believe their buyers are ignorant of a Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus. I'm not going to argue about the price, but its because I know this isn't suppose to be it. Who knows maybe we're all wrong and this is it.

While I'd be extremely disappointed in this I'd be more willing to accept if we had a bloody HQ.

migooo wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

Hawkeye888 wrote:I like how people are hung up on the dex price...instead of being excited about an affordable GW item.

Its because its not the main Adeptus Mechanicus codex and just something they're trying to get us to buy thinking this is it, because they haven't announced anything else. A supplement or even a stand alone codex that plays off another army only makes sense when there is a larger army its derived from. While I wouldn't go so far as to say its deceptive there is some degree of misleading through factual omission. Most everyone reading this forum knows what GW intends, but if GW's own pitiful market analysis is any basis for its state of mind they believe less than 10% of their fan base frequent internet forums; that is to say they'd believe their buyers are ignorant of a Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus. I'm not going to argue about the price, but its because I know this isn't suppose to be it. Who knows maybe we're all wrong and this is it.

While I'd be extremely disappointed in this I'd be more willing to accept if we had a bloody HQ.

Exactly. One HQ choice would have made this a completely different release.

Just Skitarii Tribune: Has a fancy gun and a fancy sword and a servo arm. Acts in place of the Tech-Priests when they are not around to supervise.

There, done. You have your second HQ for the eventual AdMech book (if that ever happens), and we have an army that functions like a regular damned army.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And a missed opportunity to include the Skitarii Tribunes, the caste of Skitarii that acts as the intermediary commanders between the squads and the Tech-Priests.

I'm betting the apparent specific emphasis on the idea of a techpriest sitting in a bunker/orbiting ship directly linked into and controlling the Skitarii forces means they've decided to ditch that bit of fluff, which is a shame and slightly reinforces my apprehension about what else they've done to the fluff...but honestly all I can think about at the moment are those lovely, lovely Ruststalkers. The name is silly, and the domed heads on the Infiltrators look extremely derpy to my eye, but the Ruststalker Princeps, weapon bitz, and the bodies more than make up for that. Mine will be converted into Sisters of Cydonia with skull-heads and subtle boob-plates(claw & dagger loadout I think), the Princeps will be left stock as it's so fantastic, I'll fluff it as a Secutor leading a clade of mech-assassins.

Honestly I have to give GW credit, they knocked this one out of the park. They've finally realised that charging full-price for a minidex isn't on, the regular infantry look great even if they're not what I personally was hoping for and by GW standards are positively reasonable in terms of pricing, the stalkers are fantastic and a real cornucopia of bitz, the cavalry walkers look amazing although are perhaps the biggest misstep in the release considering the disparity between model pricing and unit cost/effectiveness, and honestly when I look at the Dunewalker it isn't bad or anything, it's just underwhelming compared with the rest of the fantastic models.

It's almost enough for me to forgive them for blowing up Warhammer Fantasy and pissing all over the Iron Hands. Almost. If they do end up putting out a further codex/minidex focusing on the Cult Mechanicus side of Admech and it's up to these standards...*shudder* man, anticipating GW stuff again is weird, it's like I've woken up and discovered I actually quite like Nigel Farage after all

Not sure why people are so hung up on needing an HQ. Pretty much all you're losing out on is Obj Sec from not being able to run a CAD, but the Skitarii unique Detachment is so flexible compared to the Harlequins one you can set it up practically however you want, all you need is a SINGLE BOX of Ranger/Vanguards to fill the compulsory slots.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

migooo wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

Hawkeye888 wrote:I like how people are hung up on the dex price...instead of being excited about an affordable GW item.

Its because its not the main Adeptus Mechanicus codex and just something they're trying to get us to buy thinking this is it, because they haven't announced anything else. A supplement or even a stand alone codex that plays off another army only makes sense when there is a larger army its derived from. While I wouldn't go so far as to say its deceptive there is some degree of misleading through factual omission. Most everyone reading this forum knows what GW intends, but if GW's own pitiful market analysis is any basis for its state of mind they believe less than 10% of their fan base frequent internet forums; that is to say they'd believe their buyers are ignorant of a Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus. I'm not going to argue about the price, but its because I know this isn't suppose to be it. Who knows maybe we're all wrong and this is it.

While I'd be extremely disappointed in this I'd be more willing to accept if we had a bloody HQ.

Exactly. One HQ choice would have made this a completely different release.

Just Skitarii Tribune: Has a fancy gun and a fancy sword and a servo arm. Acts in place of the Tech-Priests when they are not around to supervise.

There, done. You have your second HQ for the eventual AdMech book (if that ever happens), and we have an army that functions like a regular damned army.

Enginseers too maybe a direct port from the IG book or whatever they are called now.

And you release a box that does 2 armies omg how easy was that?


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 CryonicCenobyte wrote:
Not sure why people are so hung up on needing an HQ. Pretty much all you're losing out on is Obj Sec from not being able to run a CAD, but the Skitarii unique Detachment is so flexible compared to the Harlequins one you can set it up practically however you want, all you need is a SINGLE BOX of Ranger/Vanguards to fill the compulsory slots.

Except they directly mention Alpha Primes within the WD

migooo wrote:

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 CryonicCenobyte wrote:
Not sure why people are so hung up on needing an HQ. Pretty much all you're losing out on is Obj Sec from not being able to run a CAD, but the Skitarii unique Detachment is so flexible compared to the Harlequins one you can set it up practically however you want, all you need is a SINGLE BOX of Ranger/Vanguards to fill the compulsory slots.

Except they directly mention Alpha Primes within the WD

Yeah, which is an Alpha selected as your Warlord. I'm not seeing the issue.