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Super Newb wrote:
Oh cool! Hard for me to read though. Does the robot only have a 3+ save?

3+, a 5++ and FNP.

With that protocol in place those robots can each shoot 9 S6 AP3 shots a turn, with 3 of them twin linked.

Curious to see what their handler can take from those weapon lists. The gamma pistol is nice but wondering if there is anything available that is more long range.

 Looky Likey wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Oh cool! Hard for me to read though. Does the robot only have a 3+ save?

3+, a 5++ and FNP.

Together with Toughness 7.

Yes, I like them, like them a lot

 Looky Likey wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Oh cool! Hard for me to read though. Does the robot only have a 3+ save?

3+, a 5++ and FNP.

Yeah I squinted and figured it out. FNP is variable though. They have it first turn then you pick and maybe have it thereafter.

Every Tyranid player and Greater Daemon fan looks at that profile and goes "Why are we still only Toughness 6!!!".

Super Newb wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Oh cool! Hard for me to read though. Does the robot only have a 3+ save?

3+, a 5++ and FNP.

Yeah I squinted and figured it out. FNP is variable though. They have it first turn then you pick and maybe have it thereafter.

You pick at the END of your turn and it becomes active on your NEXT turn--which is kind of interesting.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Super Newb wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Oh cool! Hard for me to read though. Does the robot only have a 3+ save?

3+, a 5++ and FNP.

Yeah I squinted and figured it out. FNP is variable though. They have it first turn then you pick and maybe have it thereafter.

You pick at the END of your turn and it becomes active on your NEXT turn--which is kind of interesting.

Yes... interesting. Another way to say not as good as picking at the start of your turn lol.

Guess I will be using my castellax for these as they are so much sexier, looking at the pics I'm guessing a dreadnought size base.

Super Newb wrote:
Yes... interesting. Another way to say not as good as picking at the start of your turn lol.

But an interesting take on the whole pre-programming the robots. I like it as a concept and is a nice nod back to the convoluted programming rules of 1st edition

Super Newb wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Super Newb wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Oh cool! Hard for me to read though. Does the robot only have a 3+ save?

3+, a 5++ and FNP.

Yeah I squinted and figured it out. FNP is variable though. They have it first turn then you pick and maybe have it thereafter.

You pick at the END of your turn and it becomes active on your NEXT turn--which is kind of interesting.

Yes... interesting. Another way to say not as good as picking at the start of your turn lol.

Actually I can see a place for it.

Envision this scenario:
Your Kastelans are just barely outside of range this turn for shooting their Heavy Phospher Blasters, but since you have them on a key objective--you know they'll be getting attacked within two turns.

You activate "Protector Protocol" at the end of your previous turn turn, and next turn you get to double-tap with the carapace mounted Heavy Phospher Blasters for a total of 6 S6 AP3 Luminagen shots per Kastelan Robot.
Finish out that turn, keep Protector activated until whatever is coming for your Robot is close enough to start firing back and then switch to Aegis, then once it starts to look like they can maybe pull off a charge switch to Conqueror.

And that's not taking into consideration if you switch the Power Fists for twin-linked Heavy Phospher Blasters!

 JohnnyHell wrote:
There MUST be alternate heads on the sprue for the Kastelan too, surely? (also, why the newly-corrupted spelling? Copyright-proofing?)

That's most likely the real world reason. Fluffwise, the English language has changed after a short two hundred years in the real world so a change after ten thousand years in the 40K setting is easy to see.

I'm mostly happy with the stats, but BS3? Really? Come on.. super high-tech robots of the year 40,000 whatever can't aim?

Surely if the Space Marines have optical aim enhancement because of cybernetic implants, you would think that cybernetic beings would be able to aim just as well.

and more pics courtesy of atia from bolter and chainsword.




and better stat line picture

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Every Tyranid player and Greater Daemon fan looks at that profile and goes "Why are we still only Toughness 6!!!".

Mine are T 7 I play mono-nurgle...

I'm liking this release a lot. My wallet, less so....

I just need to see the price on the Kastelans. If it's a decent price, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be getting at least a box.

 alleus wrote:
I'm mostly happy with the stats, but BS3? Really? Come on.. super high-tech robots of the year 40,000 whatever can't aim?

Surely if the Space Marines have optical aim enhancement because of cybernetic implants, you would think that cybernetic beings would be able to aim just as well.

All their stats should be one higher. And they should get a 2+ save, and they should have drop pods, and they should have....


OR


Maybe they can't have everything because you know: game balance and they already have an a**-ton of buffs and a sweet stat-line

Not to mention there may be other ways to buff their shooting...

The leaks for these have come pretty early to what we usually get for the weekly releases! That and the pics appear to be pretty good compared to the usual mid-earthquake shake photos that show little lol.

Well, they still look lame. Which is of course no problem, as there's plenty of alternatives!

Personally, I'm not a big fan of paying GW's premium prices for something that looks 'ok'. If I want something that looks 'good enough', I can scratchbuild or kitbash a placeholder for a few bucks, rather than pay tens of euros each and support GW's mediocre designs. I might buy some of those better models, though - voting with the wallet that when they make a good kit, then it sells more.

 endtransmission wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Yes... interesting. Another way to say not as good as picking at the start of your turn lol.

But an interesting take on the whole pre-programming the robots. I like it as a concept and is a nice nod back to the convoluted programming rules of 1st edition

Yep. You'll have to be damn careful issuing anything bar the FnP one though, if your Datasmith buys the farm you could be stuck unable to move or unable to shoot. Mind you, the thought of marching a unit up into the midfield against Marines and just leaving Protector mode active gives me good-time shivers; that's a 36" death-bubble for MEQs.

These chappies do make the Phosphor Onager seem even more underwhelming in comparison to the other loadouts though; there was an argument for it when it was really the only way of getting reliable long-range Luminagen, but Kastelan bots give you that, in greater volume, and on a more durable platform. Not to mention the opportunity cost of taking Phosphor over Neutron or Icarus.

Man, I wish dreadnoughts were MCs like this instead of walkers...

 Kanluwen wrote:
I just need to see the price on the Kastelans. If it's a decent price, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be getting at least a box.

At a guess, 25-30GBP

Henshini wrote:
Man, I wish dreadnoughts were MCs like this instead of walkers...

So does everyone.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Yes... interesting. Another way to say not as good as picking at the start of your turn lol.

But an interesting take on the whole pre-programming the robots. I like it as a concept and is a nice nod back to the convoluted programming rules of 1st edition

Yep. You'll have to be damn careful issuing anything bar the FnP one though, if your Datasmith buys the farm you could be stuck unable to move or unable to shoot. Mind you, the thought of marching a unit up into the midfield against Marines and just leaving Protector mode active gives me good-time shivers; that's a 36" death-bubble for MEQs.

These chappies do make the Phosphor Onager seem even more underwhelming in comparison to the other loadouts though; there was an argument for it when it was really the only way of getting reliable long-range Luminagen, but Kastelan bots give you that, in greater volume, and on a more durable platform. Not to mention the opportunity cost of taking Phosphor over Neutron or Icarus.

Considering it looks like the bots are gonna start at around 300 points(if the base robots are 120 and the squad leader is 50). That is a pretty heafty starting point

Not sure how I feel about a Tech-Priest that doesn't have an Omnissian Axe and a Servo-Arm. A power fist just feels weird...

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I just need to see the price on the Kastelans. If it's a decent price, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be getting at least a box.

At a guess, 25-30GBP

I'm pretty sure they'll be 20 for $10.

...if I keep wishing it might happen, right?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I just need to see the price on the Kastelans. If it's a decent price, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be getting at least a box.

At a guess, 25-30GBP

Unit comp is 2 K + 1 DS, so how much for a set? 50-60 GBP?

Second thing, I do like that GW is adding more silly rules. First the hurl with knights, now the refractor with the robots. Forging that narrative, baby! (..not sure if sarcasm..)

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not sure how I feel about a Tech-Priest that doesn't have an Omnissian Axe and a Servo-Arm. A power fist just feels weird...

Datasmiths aren't Tech-Priests!

They're Inquisitors! *duck*


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 prowla wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I just need to see the price on the Kastelans. If it's a decent price, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be getting at least a box.

At a guess, 25-30GBP

Unit comp is 2 K + 1 DS, so how much for a set?

Second thing, I do like that GW is adding more silly rules. First the hurl with knights, now the refractor with the robots.

The Datasmith was shown as part of the set on that poster, so I would be really surprised if he does not come with the set.

S6 Ap3 Heavy3 and Luminagen? On a T7 platform?

Hehe, Eldar Windriders, meet your bane!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not sure how I feel about a Tech-Priest that doesn't have an Omnissian Axe and a Servo-Arm. A power fist just feels weird...

That's a power fist?!?

I assumed it was the old NES glove controller used to control the robots...