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2015/05/01 05:46:15
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote: That's what I thought, Forgeworld doesn't make that unit, they make the Castellax Battle Automata, and they're all on the big oval bases, The Kastellan is on a Dreadnought sized base. Buying the forgeworld Castellax would put you at a disadvantage size-wise.
I think you are thinking of the Thanatar which comes on the big base. Castellax comes on a 65mm round base.
Below is a size comp shot of Kastelan and Castellax with both bases the same size. I think Bubbles really needs some Castellax sized and styled shoulder pads. The current ones just look like Space Marine pads. Castellax sized and styled pads might get rid of some of the everything-is-round theme and would certainly beef beef him up to look like more of a threat.
2015/05/01 06:01:32
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
If it's the right size, it might be possible to swap in the head from Bandai's Hi-Mock kit. That'd give it a less egg shaped head as well as a single eye piece (unless you use the one from the weapon set which is just a featureless dome).
Have we seen what the price for the 'bots will be?
The problem is two-fold: the head and the shoulders. The wimpy shoulders on the GW kit make it look toyish and far less aggressive. I mean, model a space marine without the shoulder pads, and they look far less cool. The head... well, it's just not a winner.
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2015/05/01 06:11:28
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
The shoulders should be easy enough to fix by mounting some Dreadnought knee plates. Doing that should give it an appearance somewhat closer to the Castellax. The real problem is the head. I wish they'd gone with the cockpit canopy look like the Castellax and the original had.
I think it looks much better with the visor filled in like has been photo shopped. It makes a huge difference to me. I didn't like the look of it when first seeing it but 80% was the visor 20% is probably that it looks much less mechanical and I like my Eldar streamlined and my imperial mechanical looking. But with the above conversion and awesome data priest it's doable for me. ( although I may still just go with the castellax lol)
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2015/05/01 06:42:33
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
The issue I have is even if you fill in the dome, it still protrudes too high for my taste, so that would have to be trimmed down, then you'd have to make shoulderpads for it, remove the bulbous bits at the ankles and lower it down onto some Dreadnought feet, and then spend ages squaring-off some of the corners on all the armour plates. Oh and figure out a way to mount Blasters on the fists without them looking as derpy as they do atm. And add cabling and greebles to break up the smooth silhouette a bit.
Even assuming all that is possible(which we won't know until we get sprue pics), it's a lot of work compared to just bitz-ordering the Datasmith and arming the lovely Castellax models with Phosphor Blasters.
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2015/05/01 08:06:03
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
BIG fan of the bots, Don't forget that the Mechanicus has lost the majority of it's tech since the HH. The Kastellan is probably modelled after the walkers of old.
2015/05/01 08:14:14
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
Take two GW pads for SM and glue together. Put vertically over the visor. GS a curved edge around it, rivet. Add Iconography. Helmet is less stupid. Shoulders can be Dreadnought knees or bent plasticard.
And we're back to: 'You shouldn't need to fix something that expensive"
I cannot fathom why you wouldn't purchase Castellax to use as these instead. Their weapon loadouts appear to be comparable/easy to treat as counts-as, roughly the same size and infinitely better models.
sockwithaticket wrote: I cannot fathom why you wouldn't purchase Castellax to use as these instead.
1. Because you like these models.
2. Because you don't like the Castellax model.
3. Because you prefer to work in plastic.
4. Because you really don't like working with resin.
5. Because you want that awesome Datasmith.
sockwithaticket wrote: And we're back to: 'You shouldn't need to fix something that expensive"
I cannot fathom why you wouldn't purchase Castellax to use as these instead. Their weapon loadouts appear to be comparable/easy to treat as counts-as, roughly the same size and infinitely better models.
I agree that you shouldn't need to fix models at the price you pay, but I don't think these need fixing. I really like them. Not necessarily more than the Castellax, but... Different to the Castellax. I also really like the Electro Priests too, they have a suitably weird vibe to them.
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2015/05/01 09:28:29
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
The more I see those robots, the more I like them, and I loved them initially.
Cannot wait to get a few and paint them white.
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2015/05/01 11:23:07
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
Glad I'm not the only one who saw that! Exalted, Sir!
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2015/05/01 13:27:37
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
Anyone want to try and speculate on the stats for the tracked guys? I'm thinking probably a 3+ armor save, T4 or 5, 2 wounds? Mayyybe T4 2+ save 1 wound?
The plasma weapon looks alot like a beefed up plasma caliver from the skitarii.
2015/05/01 13:33:24
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
ultimentra wrote: Anyone want to try and speculate on the stats for the tracked guys? I'm thinking probably a 3+ armor save, T4 or 5, 2 wounds? Mayyybe T4 2+ save 1 wound?
The plasma weapon looks alot like a beefed up plasma caliver from the skitarii.
I imagine T4 W2 4+ 6++ but hope I am wrong.
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2015/05/01 14:00:05
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
Lockark wrote: If you were to fill in the visor so the "head" just looks like one large glass dome, and paint it so. I think it would actully make the modle look better. Someone want to do that edit? lol
Really quick edit, hope this is what you were after.
This ^ 1000x This ^
This edit just sold me the model.
2015/05/01 14:36:03
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
Lockark wrote: If you were to fill in the visor so the "head" just looks like one large glass dome, and paint it so. I think it would actully make the modle look better. Someone want to do that edit? lol
Really quick edit, hope this is what you were after.
This ^ 1000x This ^
This edit just sold me the model.
Agreed! I will definitely be doing this
2015/05/01 14:54:27
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
Mr.Church13 wrote: So do the tracked guys have an option other than blowing themselves up with plasma.
I mean I'm all for blue gaseous explosions but I'd like a choice in the matter.
There's a mention in the Heavy Phospher Blaster entry from the WD about it being a common feature for the tracked guys.
they seem to be putting that on everything.
Afraid of mass Str6 AP3. It certainly clears meq. I guess plas for 2+ saves. Will they have anything at range to dakka down hordes
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2015/05/01 15:07:17
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p134 servitors, electro priests, robots
- 5000+
- 4000+
- 2500+ 
"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion
