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The skitarii detachment gives EVERYONE scout, and most units add 3" to their movement. Why the devil would you want a transport? Also, why would admech use blessed, blessed vehicles to protect abominable "meaty" creatures who are designed to be their protection?

I think with Codex Skitarii and Codex Cult Mechanicus coming another overseeing codex for the Ad Mech is as likely as there being a new "Codex Eldar" to go alongside Craftwords and Harlequins.

GW have shown now that single factions are going to have multiple Codecies.

Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
The skitarii detachment gives EVERYONE scout, and most units add 3" to their movement. Why the devil would you want a transport? Also, why would admech use blessed, blessed vehicles to protect abominable "meaty" creatures who are designed to be their protection?

Well, you're right on in terms of fluff, but deep-striking ALL that Haywire and Plasma where-ever you like Turn 1, can be so disruptive that an opponent might never recover. The scout-moves are cool, but even getting first-turn is no assurance that you'll be in range of what you would like to be.

Heres to hoping theres some sort of rule that lets skitarii and admech work together...other than the normal ally rules

 BloodGrin wrote:
They move 9 inches, they run faster.
Why put them in a Rhino where if it gets blown up you have a pretty good chance of losing half your squad at least.
It makes no sense.

They, as in the bulk of your force they, don't move 9 inches. Vanguard and Rangers don't move 9 inches. And they'll almost never bother running too since they'd give up their shooting to do that.

But you are right about one thing,And only one thing lol, exploding rhinos. I'm much more in favor of drop pods than rhinos myself.

Super Newb wrote:

 BloodGrin wrote:
They move 9 inches, they run faster.
Why put them in a Rhino where if it gets blown up you have a pretty good chance of losing half your squad at least.
It makes no sense.

They, as in the bulk of your force they, don't move 9 inches. Vanguard and Rangers don't move 9 inches. And they'll almost never bother running too since they'd give up their shooting to do that.

But you are right about one thing,And only one thing lol, exploding rhinos. I'm much more in favor of drop pods than rhinos myself.

Drop pods are almost worse.
You drop, you go bang bang bang, and yes you shoot alot. But then everything else turns as you have to stand there for a turn and then shoots the living hell out of you after they have had a turn to move to get into optimal position to shoot you in the ocular implant.

I will stick with my psykers and hope for Precog and or Forewarning.
Heck I may even start running two Crusaders in front of each squad just to have the Storm Shields eat up shots first. (30 points for 2 bodies with power swords and storm shields I can handle that)

Double post

How're you going to attach two crusaders to each squad? They aren't ICs.

doubly

Don't edit your double posts, just let the system sort it out.

 pretre wrote:
How're you going to attach two crusaders to each squad? They aren't ICs.

I already put an Inquisitor in each unit with divination, and psycotroke grenades and power armor, so it would just be adding a warband in each though it is min 3, just no idea what I would choose for the third unit..another crusader or maybe a priest for reroll saves or maybe a Jokero

 BloodGrin wrote:

 pretre wrote:
How're you going to attach two crusaders to each squad? They aren't ICs.

I already put an Inquisitor in each unit with divination, and psycotroke grenades and power armor, so it would just be adding a warband in each though it is min 3, just no idea what I would choose for the third.

You still can't attach the crusaders, even with the inquisitor, to a skitarii squad.

 pretre wrote:
Don't edit your double posts, just let the Omnissiah sort it out.

There, that's better.

 pretre wrote:

 BloodGrin wrote:

 pretre wrote:
How're you going to attach two crusaders to each squad? They aren't ICs.

I already put an Inquisitor in each unit with divination, and psycotroke grenades and power armor, so it would just be adding a warband in each though it is min 3, just no idea what I would choose for the third.

You still can't attach the crusaders, even with the inquisitor, to a skitarii squad.

Yeah I was just looking up the logistics of it and figured it was too good to be true.
Will stick with the Inquisitors though.

Edit: At least trying to put it together made the last hour at work fly by.

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
for cult mechanicus the new troop units are breachers and destroyers. they are expensive being 50+pts for each model starting with a unit of 3. each has 2 wounds, so they look like they will be durable enough. they come with special rules that allow them to fire two weapons each round, and are relentless.

for destroyers the heavy grav cannon is a nice upgrade to replace the plasma culverin. It also comes with a phospher blaster, allowing it to fire a lot of shots.

breachers i like better, but only come with a single ranged weapon. these are the close combat guys, but come with better ranged weapon options, a heavy arc rifle that has haywire, or a new exotic weapon that does extra wounds with high strength and ap1.

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Funny how none of that lines up with what's shown on the Kataphron Battle Servitors(which seem to be whatever that unit would end up really being).

A heavy phosphor blaster, and heavy grav cannon sounds suspiciously like the fire-power Centurions would offer. ;-) And being troops? Ok!

 pretre wrote:
Don't edit your double posts, just let the system sort it out.

Clearly, since the system erased my actual post and kept the one that said 'double post'

Oh god heavy grav on troops, and phosphor

Ad Mech is is the "no saves allowed army"

Super Newb wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Don't edit your double posts, just let the system sort it out.

Clearly, since the system erased my actual post and kept the one that said 'double post'

It actually will fix itself. The issue is that it is not really a "double post" but rather it's some weirdness where your initial post displays twice. By editing the second post to say "double post", you effectively edited the initial post.


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 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Oh god heavy grav on troops, and phosphor

Ad Mech is is the "no saves allowed army"

Don't get your hopes up too much.

There is nothing on the poster that suggests there is some kind of CC variant servitor.

The Kataphron Battle Servitors come with Incendine Combustors(which can be upgraded to Heavy Phospher Blasters much like the Kastelan Robots can upgrade their carapace mount from an IC to HPB) and some kind of plasma cannon. While there definitely is a weapon that looks like it is grav from the distinctive look on the barrel(seen on the middle Battle Servitor), I have a hard time believing that there is some kind of "Heavy Arc Rifle" as they would have showcased it on the poster.

 Bottle wrote:
GW have shown now that single factions are going to have multiple Codecies.

Perhaps, but the Skitarii Codex belongs to the Skitarii Faction, not an Ad Mech Faction.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
GW have shown now that single factions are going to have multiple Codecies.

Perhaps, but the Skitarii Codex belongs to the Skitarii Faction, not an Ad Mech Faction.

If you look on the boxes and GW website they have the ad Mech one.

migooo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
GW have shown now that single factions are going to have multiple Codecies.

Perhaps, but the Skitarii Codex belongs to the Skitarii Faction, not an Ad Mech Faction.

If you look on the boxes and GW website they have the ad Mech one.

The book says differently. Page 70 if you're interested.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Oh god heavy grav on troops, and phosphor

Ad Mech is is the "no saves allowed army"

Don't get your hopes up too much.

There is nothing on the poster that suggests there is some kind of CC variant servitor.

The Kataphron Battle Servitors come with Incendine Combustors(which can be upgraded to Heavy Phospher Blasters much like the Kastelan Robots can upgrade their carapace mount from an IC to HPB) and some kind of plasma cannon. While there definitely is a weapon that looks like it is grav from the distinctive look on the barrel(seen on the middle Battle Servitor), I have a hard time believing that there is some kind of "Heavy Arc Rifle" as they would have showcased it on the poster.

You're making assumptions based off those posters which contradict reliable information we have.

Just because Fulgurite Electro-priests and Corpuscarii Electro-priests were grouped together in one picture dubbed "Electro-priests" on the poster doesn't mean the dual-kit doesn't exist. It's 99.9% confirmed.

Logically it follows that Kataphron Breachers and Kataphron Destroyers have also been combined into the Kataphron Battle Servitors image. GW obviously just ran out of space on the poster to split up all the dual-kits.

 Platuan4th wrote:

migooo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
GW have shown now that single factions are going to have multiple Codecies.

Perhaps, but the Skitarii Codex belongs to the Skitarii Faction, not an Ad Mech Faction.

If you look on the boxes and GW website they have the ad Mech one.

The book says differently. Page 70 if you're interested.

Quite true does the MT codex have dual fraction then?

 Platuan4th wrote:

migooo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
GW have shown now that single factions are going to have multiple Codecies.

Perhaps, but the Skitarii Codex belongs to the Skitarii Faction, not an Ad Mech Faction.

If you look on the boxes and GW website they have the ad Mech one.

The book says differently. Page 70 if you're interested.

Yup says this book is Skitarii Faction. Not that there's no potential to be rolled into a big book. I'm personally going with the Ad Mech section on the website. Especially when Cult mechanicus ends up under that tab also.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Heres to hoping theres some sort of rule that lets skitarii and admech work together...other than the normal ally rules

I'm pretty sure I saw that rule...

Oh, here, I found it:

“Don’t forget that Detachments are entirely optional and you can still select an army by taking any models from your collection, as discussed in the Unbound method – ​
it just means that none of the models in your army receive Command Benefits.”

Excerpt From: Games Workshop. “Warhammer 40,000 (Interactive Edition).” Games Workshop, 2014. iBooks. https://itun.es/us/kNVz0.l




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migooo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

migooo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
GW have shown now that single factions are going to have multiple Codecies.

Perhaps, but the Skitarii Codex belongs to the Skitarii Faction, not an Ad Mech Faction.

If you look on the boxes and GW website they have the ad Mech one.

The book says differently. Page 70 if you're interested.

Quite true does the MT codex have dual fraction then?

Nope. Units taken from Codex: Militarum Tempestus are Militarum Tempestus faction. Units taken from Codex: Astra Militarum are Astra Militarum faction. So, in your army, you could, in theory, have multiple units of Tempestus Scions, some from one faction, and some from the other. They just can't be in the same detachment.

 CryonicCenobyte wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Oh god heavy grav on troops, and phosphor

Ad Mech is is the "no saves allowed army"

Don't get your hopes up too much.

There is nothing on the poster that suggests there is some kind of CC variant servitor.

The Kataphron Battle Servitors come with Incendine Combustors(which can be upgraded to Heavy Phospher Blasters much like the Kastelan Robots can upgrade their carapace mount from an IC to HPB) and some kind of plasma cannon. While there definitely is a weapon that looks like it is grav from the distinctive look on the barrel(seen on the middle Battle Servitor), I have a hard time believing that there is some kind of "Heavy Arc Rifle" as they would have showcased it on the poster.

You're making assumptions based off those posters which contradict reliable information we have.

Just because Fulgurite Electro-priests and Corpuscarii Electro-priests were grouped together in one picture dubbed "Electro-priests" on the poster doesn't mean the dual-kit doesn't exist. It's 99.9% confirmed.

Logically it follows that Kataphron Breachers and Kataphron Destroyers have also been combined into the Kataphron Battle Servitors image. GW obviously just ran out of space on the poster to split up all the dual-kits.

They didn't run out of space. I have the poster. I can tell you right now that if they had wanted to, they could have done it.

It just would have necessitated removing the Knight from the back portion of the poster and having the Mechanicus on one side and the Skitarii on the other.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 CryonicCenobyte wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Oh god heavy grav on troops, and phosphor

Ad Mech is is the "no saves allowed army"

Don't get your hopes up too much.

There is nothing on the poster that suggests there is some kind of CC variant servitor.

The Kataphron Battle Servitors come with Incendine Combustors(which can be upgraded to Heavy Phospher Blasters much like the Kastelan Robots can upgrade their carapace mount from an IC to HPB) and some kind of plasma cannon. While there definitely is a weapon that looks like it is grav from the distinctive look on the barrel(seen on the middle Battle Servitor), I have a hard time believing that there is some kind of "Heavy Arc Rifle" as they would have showcased it on the poster.

You're making assumptions based off those posters which contradict reliable information we have.

Just because Fulgurite Electro-priests and Corpuscarii Electro-priests were grouped together in one picture dubbed "Electro-priests" on the poster doesn't mean the dual-kit doesn't exist. It's 99.9% confirmed.

Logically it follows that Kataphron Breachers and Kataphron Destroyers have also been combined into the Kataphron Battle Servitors image. GW obviously just ran out of space on the poster to split up all the dual-kits.

They didn't run out of space. I have the poster. I can tell you right now that if they had wanted to, they could have done it.

It just would have necessitated removing the Knight from the back portion of the poster and having the Mechanicus on one side and the Skitarii on the other.

They could have, but im sure they really..really want to sell those knight kits and promote them, its a big money maker I suppose. honestly I think there are going to be duel kits, GW loves doing duel kits and it allows them to jack up the prices. If not, then oh well not too big of a deal so long as theres plenty of options for those servitors and robots.

I just want to see the alternate head for the dominus, the one thats on the codex cover its like a tall hood it looks trippy. The one on the leaked photo looks more like a skitarii ranger head.