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Super Newb wrote:

 Exergy wrote:
So who feels bad for spending $10 each on arc rifles for Vanguard now that you could just use the heavy arc rifles, probably gets 3 per kit of which everyone will be using grav cannons

I sold all my arc rifles and used FW guns to represent them. So instead of adding to demand by buying more arcs I added to the supply by selling them. I helped lower the price on arc rifles. Lol.

I stayed out of the market and figured something would come along.

 Exergy wrote:

Super Newb wrote:

 Exergy wrote:
So who feels bad for spending $10 each on arc rifles for Vanguard now that you could just use the heavy arc rifles, probably gets 3 per kit of which everyone will be using grav cannons

I sold all my arc rifles and used FW guns to represent them. So instead of adding to demand by buying more arcs I added to the supply by selling them. I helped lower the price on arc rifles. Lol.

I stayed out of the market and figured something would come along.

We're both geniuses!

 Exergy wrote:
So who feels bad for spending $10 each on arc rifles for Vanguard now that you could just use the heavy arc rifles, probably gets 3 per kit of which everyone will be using grav cannons


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 Therion wrote:


I doubt the gun range is an issue with these units, but you're right that battle focus usually does the trick.

Also dont all WK now just run the double Ds? so no invul but probably foot in ruin itis

Not my WKs. In my opinion the invulnerable save + D-sword + Suncannon combo being a free swap is a no brainer.

I think admech would rather deal with the sword+suncannon than double dcannons. A fair number of people are going to be running their own knight and some Robots and those stand up well to suncannons and scatter lasers. They can also play keep away from something with a Dsword until it can be brought down by Grav or Rad

Ye they got one turn to play keep away, since the WK can assault on turn 2 if it wants to. It will always deal more damage and demand more attention by being a threatening stomping D swinging close combat threat with a few ranged guns, than by taking pot shots from somewhere against random infantry units and whatnot. The increased survivability that the scattershield brings just adds to its points effectiveness. There's more efficient sources of ranged D available in the codex.

Will be using these as destroyers for sure- just need to stick a grav cannon on each of them.

That's nice and all, but remember that Destroyers are big. Those are 50mm bases they're on, not 40.

 Kanluwen wrote:
That's nice and all, but remember that Destroyers are big. Those are 50mm bases they're on, not 40.

Sweet, bigger bases will make them look even cooler!

Prolly going to use some of my already counts-as centurions made from Killa Kanz.

 Wilson wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
That's nice and all, but remember that Destroyers are big. Those are 50mm bases they're on, not 40.

Sweet, bigger bases will make them look even cooler!

Bigger bases, and the models standing on pretty damn big rocks to make them as tall as the actual models.

I do like those Forgeworld models a lot, but I assume that if you're bothering to convert them with wysiwyg grav weapons, then you're probably also interested in modeling them to match the size of the unit they're counting as.

Dang I was hoping they would be on 40mm bases so I could use my Thallax for counts-as.

But I am pretty excited for adding in these units down the road. That being said I am not at all regretting putting some Arc weapons on my Skitarii, the scout move really comes in handy IMO, and the squad is so cheap.

 Wilson wrote:
Will be using these as destroyers for sure- just need to stick a grav cannon on each of them.

do remember that forgeworld will release IA14 making some of their mechanicum stuff available for 40k...so in the near future, you'll probably be able to play with the myrmidon model as it is

still, i understand the urge to toy around with those beautiful models, I'm currently creating an Ordo Machinum Inquisitor with a mix of both myrmidon models

Yeah I think Skitarii are fine for arc weapons. They have lots of ablative wounds compared to these tread dudes. A few bolter shots could knock out one of your heavy weapons on these cult mechanicus guys.

 RedFox wrote:


do remember that forgeworld will release IA14 making some of their mechanicum stuff available for 40k...so in the near future, you'll probably be able to play with the myrmidon model as it is

Whoaah, has this been rumoured?

 RedFox wrote:

 Wilson wrote:
Will be using these as destroyers for sure- just need to stick a grav cannon on each of them.

do remember that forgeworld will release IA14 making some of their mechanicum stuff available for 40k...so in the near future, you'll probably be able to play with the myrmidon model as it is

still, i understand the urge to toy around with those beautiful models, I'm currently creating an Ordo Machinum Inquisitor with a mix of both myrmidon models

Adeptis magneticus is your friend

If i where to get them id probably go gravs as well

nudibranch wrote:

 RedFox wrote:


do remember that forgeworld will release IA14 making some of their mechanicum stuff available for 40k...so in the near future, you'll probably be able to play with the myrmidon model as it is

Whoaah, has this been rumoured?

there is a rumor about it on B&C, not sure about the validity of it. But anyway it's not hard to guess it will indeed happen....I'm guessing early 2016 / after the main Adeptus Mechanicus codex

Remember guy we still have no idea on points costs as far as I know for unit equipment(unless I missed something).

Also which units go in which formations, so on and so forth. Will have to see before I get too excited. Mechanicus sees very expensive resulting in a very low model count while also not being the most durable.

 Leth wrote:
Remember guy we still have no idea on points costs as far as I know for unit equipment(unless I missed something).

Also which units go in which formations, so on and so forth. Will have to see before I get too excited. Mechanicus sees very expensive resulting in a very low model count while also not being the most durable.

Go back a bit, we have full points costs and sheets.

 kronk wrote:

nudibranch wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Gravity Contorsion : Whenever a model other than a vehicle undergoes injury inflicted by this weapon , it loses 1D3 Wounds instead of 1. Whenever a vehicle model suffers a penetrating hit inflicted by this weapon , it loses 1D3 HP instead of one .

Ohhh. While that makes it better, it still suffers from the 1 BS3 shot problem on a 50pt model... Alsooo it's competing with the heavy arc riles, which look a lot more reliable.

Yeah... Not so great for those reasons, but still an interesting choice.

I'll surely be taking the new toy. Arc guns are dedicated vehicle killers, but this Torsion thing is way more versatile. At S8 Ap1 it has enough punch to pose a credible threat to Characters and Monstrous Creatures (and Gargantuans, for what matters).

Btw, I suppose those extra wounds are inflicted after saves, but there's no indication on the French text as to when does it happen.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
[Btw, I suppose those extra wounds are inflicted after saves, but there's no indication on the French text as to when does it happen.

 pretre wrote:

Super Newb wrote:

Canon à Torsion: Portée 24" F8 PA1 Lourde1 Contorsion Gravitique
Contorsion Gravitique: Chaque fois qu'une figurine autre qu'un véhicule subit une Blessure infligée par cette arme, elle perd 1D3 PV au lieu de 1. Chaque fois qu'une figurine de véhicule subit une touche pénétrante infligée par cette arme, elle perd 1D3 PC au lieu de 1.

Torsion Cannon : Range 24 S8 AP1 Heavy 1 Gravity Contorsion
Gravity Contorsion : Whenever a model other than a vehicle undergoes injury inflicted by this weapon , it loses 1D3 Wounds instead of 1. Whenever a vehicle model suffers a penetrating hit inflicted by this weapon , it loses 1D3 HP instead of one .

Judging by the translation, it operates like D weapons. Roll to hit, roll to wound, roll save, roll # of wounds.

 obsidiankatana wrote:


Torsion Cannon : Range 24 S8 AP1 Heavy 1 Gravity Contorsion
Gravity Contorsion : Whenever a model other than a vehicle undergoes injury inflicted by this weapon , it loses 1D3 Wounds instead of 1. Whenever a vehicle model suffers a penetrating hit inflicted by this weapon , it loses 1D3 HP instead of one .

Judging by the translation, it operates like D weapons. Roll to hit, roll to wound, roll save, roll # of wounds.

honestly wouldnt it have been easier to just give them Str D, or perhaps StrD with -1 to the table.

I guess str8 AP1 means it cannot ID T5 and it wounds T6 or below on 2s rather than 3s.

Seems bad rulemaking

Yeah Torsion might as well be Str D -1. Only difference is it's harder to hurt vehicles cause you have to wound their armor, and that non-vehicles can take FnP against it.

High T models are also more resilient. Wraithkingts, GUO, Iron Arm'd characters, etc.

 obsidiankatana wrote:
High T models are also more resilient. Wraithkingts, GUO, Iron Arm'd characters, etc.

rollawaythestone wrote:
Yeah Torsion might as well be Str D -1. Only difference is it's harder to hurt vehicles cause you have to wound their armor, and that non-vehicles can take FnP against it.

I get that is it different, but it isnt that different. creating rules just to create more rules.

 Exergy wrote:
I get that is it different, but it isnt that different. creating rules just to create more rules.

Actually it is very different. D-1 is a 3+ to wound or pen anything.

Str8 is a 2+ against T6 and less, a 3+ against T7, 4+ against T8, etc. That means for every toughness except T7 it is different. Against AV11 is the only AV where Str8 and D-1 are the same, every other AV is different becoming an extreme difference at AV13 and 14.

D-1 also would preclude FnP and gives a modification on the resurrection protocols. Then there is the entire interaction with ID and a variety of rules with +1 or -1 to weapon strength.

In fact the only similarity is the D3 HP or wounds lost.

One day, when you're all grown up, you can have a Skulldozer, too.



Just like daddy.

While I like these guys, they sure would have looked amazing with spider-legs! Looking forward to building mine that way!

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
spider-legs

Oh now that is a good idea!

Do we know yet if the Cult Mech codex will include Skitarii or if there is a unified book coming in the near future?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Do we know yet if the Cult Mech codex will include Skitarii or if there is a unified book coming in the near future?

it won't include skitarii, but there's a rumored WD exclusive formation that could possibly include both (pure speculation at this point)

main ad mech codex = 2016

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
While I like these guys, they sure would have looked amazing with spider-legs! Looking forward to building mine that way!

And then you’d have the track parts left over to kitbash TFCs, gun mounts, etc.

 Nevelon wrote:

Spoiler:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
While I like these guys, they sure would have looked amazing with spider-legs! Looking forward to building mine that way!

And then you’d have the track parts left over to kitbash TFCs, gun mounts, etc.

Oooohh, with some left-over lascannons you could make some rapiers...