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 Soladrin wrote:

 darkcloud92 wrote:
Oh god Gundam Wing was so awful story wise, at least the mech designs were cool.
The only good thing about G Gundam was actually "This hand of mine glows with an awesome power! Its burning grip tells me to defeat you! take this! My love, my anger, and all me sorrow! shining finger sword!"

Wait.. how was that a good thing? I could never watch any of the "finger" attacks and not take them out of context.

That's the best part!

The reason we all love G Gundam isn't because it's some super-serious take on a post-apocalyptic planet under fear of the Mech Fights the colonial Bourgeoisie use their homes for to determine who gets to put their name on the Bill of Expensive Things We Have and You Don't first.

It's because it's insane, and out-there, and just takes ideas and runs with them. One of the Gundams is a windmill for crying out loud, and another's a shark!

It's like why we love Gurenn Lagann, or Kill La Kill. They're taking the idea of drama and action in a character-based show, and pushing it about as far as animation can push it without going into abstraction or expressionism.

A bit disappointed we have to wait till Christmas for the next episode of Hellsing Abridged.

But in Commemoration of this tragedy, I offer my Favorite Abridged Series' to tide over my Abridged Series cravings.

DBZA, Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged, and Hellsing Abridged withstanding. Although in DBZA news, they just released their abridged version of Super Android 13.

SAO Abridged by Something Witty Entertainment is probably my favorite abridged series period. I love the idea of portraying Kirito as an Internet Troll and the players of SAO as people actually from the Internet instead of... wherever the original author wrote them to be from. Plus the series involves real character development and plot, going beyond merely mocking its parent series' laughable aspects.

50% Off by Octopimp, an Abridged series of the Anime Free that basically runs itself entirely on gay jokes and the awesome power of Thugisa.

Code MENT by PurpleEyesWTF. It's more like South Park using the basic plot of Code Geass and footage but it's just funny.

Honorable Mention; NonePiece, also by PurpleEyesWTF.

Did code Ment get continued?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Did code Ment get continued?

The most recent episode was May 2015 PurpleEyes discontinued it for a bit to work on NonePiece, but has since put NonePiece on hold to finish Codement (last I heard).

Well, last I watched it was 2012 lol so Guess I got some catching up to do.
Screw Finals, its Anime Time

Oh god I'm going to watch all of those now. And so the mithril pebble of pig smiting came to be forged upon the mountains of... oh god please just stop...continues on till sunset. Bwahaha.

 GrimDork wrote:
Oh god I'm going to watch all of those now. And so the mithril pebble of pig smiting came to be forged upon the mountains of... oh god please just stop...continues on till sunset. Bwahaha.

I'm just saying. What's the point of other people but to mock them?

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Did you watch the most recent one? It's pretty good.

Yes it was great. This version of the Kirito x Asuna romance is much more entertaining than the original one

Ghost stories is like watching an abridged Anime with higher production value.
God I love this Anime. Too bad it is only 20ep

Anvildude wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:

 darkcloud92 wrote:
Oh god Gundam Wing was so awful story wise, at least the mech designs were cool.
The only good thing about G Gundam was actually "This hand of mine glows with an awesome power! Its burning grip tells me to defeat you! take this! My love, my anger, and all me sorrow! shining finger sword!"

Wait.. how was that a good thing? I could never watch any of the "finger" attacks and not take them out of context.

That's the best part!

The reason we all love G Gundam isn't because it's some super-serious take on a post-apocalyptic planet under fear of the Mech Fights the colonial Bourgeoisie use their homes for to determine who gets to put their name on the Bill of Expensive Things We Have and You Don't first.

It's because it's insane, and out-there, and just takes ideas and runs with them. One of the Gundams is a windmill for crying out loud, and another's a shark!

It's like why we love Gurenn Lagann, or Kill La Kill. They're taking the idea of drama and action in a character-based show, and pushing it about as far as animation can push it without going into abstraction or expressionism.

That's exactly why I don't like G Gundam or any of those types of shows like Gurenn Lagann or KLK lol

 LordofHats wrote:
A bit disappointed we have to wait till Christmas for the next episode of Hellsing Abridged.

But in Commemoration of this tragedy, I offer my Favorite Abridged Series' to tide over my Abridged Series cravings.

DBZA, Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged, and Hellsing Abridged withstanding. Although in DBZA news, they just released their abridged version of Super Android 13.

SAO Abridged by Something Witty Entertainment is probably my favorite abridged series period. I love the idea of portraying Kirito as an Internet Troll and the players of SAO as people actually from the Internet instead of... wherever the original author wrote them to be from. Plus the series involves real character development and plot, going beyond merely mocking its parent series' laughable aspects.

50% Off by Octopimp, an Abridged series of the Anime Free that basically runs itself entirely on gay jokes and the awesome power of Thugisa.

Code MENT by PurpleEyesWTF. It's more like South Park using the basic plot of Code Geass and footage but it's just funny.

Honorable Mention; NonePiece, also by PurpleEyesWTF.

Yeah, SAOA is pretty good.
I generally find most Abridged shows to be gak, but SAOA is surprisingly good.
Their Kirito is such an donkey-cave, I love it
So yeah, SWE and TFS are the only abrigded series makers I can stand.

Antfish is ok, but he hardly makes anything now and his writing is hit or miss. Dio sounding like Tim Curry was pretty funny though.
I found PurpleEyesWTF to be unbearable.

 darkcloud92 wrote:

Anvildude wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:

 darkcloud92 wrote:
Oh god Gundam Wing was so awful story wise, at least the mech designs were cool.
The only good thing about G Gundam was actually "This hand of mine glows with an awesome power! Its burning grip tells me to defeat you! take this! My love, my anger, and all me sorrow! shining finger sword!"

Wait.. how was that a good thing? I could never watch any of the "finger" attacks and not take them out of context.

That's the best part!

The reason we all love G Gundam isn't because it's some super-serious take on a post-apocalyptic planet under fear of the Mech Fights the colonial Bourgeoisie use their homes for to determine who gets to put their name on the Bill of Expensive Things We Have and You Don't first.

It's because it's insane, and out-there, and just takes ideas and runs with them. One of the Gundams is a windmill for crying out loud, and another's a shark!

It's like why we love Gurenn Lagann, or Kill La Kill. They're taking the idea of drama and action in a character-based show, and pushing it about as far as animation can push it without going into abstraction or expressionism.

That's exactly why I don't like G Gundam or any of those types of shows like Gurenn Lagann or KLK lol

Same here, can't stand klk or gurenn lagann. Haven't watched g gundam since I was a kid.

I've found there are kind of two types of anime fans. Some love the goofy stuff, and others stick to the more serious stuff. A lot of people I know who don't care for anime do so because someone tried to get them to watch gurenn lagann or similar without realize that's not everyone's thing. If they'd shown them Ghost in the Shell or something instead, they'd've had a lot more success. Goofy over the top is not everyone's thing, no matter how well written its fans claim it to be.

I find that my interest comes in moods. Sometimes I'll be wanting something more cerebral, sometimes I want something a little more hot-blooded.

True it really depends on the persons personality and what genre of anime you show them. Most people tend to think of anime as over the top goofy action ecchi series so they are instantly against the idea of ever watching any of it.
I'd say I mostly stick to series shows, but I'll occasionally watch a purely comedic series if it's with other people. I just don't find comedic stuff, anime or not, as fun when other people aren't in on the jokes

Just watched Gundam Unicorn....I was not impressed. It started out allright, but the last episode basically lost all narrative coherency, kind of like the weird "twist" in 0083 where it turns out Uraki and Gato were into the same woman, but like 20,000x worse, because 0083 was overall pretty excellent.

 Vaktathi wrote:
Just watched Gundam Unicorn....I was not impressed. It started out allright, but the last episode basically lost all narrative coherency, kind of like the weird "twist" in 0083 where it turns out Uraki and Gato were into the same woman, but like 20,000x worse, because 0083 was overall pretty excellent.

heresy

Eh, the thing just stopped making any sort of sense by the end for a host of reasons. I mean, it had its moment's, but the last episode was just incoherent, disconnected, and poorly wrapped up that it just fell apart.

 LordofHats wrote:

 GrimDork wrote:
Oh god I'm going to watch all of those now. And so the mithril pebble of pig smiting came to be forged upon the mountains of... oh god please just stop...continues on till sunset. Bwahaha.

I'm just saying. What's the point of other people but to mock them?

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The idea of Asuna kicking Kirito's ass made me feel better than it should

She's the only person in SAOA that he's even remotely scared of

 Vaktathi wrote:
Eh, the thing just stopped making any sort of sense by the end for a host of reasons. I mean, it had its moment's, but the last episode was just incoherent, disconnected, and poorly wrapped up that it just fell apart.

Weird I felt it made sense all the way through the final episode.

What do you think it failed to wrap up? The conflict between Anaheim Electronics and the Vist foundation ended when Banagher stopped that Colony beam. The conflict between Banagher and Full Frontal ended, albeit in an anti-climactic fashion. The only thing that they didn't wrap up was the conflict between spacenoids and Earth because while we as viewers have plenty of proof that newtypes are a space adapted race, the citizens in the show don't have the proof we do. Also, Gundam Crossbone is still a thing, and takes place in the same timeline, so they couldn't wrap up everything.

I think Unicorn's ending made sense but it was certainly anti-climatic (that's a common issue for a lot of anime though imo).

 LordofHats wrote:
She's the only person in SAOA that he's even remotely scared of

Well yeah, she's a complete Yandere

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
Eh, the thing just stopped making any sort of sense by the end for a host of reasons. I mean, it had its moment's, but the last episode was just incoherent, disconnected, and poorly wrapped up that it just fell apart.

Weird I felt it made sense all the way through the final episode.

What do you think it failed to wrap up? The conflict between Anaheim Electronics and the Vist foundation ended when Banagher stopped that Colony beam. The conflict between Banagher and Full Frontal ended, albeit in an anti-climactic fashion. The only thing that they didn't wrap up was the conflict between spacenoids and Earth because while we as viewers have plenty of proof that newtypes are a space adapted race, the citizens in the show don't have the proof we do. Also, Gundam Crossbone is still a thing, and takes place in the same timeline, so they couldn't wrap up everything.

They never really clarify what Full Frontal was all about, his whole character is extremely nebulous and his motives appear absurdly trivial for how "deep" they try to make him or why he so strongly just *needs* to fight Banagher to the death over a difference in his economic blockade idea vs other ideas to accomplish the same goal. Then you have Riddhe, who basically goes off on a murderous rampage...because a 16 year old girl rejects a 23 year old man? And then suddenly he gets over that and everyone just accepts him back like normal after all the crazy gak he did? Then you get into the Unicorn itself, and how it suddenly sprouts Crystals, and the plot veers super strong onto this "divine newtype power" that can block gigantic particle cannons at the last minute, and all sorts of other similar things.

Likewise, with the "Box" itself...the clause at the center of the whole thing...they never explain why it was removed to become a scandal in the first place, and, more oddly, how there somehow was *zero* memory of this clause anywhere else but on a monument? Nobody made data backups, the clause wasn't discussed in endless committees by thousands of people, nobody else had heard or seen this clause except right before it was lasered onto a monument? Really?

The whole thing just came off very poorly thought out. To use my previous example of 0083, aside from the weird forced relationship triangle forced into the last episode, it had a very coherent story, they tie it directly into events both before and after, linking the original series directly to Zeta Gundam, the goals and plans of everyone are eventually made rather clear, even when there's tiwsts (such as Cima's betrayal or the directing of the dropping Colony to Luna initially only to be deflected back at earth) there's usually a good sense of *why* they happen and what their purpose is.

Show still had one of the coolest suits ever though.

Oh it definitely had some cool designs, the Sinanju, Geara Zulu, artillery Geara Doga's, and the ReZel all were super cool looking.

Definitely have to give it that.

 Vaktathi wrote:
They never really clarify what Full Frontal was all about, his whole character is extremely nebulous and his motives appear absurdly trivial for how "deep" they try to make him or why he so strongly just *needs* to fight Banagher to the death over a difference in his economic blockade idea vs other ideas to accomplish the same goal.

Full Frontal was a clone of Char, which gives him some level of "I am doing these things because it benefit humanity" but when he starts to refer to himself as a vessel, he gets weirdly nebulous you're right, but his actions are "his thoughts" and he believes for the entire series that the Box is a weapon which will allow Neo-Zeon to resurrect and be a full government in such a way that Earth cannot compete (he explains as much on the ship when he finds the last location of the Box's coordinates. Banagher and Zabi want people to know the box exists so that humanity can make the decision they want to make. FF wants to fight Banagher due to the fact that Banagher's ideas would allow Earth to remain viable.

Then you have Riddhe, who basically goes off on a murderous rampage...because a 16 year old girl rejects a 23 year old man? And then suddenly he gets over that and everyone just accepts him back like normal after all the crazy gak he did?

His rage is due to his family's involvement with the Box and the fact that Zabi, someone who ahould understand his plifht rejected him. His rage is amplified due to the nature of the Psychoframe throughout the Banshee Norn, which feeds off the emotions of the pilot (see Marida when she piloted it, and Banagher in tje Unicorn when he fought againat thr suit activsting the NT-D. His change goes back to the death of Marida Cruz. She, having awoken her newtype potential got to give people a final goodbye. She calmed him down, but the Arghama accepting him back without incident is weak writing I'll admit, but I guess it was just a simple fact they needed allies.

Then you get into the Unicorn itself, and how it suddenly sprouts Crystals, and the plot veers super strong onto this "divine newtype power" that can block gigantic particle cannons at the last minute, and all sorts of other similar things.

the only thing I can attribute the crystals to is an overloading of the unicorn's psycoframe, which makes sense since the frame amplifies thoughts, and an awoken newtype like Banagher could probably overload the system, but they missed out on just killing Banagher there (though they almost did)

Likewise, with the "Box" itself...the clause at the center of the whole thing...they never explain why it was removed to become a scandal in the first place, and, more oddly, how there somehow was *zero* memory of this clause anywhere else but on a monument? Nobody made data backups, the clause wasn't discussed in endless committees by thousands of people, nobody else had heard or seen this clause except right before it was lasered onto a monument? Really?

This could have been better thought out, but here's why it makes sense: Earth sent people to space to depopulate the planet, those that went up in space were considered second class citizens, and Earth ruled over them to the point of oppression (This allowed factions like Zeon to rise). People in space begin to hate Earth and eventually we get the One Year War. The clause's existence basically said "Hey we're sorry for doing this to you, but if our gakky actions lead you all to having a space adapted species of humanity, you get priority in the government" This was signed and ratified, making it legal. By revealing the original charter, it would remove the legitimacy of the Federation, and even more so if they could prove Newtypes were a space adapted version of humanity. This would allow the colonies to create their own governments, and would keep Zeon around as a full government beyond the 100UC mark. Why no one had memory of the charter? Can't say, unless everyone involved was on the Laplace when it blew up at the beginning of the series.

Apparently this all gets fleshed out a bit more in the manga the OVA is based on. The Laplace incident (the terrorism attack in the beginning of the series) was carried out by Syam Vist at the request of George Marcenas (Riddhe's grandfather?) basically to kill Ricardo Marcenas, first PM of the Federation, and to put a pro-Earth government in place. With the original charter gone, George replaced all versions of it with the one missing the last article from the original charter. If Syam had not found the original charter, this series would never have happened lol.

Also, sorry if it sounds like I'm arguing with you, I just didn't get to discuss Unicorn much when I finished it a few weeks ago, so this is the first time I've been able to kinda purge all this info. Sorry you didn't like it, but you like 0083, so you can't have terrible tastes in Gundam shows

I can definitely agree that the ending was less spectacular than I was hopping, from a story standpoint at least. The action in the finale, and throughout the whole series was phenomenal! But I was hopping for more story, like they needed more episodes. Still better than 90% of the Gundam series made though. If I had to make a top few it would be
08th MS Team
Gundam Unicorn
Gundam Seed/Seed Destiny
0083 Stardust Memories

We'll wait on Iron Blooded Orphans to see if it can place

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
They never really clarify what Full Frontal was all about, his whole character is extremely nebulous and his motives appear absurdly trivial for how "deep" they try to make him or why he so strongly just *needs* to fight Banagher to the death over a difference in his economic blockade idea vs other ideas to accomplish the same goal.

Full Frontal was a clone of Char,

Did they explain that somewhere? I may entirely have missed it, I just don't remember that.

which gives him some level of "I am doing these things because it benefit humanity" but when he starts to refer to himself as a vessel, he gets weirdly nebulous you're right, but his actions are "his thoughts" and he believes for the entire series that the Box is a weapon which will allow Neo-Zeon to resurrect and be a full government in such a way that Earth cannot compete (he explains as much on the ship when he finds the last location of the Box's coordinates. Banagher and Zabi want people to know the box exists so that humanity can make the decision they want to make. FF wants to fight Banagher due to the fact that Banagher's ideas would allow Earth to remain viable.

Aye, but ultimately they're both after freedom for the "Spacenoids", it seemed weird that Full Frontal (also...*really* awkward name, was basically expecting him to roll around wearing a helmet and nothing else with a name like that) would be willing to kill Bernargher and Mineva over it when their way could work just as well as his (and, IIRC, he seems to acknowledge as much?), seemingly wanting to fight just for the sake of the fight, which, ok I guess I can understand that, but if just felt really forced, and the resolution of FF/Char's "being" felt...lacking.

Then you have Riddhe, who basically goes off on a murderous rampage...because a 16 year old girl rejects a 23 year old man? And then suddenly he gets over that and everyone just accepts him back like normal after all the crazy gak he did?

His rage is due to his family's involvement with the Box and the fact that Zabi, someone who ahould understand his plifht rejected him. His rage is amplified due to the nature of the Psychoframe throughout the Banshee Norn, which feeds off the emotions of the pilot (see Marida when she piloted it, and Banagher in tje Unicorn when he fought againat thr suit activsting the NT-D. His change goes back to the death of Marida Cruz. She, having awoken her newtype potential got to give people a final goodbye. She calmed him down, but the Arghama accepting him back without incident is weak writing I'll admit, but I guess it was just a simple fact they needed allies.

The whole thing just felt really weird. I mean, I could get him being butthurt maybe, but murderous rampage butthurt? And then everyone just being like "it's cool bro, we're good" was odd, Riddhe came off very poorly as a character.

Then you get into the Unicorn itself, and how it suddenly sprouts Crystals, and the plot veers super strong onto this "divine newtype power" that can block gigantic particle cannons at the last minute, and all sorts of other similar things.

the only thing I can attribute the crystals to is an overloading of the unicorn's psycoframe, which makes sense since the frame amplifies thoughts, and an awoken newtype like Banagher could probably overload the system, but they missed out on just killing Banagher there (though they almost did)

 Vaktathi wrote:
Did they explain that somewhere? I may entirely have missed it, I just don't remember that.

They dance around it in the series. They refer to him as the Seconding Coming of Char, he looks like Char down to the scar he received from Amuro during their swordfight (though in the novel Full Frontal gave himself that scar), but Full Frontal refers to himself as a vessel instead of a person, so he's not really a people, but most likely a clone/Cyber Newtype like Marida. The novel says that Full Frontal is a clone of Char, but the OVA doesn't really go into that information.

Aye, but ultimately they're both after freedom for the "Spacenoids", it seemed weird that Full Frontal (also...*really* awkward name, was basically expecting him to roll around wearing a helmet and nothing else with a name like that) would be willing to kill Bernargher and Mineva over it when their way could work just as well as his (and, IIRC, he seems to acknowledge as much?), seemingly wanting to fight just for the sake of the fight, which, ok I guess I can understand that, but if just felt really forced, and the resolution of FF/Char's "being" felt...lacking.

I agree, I felt like it might have been better had Full Frontal been someone completely new, and not a literal Char clone.

The whole thing just felt really weird. I mean, I could get him being butthurt maybe, but murderous rampage butthurt? And then everyone just being like "it's cool bro, we're good" was odd, Riddhe came off very poorly as a character.

RIddhe was my least favorite character.