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Hi,
So, when I went to my local gaming store to get the Sanguniary Guard last Saturday, I saw a few things that were Finecast (also known as please don't bypass the language filter like this. Reds8n by some). These things included:
Warboss with attack squig
Big mek with kustom force field
Big mek with shokk attack gun.
Here was something I was surprised by:
It was on a sprue.
And here is something I was not surprised by:
It did not look good. the sprue was misshapen (not a perfect square)
I think it was not very good. I think that it was more gak cast than finecast.
What does everyone think about Finecast? I think I should call it gak cast.

Try searching Dakka for the term Failcast, and you'll see the general response.

It has good and bad points, but even GW have 'admitted' that Finecast was a bad idea.

I like them, I have no idea where the hate's from.

 Skinnereal wrote:
Try searching Dakka for the term Failcast, and you'll see the general response.

It has good and bad points, but even GW have 'admitted' that Finecast was a bad idea.

Whoa! Even GW has admitted that Finecast was a bad idea? Maybe this means they'll get rid of it?
And I never knew it could be called Failcast...


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 Matthew wrote:
I like them, I have no idea where the hate's from.

Why do you like them?

Finecast is no longer in production. Waaaay too many problems with the casting. And they dont even take paint as well as the plastic.

So while you can still get older models in finescast, nothing new will be produced in finecast anymore.

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
Try searching Dakka for the term Failcast, and you'll see the general response.

It has good and bad points, but even GW have 'admitted' that Finecast was a bad idea.

Whoa! Even GW has admitted that Finecast was a bad idea? Maybe this means they'll get rid of it?
And I never knew it could be called Failcast...


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 Matthew wrote:
I like them, I have no idea where the hate's from.

Why do you like them?

Good looking models. Belial, Typhus et cetera.

Please see earlier comment with regards to language.

Reds8n

I prefer plastic but I've found the way people talk about it is like comparing a small breeze to a tornado.

pm713 wrote:
I prefer plastic but I've found the way people talk about it is like comparing a small breeze to a tornado.

OK.

They dropped the FineCast name and went with finely detailed resin cast kit instead.

It seems to have been hit or miss for a lot of people but for me the vast majority of my purchases with Finecast have actually been pretty good. Like the other resin kits I've gotten before I needed to clean some flash but otherwise there wasn't any excess warpage or disfigurement. In fact I recently got a Kaptin Badrukk figure with the extra special ammo runts and they all came in great condition.

All of my Finecast kits have been excellent.

 Chute82 wrote:
They dropped the FineCast name and went with finely detailed resin cast kit instead.

Oh, so they still have finecast under a different name?
God !

Thats marketing stuff. They already made all of the Finecast so they still have to sell it all. So to call it finely details is just stating an opinion that will give you the impression that it is worth buying.

I liked how my assault chaplain's backpack came with "battle damage" and was missing a huge chunk of the top. That's forging some narrative right there.

 MWHistorian wrote:
I liked how my assault chaplain's backpack came with "battle damage" and was missing a huge chunk of the top. That's forging some narrative right there.

Haha nice. My PF chaplain came with a huge extra block of resin melded in to his right leg. Forging the narrative, it looks like he is tripping over a rock!

I have two kits in Finecast (Astorath and Masters of the Chapter) and both are solid. Sure, the sprue may be warped but the parts of the model itself are fine and only slightly worse than FW casts (although the material is not as good).
Both kits are not older than 1 year, I think the bad reputation is from the beginning of Finecast.

 Icculus wrote:
Thats marketing stuff. They already made all of the Finecast so they still have to sell it all. So to call it finely details is just stating an opinion that will give you the impression that it is worth buying.

But is it really worth buying?

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:

 Icculus wrote:
Thats marketing stuff. They already made all of the Finecast so they still have to sell it all. So to call it finely details is just stating an opinion that will give you the impression that it is worth buying.

But is it really worth buying?

That's up to you isn't it? Also since it's a case by case basis, then if they look bad to you then don't buy it. Have you ever assembled resin kits before?

You get to keep returning it until you are happy with the model. They seem to let you do that no matter the reason.
So, there will be a lot of 2nds out on the shelves, that people have already rejected, as they've got to get them sold.

If you buy from a store, ask to look at the parts before you accept them. It'll save time later.

All my finecast models have been awful, they have been replaced free of charge by my local store though.

Had to open a couple of boxes before combining kits to get a decent model for my Autarch. Very poor casting and quality control.

The few things I've bought in finecast have been solid, although from what I understand the earlier stuff was terrible.

But is it really worth buying?

Well it is if the kit you want only comes in Finecast surely?
As stated, check the pack/kit first. If its a poor quality one, bung it back to GW and get another.

For all the horror stories out there, I guess I have been quite lucky with FC. I've only had a few minis (Dante, Astorath, Njal and a Lord Commissar) but they've all been fine. Just check the mini first in the store, and you shouldn't have a huge problem; if it's bad, don't buy it.

I've never gotten a bad kit except a Warp Spider box that was missing 1 guy, I called GW and they sent me a sprue of two guys! Super happy about that. My only complaint about Finecast is that they warp in the heat, and my Eldar army kinda... Has a lot of finecast in it, so I can't leave it in my car ready to rock after work.

Early Finecast had its problems.
The quality has improved, the resin changed. It's been very good the past two years at least. Detail is far sharper to any plastic/metal model. Yet the hate remains.

Sprue wasn't a perfect square? Honestly, that doesn't matter at all. It's resin, it bends when warm. Bent sprues happen. Who cares about the frame anyway?
If any of the model is bent, a bit of heat will sort it. I can see how they'd put off beginners, but the quality is excellent on them. It's now very rare to get a poor Finecast. And if you do, they replace it.

 grendel083 wrote:
Early Finecast had its problems.
The quality has improved, the resin changed. It's been very good the past two years at least. Detail is far sharper to any plastic/metal model. Yet the hate remains.

Sprue wasn't a perfect square? Honestly, that doesn't matter at all. It's resin, it bends when warm. Bent sprues happen. Who cares about the frame anyway?
If any of the model is bent, a bit of heat will sort it. I can see how they'd put off beginners, but the quality is excellent on them. It's now very rare to get a poor Finecast. And if you do, they replace it.

OK, i will keep that in mind when I buy finecast (if I ever buy finecast)
Thanks all!

 Paradigm wrote:
For all the horror stories out there, I guess I have been quite lucky with FC. I've only had a few minis (Dante, Astorath, Njal and a Lord Commissar) but they've all been fine. Just check the mini first in the store, and you shouldn't have a huge problem; if it's bad, don't buy it.

My experience is almost the exact opposite, Rakarth, a DE Haemy, a set of Wracks and a Termie Librarian, all with issues to a greater or lesser degree.

That said, I do think that a lot of the issues are historical and there may be an argument that current stuff isn't so bad (I sold my DE more than two years ago, to suggest a time frame for my experiences) but bridges have been burned for me, and I'm more likely to kitbash or seek out an alternate third party than buy FC now.

Heck, I'd even consider regular resin or metal from China before buying original FC.

I have had a couple of good casts but have subsequently found over the past year or so that the casts have warped inside the miniature case (standard GW cases with GW foam by the way). Both Illic Nightspear's rifle barrel and Draigo's banner both warped and bent due to light pressure from foam so I'm not impressed. I ended up having to replace Illic's rifle barrel with a similar shaped plastic one as trying to bend the original back into shape ended up snapping it at a join.

The only finecast model I own is a terminator librarian, and he's.... okay. There was one small bubble on his foot that was easy enough to cover, but his staff was near unusable. Had basically turned into a limp worm. Fortunately, I had already planned on swapping it out for an axe, so this wasn't an issue. Don't plan on buying any again unless I desperately have to. Fingers crossed they come out with Sammael in plastic.