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It probably is Ahriman. He is well known for seeking out The Black Library.

Bringing the image over for new page/discussion sake.


Yeah I worded that a bit stupidly. I mean the Sorcerer on the right is the same design as the current one and that Ahriman looks the same.

I'd love this to be a thing. It'd give me some incentive to finish my Greater Daemon.

Or it's Ahriman's sorcerer bodyguard.

Perhaps the Campaign will be based around an attempt by Ahriman to get to the Black Library that features SM, Sisters and Harlequins. Perhaps it even starts the end times equivalent of 40k...

 Medium of Death wrote:
Perhaps the Campaign will be based around an attempt by Ahriman to get to the Black Library that features SM, Sisters and Harlequins. Perhaps it even starts the end times equivalent of 40k...

Sure... it'll probably be released right after the Blood Angels vs. Orks quick-fit starter-box with Ork-themed terrain that was the last boxed set rumoured by BoLS. Is that still a thing, actually? Or did they admit to fething that one up?

Seriously.... the themes and all sound fun and all..... but it's a rumour from BoLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I herd a rumor that SoB fans are all part of a cruel and cynical social experiment
where they are fed with new promises every month, just to see how long it takes for them to turn from initial
scepsism to irrational and desperate acceptance that the promises, surely, will come true this time.

 Fayric wrote:
Well, I herd a rumor that SoB fans are all part of a cruel and cynical social experiment
where they are fed with new promises every month, just to see how long it takes for them to turn from initial
scepsism to irrational and desperate acceptance that the promises, surely, will come true this time.

Perhaps. But who's behind the experiment? It sure as hell isn't GW.

Wonderwolf wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
Well, I herd a rumor that SoB fans are all part of a cruel and cynical social experiment
where they are fed with new promises every month, just to see how long it takes for them to turn from initial
scepsism to irrational and desperate acceptance that the promises, surely, will come true this time.

Perhaps. But who's behind the experiment? It sure as hell isn't GW.

Sisters players themselves. It's the only explanation.

SoB players will get their time in the sun eventually. Just like the DE did. How many times did people write them off; and yet they returned with one of the best models from GW?!

Also, I'd love this campain to be a thing, mainly because of the thousand sons; I fear though that it will take the course of most BLOS rumors.

 Darkseid wrote:
SoB players will get their time in the sun eventually. Just like the DE did. How many times did people write them off; and yet they returned with one of the best models from GW?!.

That's the point. Of course they'll arrive eventually.

But just like Dark Eldar during their long stretch, you're not doing yourself a favour by getting your hopes up everytime BoLS/Natfka publish another click-bait-fairy-tale.

They fooled you once, they fooled you twice, they fooled you a million times. And you still believe? They'll just keep milking you for clicks until ... eventually, inevitably ... they will be right at some point (by pure happenstance) after being wrong a thousand times.

No even half-way credible rumour-guy has thus far even hinted at Sisters. Nobody with a half-reasonable track record came out to support that Tzeentch-box-thing. It's an utterly isolated rumour on BoLS (and Natfka) and only there.

Hell, BoLS actually has a record of disputing rumours that turned out to be true, as when 40K Radio said there would be a 7th Edition without a new snap-fit starter box, BoLS directly retaliated saying there would only be no 7th Edition but a new snap-fit starter-box and some weird "living-rules"-thingy.

I would like to point out that for whatever reason this past week along with alllll the recently flying sisters rumors, Forgeworld has removed their version of the SoB Exorcist from their site which is.. curious, to say the least, considering how long it's been up for sale. Even the years out of stock Repressor is still up but suddenly the exorcist is gone? That has to strike more than just me as a little bit odd.

 Chapter Master Angelos wrote:
I would like to point out that for whatever reason this past week along with alllll the recently flying sisters rumors, Forgeworld has removed their version of the SoB Exorcist from their site which is.. curious, to say the least, considering how long it's been up for sale. Even the years out of stock Repressor is still up but suddenly the exorcist is gone? That has to strike more than just me as a little bit odd.

Not really. Most of the time when FW take something down it's because the moulds have worn out, and it'll either be back later once they make new moulds from the masters or go into limbo if the work of making new moulds is too high relative to the sales the kit got.

 Darkseid wrote:
SoB players will get their time in the sun eventually. Just like the DE did. How many times did people write them off; and yet they returned with one of the best models from GW?!

There are far less similarities between the Dark Eldar and the Sisters as people often think/suggest.

Dark Eldar were an army that didn't even exist in the lore until 3rd Edition. They were created solely because people kept asking for Chaos Eldar. And kept showing up at the GTs and placing well in Golden Daemons with Chaos Eldar conversion armies. They had a built in demand. They sold really well when 3rd Edition debuted. Their failure as an army was having lackluster models and lackluster rules. All GW had to do was redesign them and give them a good book, and they knew people would want them.

Sisters, on the other hand, were released around the same time as the Necrons, had a similar number of models in the range. But Necrons became a real army, and the Sisters did not. GW packaged them with another army to try to stimulate sales, gave them an expanded model range with vehicles and special characters. And they still didn't become a real army because they haven't had a mass-market print codex since 3rd, and you didn't even need any Sisters of Battle to play with that codex, lol.

I'd guess the Sisters' sluggish and lackluster support stems from the fact that GW didn't believe there was enough demand to suit the investment. Dark Eldar, on the other hand, were a property with a known market segment and a known demand. They weren't successful because they got new models and rules. They were successful because they got new models and rules and people already wanted them.


That said, on topic, there's no way a 40K boxed "starter" set appears that doesn't have Space Marines in it. Has never happened, and never will. That's how you know this rumor is bogus, lol.

2nd: Marines vs Orks
3rd: Marines vs Deldar
BfM: Marines vs Nids
AoBR: Marines vs Orks
DV: Marines vs Chaos
SRSC: Marines vs Orks
SoB: Marines vs Nids

Space Marines are too important to the business model at this point. If they can sell some more Orks/Chaos/Tyranids/whatever, cool. But they know they can sell Space Marines. Notice how the Space Marines are always better than their counterpart in the boxed set? Its not like that's an accident, lol.

Necrons went plastic in 3rd, Sisters did not. I'm going to say that was a major factor.

Additionally, the rumor doesn't say Sisters are in the box, they say they're in the campaign (they were in Shield of Baal but weren't in the box). It's be a pretty good time to splash release new kits for Sisters (along with some new rules) if they wanted to break a Sisters release into smaller chunks.

this is probably the least credible rumour ever.

 streetsamurai wrote:
this is probably the least credible rumour ever.

No, Plastic Thunderhawk holds that honor forever.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
this is probably the least credible rumour ever.

No, Plastic Thunderhawk holds that honor forever.

Actually, that honor goes to any rumor claiming plastic SOB models... sorry girls.

Considering that we just had a plastic Harlequin release containing multiple new kits, I am almost willing to believe this. It would fit GWs current MO to release SoB as similar minor faction as Tempestus and Harlequins.

 Crimson wrote:
Considering that we just had a plastic Harlequin release containing multiple new kits, I am almost willing to believe this. It would fit GWs current MO to release SoB as similar minor faction as Tempestus and Harlequins.

Except we've had rumour-people more credible than BoLS saying they'll do just that in the early summer with AdMech.

Two minor imperial factions in the same quarter? Doubtful. Impossible, if Sisters are supposed to be part of a longer campaign not involving AdMech.

At the very least, I think there's a rumour-conflict between either Sisters or AdMech.

 Kosake wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
this is probably the least credible rumour ever.

No, Plastic Thunderhawk holds that honor forever.

Actually, that honor goes to any rumor claiming plastic SOB models... sorry girls.

So plastic T-Hawk and plastic sisters as a bundle?

I'd be in.

The thing that really makes this rumor sound wrong is:
-GW dont use campaign boxes to introduce a new model range.
-GW wouldnt make all those new models for a limited release.
-Rumors of the previous campaignboxes did not leak until just before release.
-Campaign boxes are used to push dead weight old models in a pre/post codex bliss, neither sob of tzeench has that kind of range to put in a camp box.

However, I base this on no more than 2 previous releases, so its hardly a pattern.
Who knows what GW is up to. I could be wrong.

 Fayric wrote:
The thing that really makes this rumor sound wrong is:
-GW dont use campaign boxes to introduce a new model range.
-GW wouldnt make all those new models for a limited release.
-Rumors of the previous campaignboxes did not leak until just before release.
-Campaign boxes are used to push dead weight old models in a pre/post codex bliss, neither sob of tzeench has that kind of range to put in a camp box.

However, I base this on no more than 2 previous releases, so its hardly a pattern.
Who knows what GW is up to. I could be wrong.

Well, for starters, we don't have any specifics on the models. Demons across the board look pretty dated and quite ugly (not in the good sense). So even if the Tzeench part is just some redone existing units, that might be an option.
Then there are some units that are unique to starters - the deffcopters from AOBR for instance. I know there's that Gorkamorka-survivor single model, but I think it's safe to say that it's not really a viable option if you want to field more than 1 deffcopter. CSM chosen from DV. Hell, campaign boxes contained unique miniatures - that SW character, Grukk, Genestealer-Broodlord...
And speaking of limitted releases - remember that SM captain that came with orders of 100 GBP and above? That's as limitted as you can get I'd say.
And finally, as of yet, no-one said there'd be SoB models in the campaign kit so far. Talk was along the lines of SM vs Tzeench, iirc. There's surely some SM kits that GW would like to get rid of and with Nurgle and Khorne receiving some love in fantasy at the moment, that might mean that Tzeench and Slaanesh might get their new shinies in 40k, one coming with the new dex and the other with a campaign release. There would be some sense in that, when done right I guess.

Again, we're speaking about GW so any logical course of action is highly questionable.

Might as well also claim this is coming out on April 1st.. It's a total April Fools joke to think that GW would give any attention to Tzeentch OR Sisters. Both of them? Come on lol.

More likely it'll be a Khorne/Nurgle supplement with Ultramarines as the protagonists

We can dream.

The greatest Tzeentch gift recently has been that artwork from the Harlequin book.

 Medium of Death wrote:
We can dream.

The greatest Tzeentch gift recently has been that artwork from the Harlequin book.

Of course you can dream.

But it would seem prudent to keep dreams/speculations/wishes/tongue-in-cheek-GW-business-discussion separate from information/news/rumours leaked from the studio.

The whole dilemma of the "click-bait-rumour-mongers" is that they care little for the accuracy of rumours and probably make more ad-revenues by catering to player-dreams with made-up gak.

Is that Harlequin in the picture vaulting over a Flamer of Tzeentch?
That seems like a surefire way to get your hand mutated into something unmentionable.

 1hadhq wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
this is probably the least credible rumour ever.

No, Plastic Thunderhawk holds that honor forever.

Actually, that honor goes to any rumor claiming plastic SOB models... sorry girls.

So plastic T-Hawk and plastic sisters as a bundle?

I'd be in.

There have been plastic SOB models (Immo), but never a plastic thunderhawk.

 pretre wrote:

 1hadhq wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
this is probably the least credible rumour ever.

No, Plastic Thunderhawk holds that honor forever.

Actually, that honor goes to any rumor claiming plastic SOB models... sorry girls.

So plastic T-Hawk and plastic sisters as a bundle?

I'd be in.

There have been plastic SOB models (Immo), but never a plastic thunderhawk.

The rhino part of the repressor kit is probably plastic. Other than that? Can't think of any.

 Fayric wrote:
The thing that really makes this rumor sound wrong is:
-GW dont use campaign boxes to introduce a new model range.
-GW wouldnt make all those new models for a limited release.
-Rumors of the previous campaignboxes did not leak until just before release.
-Campaign boxes are used to push dead weight old models in a pre/post codex bliss, neither sob of tzeench has that kind of range to put in a camp box.

However, I base this on no more than 2 previous releases, so its hardly a pattern.
Who knows what GW is up to. I could be wrong.

If there's one thing GW is good at, it's getting into a "pattern" and then utterly and completely violating it by going to a new "pattern" without any notice.

The hopes and dreams of SoB players destined to be crushed every time they talk themselves into thinking there going to get a release.

It's amusing to watch at first but after a couple of years it starts to get sad.