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 pretre wrote:
And they just shot down HH plastics...

And Hastings just killed the End Times speculation.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Well the 18th month timeline rumor has some weight I guess:
Lords of War Gaming wrote: Sisters of Battle are not coming out this year.

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ANNNNND I have someone saying saying they're outright wrong.

At this point I'm more entertained by the back and forth than I am about the possibility of Sisters.

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Joy. Here's where I set aside all the rumor sites for about a month and come back once the next thing has actually released and people have their stuff together.

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drbored wrote:
Joy. Here's where I set aside all the rumor sites for about a month and come back once the next thing has actually released and people have their stuff together.

See you all next month!

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 pretre wrote:
And they just shot down HH plastics...

See, this is where I agree with CWZion. They shot down HH plastics in may. More precisely, he said that people calling HH plastics in May are way off.

What does that mean exactly? No HH plastics? Yes plastics, just not in May?

Just like Lords of War Gaming saying that "People waiting for Sisters are going to be disappointed". It's a vague statement open to interpretation.
   
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 Dentry wrote:
 pretre wrote:
And they just shot down HH plastics...

See, this is where I agree with CWZion. They shot down HH plastics in may. More precisely, he said that people calling HH plastics in May are way off.

What does that mean exactly? No HH plastics? Yes plastics, just not in May?

Just like Lords of War Gaming saying that "People waiting for Sisters are going to be disappointed". It's a vague statement open to interpretation.

Exactly. And getting details out of them is like pulling teeth. I get that they don't want to dump too much at once but sometimes you need to be a little more exacting in your word choice.
   
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75hastings69;7385826 wrote:Not Maybe

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Then separately DA & Tzeentch type stuff. Oh but don't rule out the missing GDs etc. they're all done


Just drop this in here.
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
I do get REALLY tired of that mentality too. Just because some rumors have been bad in the past (and when you go back and look there haven't been that many instances of "plastic sisters" rumors as the hyperbole states, and each time they've been around the time of a release which has been on point thus far for when it comes out) doesn't mean all rumors are automatically false or that we should reject every possibility without at least considering what is being said. This isn't 40k and as such a closed mind is not a virtue.


I'd rather be skeptical of rumors than disappointed when truth has its way of bringing ones high hopes crashing down. I would rather be pleasantly surprised when something you want to be true actually IS true rather than crushed when what you want has been rehashed, repackaged and spread about again by the rumor mill. Is that close minded?

That being said, I have never rejected a possible rumor without at least considering what is being said, and who is saying it.

Seems rumors say that the Tzeentch Campaign may indeed be coming, but won't have Sisters tagging along? Is this thread done?


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Until we have something a bit more concrete, I'd say yes this thread's done.

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Or they're going to make a one shot boxed game (like Space Hulk) in the Horus Heresy setting with plastic pieces?

Hopefully better than the FFG Horus Heresy game. That was miserable.

 
   
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I don't think this sort of rumour warrants much merrett... I mean merit.


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
75hastings69;7385826 wrote:Not Maybe

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Then separately DA & Tzeentch type stuff. Oh but don't rule out the missing GDs etc. they're all done


Just drop this in here.


Wait, WHAT?!? Hastings said this?

Oh boy.

Before I freak out, I'm gonna head over to Warseer and see for myself.

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Wow.

Hastings named them specifically, and is pointing at a Harlequin-sized release. The obvious minis would be the Patriarch/BL, Magus, Hybrids, and Limo. Done. It also sounds like some of the releases he mentioned could be as far away as 2016. So they might not be imminent. Still.

Um. Wow. Having a hard time processing this. And I have many questions about what form they will take in terms of their interface with the Tyranid and IG codicies and material. But happy days are ahead! I never thought it'd happen.

Edit: When this happens, I'm gonna have to send the studio a gift basket or something. I'm not even kidding.

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This made me laugh ...

'No ...never going to happen ... pass the salt'

Hastings said this....

Brief pause ....

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Hardly a surprise considering the amount and quality of rumours going around, being that you, Hastings are some of the few who are known to be reliable.

That being said I'm actually spiked for the HH and the Assassin's game, though I would also like to see Necromunda and Gorkamorka... And Inq28.

Oh, and 'Huzzah!'

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 Destrado wrote:
Hardly a surprise considering the amount and quality of rumours going around, being that you, Hastings are some of the few who are known to be reliable.

That being said I'm actually spiked for the HH and the Assassin's game, though I would also like to see Necromunda and Gorkamorka... And Inq28.

Oh, and 'Huzzah!'


Yeah...Harry, you have to admit there's TONS of noise out there, and a good portion of it is completely invented in the name of blog clicks.

People trust you guys, and that changes the whole game.

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Is it normal that a 31 years old man can't sleep after reading these glorious rumours, cause he's way too excited ?

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 streetsamurai wrote:
Is it normal that a 31 years old man can't sleep after reading these glorious rumours, cause he's way too excited ?


Nope


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 streetsamurai wrote:
Is it normal that a 31 years old man can't sleep after reading these glorious rumours, cause he's way too excited ?


Nope indeed. A 31 years old should have been long enough around to not believe every rumor, even the very nice ones. As Harry pointed out in the other thread, even if a rumor is 105% accurate at the time of posting, GW can have a mind-change mid-production and retire the whole project months before it could see the light.

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Wait, Hastings is back on the scene? I thought he bowed out long ago?? Sorry for OT but has he said anything about the WFB rumours?
   
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overtyrant wrote:
Wait, Hastings is back on the scene? I thought he bowed out long ago?? Sorry for OT but has he said anything about the WFB rumours?

Yep. His first rumors since Nov that I know of.

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Space Marine Rumors - Feb 2015
Enough with the mk 9 armour. I've stated please DO NOT ASSOCIATE ANY OF THIS WITH MK9 ARMOUR. I have heard no such thing, and it has nothing to do with anything on this thread. IF there is mk9 armour it's something totally different to what's on this thread, or are we deliberately trying to merge all the rumours back into one large blob?

Warhammer 40k Rumors - Feb 2015

via Hastings on Warseer in response to above
This is partially true. The "starter set" is in fact a standalone game, however I'll accept starter set as it does lead onto the main 30k game. I think it's safe to assume that 30k could/will have a different game mechanic to 40k, or it would be pretty pointless as a standalone game. Hence the reason that some boxes will contain rules for both 30 & 40k (if the rules weren't different they'd only include 1 set of rules.

It's not however a safety net for WFB, it's a replacement for lotr/hobbit on the shelves as AFAIK all of this is going direct only. WFB is going to have plenty of store presence, and regardless of what many (and indeed I) think I don't think the reboot will be bad for WFB, especially if in it's current format is failing to sell. Hell at one point it was almost totally canned.

You never know new WFB might just be awesome (not finecast awesome either), however my own feelings are that the background is what makes WFB, dick with this then it isn't WFB any more, and frankly that just isn't for me. I'm going a little O/T here posting about WFB on 40k (or should that be 30k??) boards but I feel it's as good a time as any. I think what's done WFB no good is the high entry cost and investment of time & money to get a decent army, making a game that's playable as a skirmish game AND a massed battle game does make financial sense, start small, minimal initial outlay, get people interested/hooked, build and buy a bigger army, SADLY this is where GW fall down, THIS IS WHAT THEY USED TO DO YEARS AGO, with games like Heroquest, Warhammer Quest, Blood Bowl etc. get people into the Warhammer world and setting and races of that fantasy world.

They lost sight of this and thought that the product was self sustaining, it isn't, there is much more competition now for peoples hard earned cash than ever before, there are many companies that do similar and in some cases better stuff than GW and people know it, because other companies use the internet etc. to their advantage, GW see it as the enemy, and they are wrong.

I guarantee this thread has generated more excitement in a few short hours than crap like warhammer visions ever will, and it won't cost them hardly anything. People including me are now thinking, maybe I'll get some nids really for genestealer cults coming along, or I'll pick up an extra deathstorm box for all the nids, or whatever, that GW is SALES. Hiding away ignoring your fan base is beyond ridiculous, especially in such a niche market. The fact that Whispereroftruth said "Admech..... proved popular beyond all expectations" shows just how little they know/listen to their fanbase, as this has been one of THE most wishlisted armies for so many years it is ridiculous. Anyway enough rambling.

Release Schedule Rumors - Feb 2015
Question by drbored on Warseer (hastings response is afterwards)
Sad about Sisters, but let's work on the rest of these.
When you say 'Harlequin-sized release' you mean in terms of number of kits?
So it COULD be a main codex (like Space Marines or whatevs) getting about
as many models as the Harlequins got, or are we talking about smaller
forces like the Militarum Tempestus and Harlequin-style releases with new
Codices?

Also I think it's pretty clear that the 'full range' is going to become
GW's plastic 30k stuff, which means the boxed 'historical game' is going to
be Horus Heresy based, or am I just off the mark?

hastings Response
I mean Harlequin sized as in number of kits, i.e. a few characters, a
troops kit, a larger kit and a transport. Or thereabouts One kind of has a
main codex, kind of, and it's been mentioned on this very thread. The other
has also been mentioned on another thread, the one that got moved for not
having any news or rumours in.... even though it actually contained quite a
bit. In fact I suppose you might say the 2nd has a main codex too (kind of)

You sir are on the mark


It's HH as stated above.

I think there's a misunderstanding here. BOTH new standalone games will have their model contents released. The first being HH, will see models released as part of the 30k range. The 2nd boxed game models will be released as part of 40k range, part that is currently only available in finecast and not deathwatch before anyone says it again.



second 'box game' is based on Officio Assasinorum.
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I'm honestly really hoping that Chaos Space Marines gets some attention. Let's get some properly sized Plague Marines, updated Khorne Berzerkers, and Noise Marines and Thousand Sons that aren't half Finecast, kthxbai

Also thanks hastings, this is awesome stuff and makes me pretty excited for the future!
Oh they will

Hastings Response
But not as part of the stuff in this thread, well unless you count the bad SM as CSM? (if you know what I mean)


I have heard that there might be a plastic GD, plastic daemons, and plastic CSM kit for a certain god at some point later this year (and no it's not Khorne!)

Hastings Wrapping things up
So from the list we have:-
Admech Codex & models (full release)
**** Codex & models (Harelquin sized release already mentioned on thread)
**** Codex & models (Harelquin sized release already mentioned on thread)
HH Standalone box game, on sale for a few months, then models become part of 30k range.

Assassins Standalone box game, on sale for a few months, then models become part of the 40k range.

Not Arbites, Not CSM in any form, subtract from those listed. Although I did say that DA might get an update AND that there may be a 40k release of a GD, Deamons and CSM for a god that isn't Khorne at some time later in the year.

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Then separately DA & Tzeentch type stuff. Oh but don't rule out the missing GDs etc. they're all done

Two are due out this year (greater daemons) AFAIK, and we've seen pics of 1

I will just reiterate I DO NOT KNOW THE TIMEFRAME of these releases, I've been out of the loop for some time. I can only assume that Lords of Wargaming have the Apr/May Admech correct (I'd heard April) but I've no idea of the schedule or indeed order of the other stuff.

I guess Patriarch, Magus, Hybrids, and Limo might just about make that a Harlequin sized release?

Totally (well not totally actually) unrelated I did hear that actual CODEXes? (CODices?) god know s the plural, might soon be a thing of the past. with all rules being in box leaflets. Some might even contain 2 sets of rules, one for 40k and one for 30k But I'm not 100% on this.

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If they do Genestealer Cults (which I hope they do) then they need to make Arbites to fight them

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 MrFlutterPie wrote:
If they do Genestealer Cults (which I hope they do) then they need to make Arbites to fight them

Not really.

Deathwatch, Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Sisters of Battle all can fight Genestealer Cults y'know...
   
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 MrFlutterPie wrote:
If they do Genestealer Cults (which I hope they do) then they need to make Arbites to fight them

Not really.

Deathwatch, Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Sisters of Battle all can fight Genestealer Cults y'know...


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Arbites would make a good allies faction. Sure they use some stuff that's already used by the Marines and Sisters (namely Rhinos) but that just makes it easier to put something out there for them. Heck if GW really wanted they could even throw in the Taurox as an Arbite option too.

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overtyrant wrote:
Wait, Hastings is back on the scene? I thought he bowed out long ago?? Sorry for OT but has he said anything about the WFB rumours?

Yep. His first rumors since Nov that I know of.



Reading through that, I'm struck by the strange contrast between an initial caginess and a subsequent willingness to confirm correct guesses. If a person has "privileged" information, and is apparently willing to be seen confirming correct guesses about said information, why would a person not just say what they know in the first place, over playing a tepid sort of cat-and-mouse? Is this some sort of bizarre attempt at deep-cover marketing?

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overtyrant wrote:
Wait, Hastings is back on the scene? I thought he bowed out long ago?? Sorry for OT but has he said anything about the WFB rumours?

Yep. His first rumors since Nov that I know of.



Reading through that, I'm struck by the strange contrast between an initial caginess and a subsequent willingness to confirm correct guesses. If a person has "privileged" information, and is apparently willing to be seen confirming correct guesses about said information, why would a person not just say what they know in the first place, over playing a tepid sort of cat-and-mouse? Is this some sort of bizarre attempt at deep-cover marketing?


Probably because there is a tendency on these sites now to see a rumormancer sticking their neck out with something new and cut it off. Thus it is safer and less aggravating to merely confirm rumors that are out there. Even Harry and Hastings have had some flak directed their way in the past.
   
 
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