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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 18:53:58
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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A (not so)recent post on the army list page gave me a cool idea. What is the best list you can come up with for 250 points with the standard CAD? No other restrictions, just need 1HQ and 2 Troops. Anything else you can fit is cool. This is the first thing off the top of my head:\
Chaos Space Marines 250 points;
Dark Apostle: SoC, Bolt Pistol, Power Maul, VoTLW, MoT - 120 points
Chaos Cultists: x10(w/champ), x10 Autoguns - 65 Points
Chaos Cultists: x10(w/champ), x10 Autoguns - 65 Points
What can you come up with?
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"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion
DR:80SGMB--I--Pw40k01#-D++++A+/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:05:06
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Herald of tzeentch
11x pink horrors
11x pink horrors
5 warp charges I'll just summon a unit each turn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:16:44
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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Flying Hive Tyrant 1x TL Devs 1x Tl Deathspitter - 220
1x Mucolid - 15
1x Mucolid - 15
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:17:46
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Blood Angels:
Librarian: 65
5 Scouts, BP/CCW, Meltabombs: 55
5 Scouts, BP/CCW: 55
Whirlwind: 65
Libby sits back and casts Prescience on the WW, Scouts Infiltrate and go for early charges.
Space Wolves:
Wolf Lord, The Black Death: 130
5 Blood Claws: 60
5 Blood Claws: 60
Point, click, hope you have enough attacks to kill stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:18:51
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Amoras wrote:Flying Hive Tyrant with TL Devs - 230
1x Mucolid - 15
1x Mucolid - 15
That's 260.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:22:41
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Alternative Space Wolves:
Rune Priest, The Black Death: 85
5 Grey Hunters, CCW: 80
5 Grey Hunters, Flamer, CCW: 85
Same as above, but can play more defensively if it has to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:29:45
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Lhamaean
=10
5x Kabalite Warriors w/ Blaster
-Venom w/ 2x Splinter Cannons
=120
5x Kabalite Warriors w/ Blaster
-Venom w/ 2x Splinter Cannons
=120
I reckon that's enough Poison/Speed Automatically Appended Next Post: Amoras wrote:Flying Hive Tyrant with TL Devs - 230
1x Mucolid - 15
1x Mucolid - 15
Go with a Tervigon over Flyrant (too expensive) and follow CrownAxe idea, just make a unit each turn.
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YMDC = nightmare |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:35:14
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The flyrant could work. You would just need to swap a pair of devourers for a pair of deathspitters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 19:35:25
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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You're correct, i had it in my mind the mucolids where 10 points somehow. Changed it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 20:23:47
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Arch demagogue with cov of tzeentch
4 disciples with autocannon
3 spawn
10 mutants
10 mutants
3 rapier laser destroyers with militia training. Automatically Appended Next Post: Or
Inquisitor
3 servitors with plasma cannons
6 acolytes with bolters
3 acolytes with plasma guns
5 acolytes with bolters
3 acolytes with plasma guns
5 acolytes with bolters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 21:28:36
Subject: Re:The Tiny Army Challange!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Dark Angels 250:
Librarian with MoR: 95
Tactical Squad with Flamer: 75
Tactical Squad with Flamer: 75
5 points left over to give somebody melta bombs.
Go crazy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 21:43:53
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Poly Ranger wrote:
Inquisitor
3 servitors with plasma cannons
6 acolytes with bolters
3 acolytes with plasma guns
5 acolytes with bolters
3 acolytes with plasma guns
5 acolytes with bolters
Not a CAD. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 21:55:07
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Ah good point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 22:04:58
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Dakka Veteran
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Big mek w/ shock attack gun , 1 ammo runt
2x 10 grots
2x deff koptas with rokkits
traktor kannon (in case of flyer lol )
248 total
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- Neva trust a Deff Skull , gitz just wanna take yur lootz
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 22:15:58
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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HH
centurion 50
power sword/axe 15
Melta 5
artficer 10
tac squad 150
Melta b 5
lightng claw/power fist 15
Fury of the legion take out most of enemy then run in and assault to mop up the rest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 22:16:51
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Looks like you only have 1 Troops choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 22:26:51
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Grey Knights can't do a CAD at 250pts. /sad face
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 22:57:08
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ethereal 50
7x Fire Warriors 63
7x Fire Warriors 63
Crisis Suit w/ Fusion 37
Crisis Suit w/ Fusion 37
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YMDC = nightmare |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 23:15:40
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Frozocrone wrote:Ethereal 50
7x Fire Warriors 63
7x Fire Warriors 63
Crisis Suit w/ Fusion 37
Crisis Suit w/ Fusion 37
At this points level, I think I'd try to get them Plasma rather than Fusion guns. You're really not likely to see any AV13/14, so I'd take the extra shott at the expense of a Fire Warrior or two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/20 23:28:24
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Paradigm wrote: Frozocrone wrote:Ethereal 50
7x Fire Warriors 63
7x Fire Warriors 63
Crisis Suit w/ Fusion 37
Crisis Suit w/ Fusion 37
At this points level, I think I'd try to get them Plasma rather than Fusion guns. You're really not likely to see any AV13/14, so I'd take the extra shott at the expense of a Fire Warrior or two.
Fair comment. They are actually the same price so it's an easy switch. Or go for Missile Pods which are the same price and allow you to do Gunline.
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YMDC = nightmare |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 03:33:13
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Wow. My team stands no chance at all. Of course being CSM I am use to it!
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"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion
DR:80SGMB--I--Pw40k01#-D++++A+/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 03:46:13
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Dakka Veteran
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Wow, some armies can do quite a bit with 250 pts
Sisters of Battle,
Canoness with 35 pts in wargear, perhaps a Plasma pistol and power weapon?
2X Battle Sister squads of five each with flamer and melta gun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 04:51:36
Subject: Re:The Tiny Army Challange!
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Sacramento, CA
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The cheapest codex Astra Militarum army is 180 points - CCS and two vet squads. With just 70 points left you have two options. You can buy a moderate quantity of guns for your units or you can splurge on a shooty vehicle such as a wyvern and just use your vets to occupy space.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 07:03:46
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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250 is a little small to expect folks to be able to run two Troops units, you get so little flexibility when most armies are forced to take 220ish points minimum tax to play a CAD.
(If you tossed it open to other Battle-Forged lists with no CAD I'd submit the Inquisitor and a small band of ground troops radioing desperately for their Valkyrie)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 11:53:52
Subject: Re:The Tiny Army Challange!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Raxmei wrote:The cheapest codex Astra Militarum army is 180 points - CCS and two vet squads. With just 70 points left you have two options. You can buy a moderate quantity of guns for your units or you can splurge on a shooty vehicle such as a wyvern and just use your vets to occupy space.
I think I'd get:
CCS, Heavy Bolter: 70
Veterans, Carapace, HB, Flamer: 90
Veterans, Carapace, HB, Flamer: 90
At this points level, the HB might actually be decent (there's a lot of Infantry around), but if not it could easily be traded for an Autocannon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 12:28:31
Subject: Re:The Tiny Army Challange!
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Warboss - Bike, BP, DLS, PK - 140 pts
Grots - 35 pts
Grots - 35 pts
Kopta - 30 pts
Boss goes with kopta for a scoutmove, they're 5 t6 wounds and 5 s10 ap2 attacks on the charge with rerolling to-hits/misses. Boss tanks with his 3+ rerollable cover or 4+ rerollable armor save. Can exchanvge a BP for something else like a 6+ fnp or squig for one of the grot squads.
Another list could be:
HQ mek - 15 pts
Grots - 35 pts
Grots - 35 pts
3 lobbas with ammo runts - 57-63 pts
Deff dread with some stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 13:29:42
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Humorless Arbite
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Interesting challenge. I'll give it a go -
Tau:
Cadre Fireblade 60pts
Drone sentry turret team w/ twinlinked Missile Launcher 40pts
Drone sentry turret team w/ twinlinked Missile Launcher 40pts
Sniper Drone team. 1 Marksman, 6 drones. 103pts
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The fireblade will join the sniper drone team and increase their damage versus infantry.
I can't attest as to the efficacy of this army, considering it is of exceedingly low model count. It's probably gak but I could have some fun with it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 14:41:42
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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AnomanderRake wrote:250 is a little small to expect folks to be able to run two Troops units, you get so little flexibility when most armies are forced to take 220ish points minimum tax to play a CAD.
(If you tossed it open to other Battle-Forged lists with no CAD I'd submit the Inquisitor and a small band of ground troops radioing desperately for their Valkyrie)
That was kinda the idea. It really tests creativity and tactics. With so many powerful lists (for the points) I am rather impressed. Anyone want to take a shot at a CSM list?
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"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion
DR:80SGMB--I--Pw40k01#-D++++A+/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 14:58:25
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Its kinda sad actually
But Orks Can!
Wierdboy lvl 2 70 pts
11 Gretchin and runtherd 38 pts
8 boyz and boss nob w/ big choppa and BP
Looted wagon w/ KillaKannon
Little change to the other ork list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/21 15:01:00
Subject: The Tiny Army Challange!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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A couple of shots at CSM, from someone who has not played CSM in years
Sorcerer: 60
10 Cultists: 59
10 Cultists: 59
2x Nurgle Spawn
OR
Sorcerer: 60
5x CSM, 5x CCW+Bolter, Mark of Khorne: 93
5x CSM, Flamer, Mark of Nurgle: 95
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