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Yeah that was a really interesting game.

Have orks placed at least in the top 8 since their new codex came out in any noteworthy tournament? I dont mean 600 points of orks supported by 1250 points of necrons, I mean pure ork lists?

 Orock wrote:
Have orks placed at least in the top 8 since their new codex came out in any noteworthy tournament? I dont mean 600 points of orks supported by 1250 points of necrons, I mean pure ork lists?

They almost did this time. It was ninth or tenth here. Kind of an arbitrary distinction. They also basically just abused the VSG FAQ though so that really doesn't count for too much to me

can anyone give me summaries of sean's games that were streamed? :(

Deshkar wrote:
can anyone give me summaries of sean's games that were streamed? :(

Summary - he kicked ass, took names, and raped a Lynx with a Lictor.

Well played, Sean!

Orks aren't really a super competitve codex. It's actually one of the least competive. I would say the main reason this one worked was greentide is a decent formation that plays very different then most people are use to in competition settings and the void sheild gave it a nice combo. The next closest ork player was 67th place.

 Verthane wrote:

Deshkar wrote:
can anyone give me summaries of sean's games that were streamed? :(

Summary - he kicked ass, took names, and raped a Lynx with a Lictor.

Well played, Sean!

I very much enjoyed the ravaging that that Lictor gave the Lynx

Only two of Sean's games were streamed. They should be up on frontline gaming's YouTube channel in 24/48 hours

 luke1705 wrote:

 Orock wrote:
Have orks placed at least in the top 8 since their new codex came out in any noteworthy tournament? I dont mean 600 points of orks supported by 1250 points of necrons, I mean pure ork lists?

They almost did this time. It was ninth or tenth here. Kind of an arbitrary distinction. They also basically just abused the VSG FAQ though so that really doesn't count for too much to me

They didn't abuse the faq the void shield is the same wording as the old kff and specifies unit not model. No one complained about the old kff with its 6in aoe for all units. The void shield wasn't eve a popular choice and he only was able to use it effectively because The greentide just happens to be the largest unit in game. He was ninth and missed the top 8 by 1 point.

Ok so abused might be the wrong term. But if you bring that same list, or any ork list, without a KFF, they're not going to be in the top 50. I don't think that that single model (a fortification no less) should be the singular reason why the army is good

 luke1705 wrote:
Ok so abused might be the wrong term. But if you bring that same list, or any ork list, without a KFF, they're not going to be in the top 50. I don't think that that single model (a fortification no less) should be the singular reason why the army is good

Agreed. Flyrants are overpowered.

 Orock wrote:

 luke1705 wrote:
Ok so abused might be the wrong term. But if you bring that same list, or any ork list, without a KFF, they're not going to be in the top 50. I don't think that that single model (a fortification no less) should be the singular reason why the army is good

Agreed. Flyrants are overpowered.

have an exalt for having the same thought as me.

 luke1705 wrote:
Ok so abused might be the wrong term. But if you bring that same list, or any ork list, without a KFF, they're not going to be in the top 50. I don't think that that single model (a fortification no less) should be the singular reason why the army is good

Ork Greentide was top 5 templecon this year... no voidshield or KFF or anything of the sort... Just big, fearless, PK galore, and FNP...

 Byte wrote:
Bugs win!

Oh man, awesome! I'll have to watch the recording of the finals when they get it up.

I missed Best Paint and those other top announcements when I was watching twitch. could someone post those?

And did Sirus Chappel really get the Wooden Bolter?

Oh wow. Lictors. So many Lictors. That's a rarity in itself.

Of course, Mass Mucolid was to be expected - and a lot of the carrying was probably done by the Flyrants (which, to be fair is the same for 95% of the Tyranid lists out there - Flyrants are the real stars, everything else is just chaff). Also, the scout-pods.

Glad to see Bugs doing well though! LEviathan really added a lot for us..

(Like 15 point troops choices! Hue hue hue.)

Hollismason wrote:
what was the Dark Angels player playing?

^ this. I'm on the edge of my seat.

I want to see the Dark Angel list and the Space Wolves list.

That award ceremony which I watched most of was incredibly awkward.

 Brothererekose wrote:
I missed Best Paint and those other top announcements when I was watching twitch. could someone post those?

And did Sirus Chappel really get the Wooden Bolter?

No, Sirus accidentally took an illegal list and got DQ'd. I believe he took a knight as a LOW, but ran it as part of a detachment that doesn't have a LOW slot. He hadn't played in a while, honest mistake.

The best part of the awards was like when they kept having to explain to the guys getting the awards to actually stand with the women, which was also very awkard except for some guys who were like "Yea!!"

bunkermonkey9 wrote:
I want to see the Dark Angel list and the Space Wolves list.

The space wolf list in the finals? Lots of drop pods, I believe. Guy was being a douche to his opponents, though. Never actually cheated as far as I saw, but was coming up with a bunch of bs rules arguments on every little thing his opponent did. They had to post a judge on him full-time to keep an eye on him. Luckily he got knocked out of the running for best general, from what I saw and heard from other people who watched some of his other games he didn't deserve a win.

Lictors vs Scouts in the final? Orks in the top 10? (Missing the top 8 finals by one point I heard) No Necron Decurions/Wraiths on the top tables?

Oh my, it almost seems as if I can't trust the internet on what's going to win big tournaments

Big congrats to the winner, and great job by everyone at Frontline who organize a tournament that's being followed by people around the world (or at least me) and seems like a blast to attend!

It was an awesome event. Best 40k tournament I've ever been to. Can't speak highly enough of it.

Please do not post a separate thread for LVO questions/commentary. all questions/commentary about the LVO should go into the main LVO thread.

Okay, since discussion in the other thread was off-topic, I have closed it and re-opened this one to use as the official LVO Discussion Thread (and updated the title accordingly).

Please keep all LVO discussion to this one thread - thanks


SGTPozy posted the results in *yet another* thread so I'm copying them here!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ts-7-qPOkZepm03I2PmHktw/htmlview#

SGTPozy wrote:
^There are the results.

So what do you guys think? Are they what you expected?

Personally, the top 5 surprised me since there were two SM primaries, one CSM primary, one Daemon primary and only one pure Eldar.

I'm not sure what he means by this, though - the top 5 certainly show up that way, but the winner was #6 Sean Nayden, right? This list seems to be including soft scores, although Sean's battle points were not the highest, either (Nick Nanavati had 2 more battle points).

those are actually just the results from friday above,

final results are here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15OO5X0UBng8tesVbH92_67fVzRGEOxyHI_44AFImXRQ/edit?usp=sharing&pli=1

What were the prizes anyway?

A super sweet wooden bolt pistol that was signed by all entrants

So it seems like there was a good number of people using FBSC and Space Marines in the LVO. How did they rule on Preferred Enemy and re-rolling scatter from blast?

Tautastic wrote:
So it seems like there was a good number of people using FBSC and Space Marines in the LVO. How did they rule on Preferred Enemy and re-rolling scatter from blast?

Is this a rules issue? It seems pretty clear to me that since PE only let's you reroll 1's it's pretty useless when making to hit rolls with blast weapons. It's still great for to wound rolls, obviously.