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Winner got $2000, 2nd place got 500, there were a host of renaissance man, paint, and best of awards. Best of each army got a free ticket to next year's LVO, plus an etched glass trophy. ITC awards got handed out as well, there was a ton of stuff.

Plus, a 13 year old kid from my gaming group came and played and went 4-2, and Frontline on the spot grabbed some boxes for his army and gave it to him as a young blood award.

how did the Ork player use the Void Shield Generator to his advantage?

put it in a building and keep his guys spread out to be able to be within 6ins?

Johnnytorrance wrote:
how did the Ork player use the Void Shield Generator to his advantage?

put it in a building and keep his guys spread out to be able to be within 6ins?

You're thinking of the Kustom Force Field

Johnnytorrance wrote:
how did the Ork player use the Void Shield Generator to his advantage?

put it in a building and keep his guys spread out to be able to be within 6ins?

He has a battle report thread below on dakka. He had a short discussion on the void shield before he tried it. He will be posting full battlereports this week.
Basically the void shield is worded the same as the old kff. Giving any Unit (not model) within 12in an av12 shield. So as long as 1 ork buy out of 100+ is within 12in the entire greentide unit is covered by the shield. Thus he ends up giving his 103+ assault troops 3x 12av shields vs shootings that pretty much protects the tide from anti infantry shooting or overwatch unless you dedicate anti tank shooting to taking off the 3x shields since the shields regenerate on a 5+ each turn.

bunkermonkey9 wrote:
I want to see the Dark Angel list and the Space Wolves list.

Brandon was a great player and a good gent. Had one of my funnest games with him and I lost! From memory as I'm at the airport right now heading home he had.

DA
Libby PFG
Libby PFG
10 Tacs Drop Pod (Metla I think)
10 Tacs Drop Pod (Melta again I think)
5 Assault Drop Pod 2 Flamers

IG
2 Priests
30 Conscripts
30 Conscripts
Platoon Command Squad
2 10 Man Guardsmen 1 Lascannon
Platoon Command Squad
2 10 Man Guardsmen 1 Lascannon
Leman Russ Vanquisher
2 Leman Russ (ones with the 20 rending shots) 1 with Pask.

It was unusual for sure, but Brandon played it tight and in an objective heavy field, had a ton of bodies to throw around the table. I made a big mistake near the end that cost me the game. he was my only loss.

gungo wrote:

Johnnytorrance wrote:
how did the Ork player use the Void Shield Generator to his advantage?

put it in a building and keep his guys spread out to be able to be within 6ins?

He has a battle report thread below on dakka. He had a short discussion on the void shield before he tried it. He will be posting full battlereports this week.
Basically the void shield is worded the same as the old kff. Giving any Unit (not model) within 12in an av12 shield. So as long as 1 ork buy out of 100+ is within 12in the entire greentide unit is covered by the shield. Thus he ends up giving his 103+ assault troops 3x 12av shields vs shootings that pretty much protects the tide from anti infantry shooting or overwatch unless you dedicate anti tank shooting to taking off the 3x shields since the shields regenerate on a 5+ each turn.

CaptainA wrote:

bunkermonkey9 wrote:
I want to see the Dark Angel list and the Space Wolves list.

Brandon was a great player and a good gent. Had one of my funnest games with him and I lost! From memory as I'm at the airport right now heading home he had.

DA
Libby PFG
Libby PFG
10 Tacs Drop Pod (Metla I think)
10 Tacs Drop Pod (Melta again I think)
5 Assault Drop Pod 2 Flamers

IG
2 Priests
30 Conscripts
30 Conscripts
Platoon Command Squad
2 10 Man Guardsmen 1 Lascannon
Platoon Command Squad
2 10 Man Guardsmen 1 Lascannon
Leman Russ Vanquisher
2 Leman Russ (ones with the 20 rending shots) 1 with Pask.

It was unusual for sure, but Brandon played it tight and in an objective heavy field, had a ton of bodies to throw around the table. I made a big mistake near the end that cost me the game. he was my only loss.

All those conscripts and no Azreal? This LVO continues to upend conventional wisdom.

axisofentropy wrote:


All those conscripts and no Azreal? This LVO continues to upend conventional wisdom.

The libbys made the conscripts fearless and when they were within 3 of him got the 4 up invul, He was also trying to get into close combat to bog things down and tie up units with the priests who give rerolls to save so when things were really clustered up he was very hard to kill. The drop pods were dropping on objectives giving multiple layers of protection and he had some decent long range support.

 DarkLink wrote:
Winner got $2000, 2nd place got 500, there were a host of renaissance man, paint, and best of awards. Best of each army got a free ticket to next year's LVO, plus an etched glass trophy. ITC awards got handed out as well, there was a ton of stuff.

Plus, a 13 year old kid from my gaming group came and played and went 4-2, and Frontline on the spot grabbed some boxes for his army and gave it to him as a young blood award.

The tournament winners won table war amazing cases which are fantastic, power play gift cards, relm of battle display board for the winner, and of course the AWSEOME LAS Vegas LVO plaques.

The cash prizes where for the ITC winners. So the overall winner of the entire ITC was 2K and so on.... it was amazing lots of awards and the ITC is for sure the tournament ranking you want to win.

FYI for anyone who wants to see the top 4 space wolves list, I have posted my list in the main SW tactics thread


lol that 13 year old kid did really well!

pascal and israel had super sweet paintjobs too

 easysauce wrote:
FYI for anyone who wants to see the top 4 space wolves list, I have posted my list in the main SW tactics thread


lol that 13 year old kid did really well!

pascal and israel had super sweet paintjobs too

You inspired me with the melta bomb vets in pods during our game, if you had more of them you would have beaten me fore sure. They are the perfect counter to wks for pods.

I'm playing around with a guard cad and flesh terrors detchment involving a blob and vets in pods. It will be a fun list to play around with locally I think.

yeah i played two of thenew BA detach that lets you bring up to 6 FA,


6 FA drop pods as a 2nbdary detach with IG primary...

6 melta vets in pods....


droooooooolllllllll

Since apparently a battle report is going to come out and a crap ton of people asked me about this game on Facebook and at the event ... here is a brief synopsis.

The opponent I faced round 5 playing the Ork horde player was a genuine nice guy and the game started out just fine. I was confident that I was going to win the match due to the mission and my psychic rolls where clutch getting multiple horrors and terrify against Orks is solid and because of this I was not being rules lawyer enough on my opponents and I allowed him to play sloppy on movement and even model deaths.... poor playing on my part but vegas is a different animal and with only 3 hours of sleep and lots of drinks it was tough.

Anyways I don't really want to get on a soap box but we only completed 4 turns and after 4 turns I had been up by 2 in maelstrom and with the heavy support kills I had racked up I knew I was well in the lead for Big Guns. Long story short at the end of turn 4 I won everything except first blood and warlord giving me a solid 8 points. We began to play turn 5 I moved some things and the tournament organizer Reece came by and said no you need to stop now your holding up everyone with this game...So I said the only thing fair to do is count the game a end on Turn 4 and just consider my movement top of 5 null and void. Its the only fair thing.

Matt flipped a switch here which I am familiar with... I was that guy before, I was young and wanted to win and I behaved in the past in a way that I am not proud of because of that yearning to win.

So anyway Matt started to arguing over his chances to win more maelstrom and possibly kill a slew of models all of a sudden he claims that the horde will kill 9 deamonettes 9 horrors a deamon prince and a hive tyrant. the 4 different units he was already tied up with so normal attacks.... to contest a primary objective and tie the game if he had another turn... meanwhile completely ignoring the fact that I am up on everything and I would also have another turn and as long as I score 1 point like the objective all the way in my table zone which was a guarantee I would still win....

But during the course of heated debate I just said in my mind this is not me anymore and I realized it doesn't matter this much so I did not feel like arguing and just said what ever you tie maelstrom which is what Matt was saying he would be able to do.... sounds good lets go turn this gak in we are holding up the entire tournament. At the end of it all those 3 points kept me just shy of the miss to the top 8 needed 2 points.

Now I would like to also point out if you play the green tide you need to do three things.

1) Keep a dead toll so mark down exactly how many Orks you kill each turn. i personally am sure I was cheated here in my game but have NO PROOF of this..

2) Hold your opponent to movement rules. Make them move everything as intended. Horde players are sloppy on movement and don't let this slide. Don't except the excuse "I am trying to play fast so I don't take too much time" No screw that don't bring this list if thats true.

3) Play the game with the idea you will only get to turn 4 as a max most likely since you will be making sure your opponent is following movement rules will take time and I would keep a time log. How long was my deployment verses theirs... how long was my turn 1 verses there's.... so on and so forth.

If you do this you will at the very least have a game you can walk away from without a bad taste in your mouth win or loose and I can honestly say this game was HORRIBLE and I won the game.... all my other games at LVO where fantastic even my loss to Nick Brown and great opponents and great guys on the west coast. I highly recommend going to this event in the future.

Thanks,
Pajama

Our game was a blast, even if there's nothing Dreadknights and Imperial Knights can do to FMCs.

From the video feed we know that Sean has a hairy bum. Please leave the hairy bum in the video broadcast, i need it for science reasons.

PajamaPants wrote:
/snip
Thanks,
Pajama

So, you politely accuse your opponent of cheating for your loss on a public forum where he also post. Just accept your loss and move on.

Don't turn this into a b*tchfest.

: )

Fragile wrote:

PajamaPants wrote:
/snip
Thanks,
Pajama

So, you politely accuse your opponent of cheating for your loss on a public forum where he also post. Just accept your loss and move on.

Apart from, you know, he won?

 DarkLink wrote:
Winner got $2000, 2nd place got 500, there were a host of renaissance man, paint, and best of awards. Best of each army got a free ticket to next year's LVO, plus an etched glass trophy. ITC awards got handed out as well, there was a ton of stuff.

Plus, a 13 year old kid from my gaming group came and played and went 4-2, and Frontline on the spot grabbed some boxes for his army and gave it to him as a young blood award.

I also got $250 for 3rd

Jpr wrote:

Fragile wrote:

PajamaPants wrote:
/snip
Thanks,
Pajama

So, you politely accuse your opponent of cheating for your loss on a public forum where he also post. Just accept your loss and move on.

Apart from, you know, he won?

Did you read the post? He did not win, since he did not make top 8. He did not make top 8 because he did not have enough points. He did not make enough points so he is accusing his opponent of cheating.

So with the lynx shooting the D blasts, is this a sign of more things to come such as the larger Low (titans) or perhaps a reconsideration of the Invisibility nerf?

Fragile wrote:

Jpr wrote:

Fragile wrote:

PajamaPants wrote:
/snip
Thanks,
Pajama

So, you politely accuse your opponent of cheating for your loss on a public forum where he also post. Just accept your loss and move on.

Apart from, you know, he won?

Did you read the post? He did not win, since he did not make top 8. He did not make top 8 because he did not have enough points. He did not make enough points so he is accusing his opponent of cheating.

And this is where the thread gets derailed and turns into a ball of fire. Knock it off. He had a bad game and wants to vent. It ultimately doesn't matter and he learned a lesson from it, so lets move on.

 DarkLink wrote:
Our game was a blast, even if there's nothing Dreadknights and Imperial Knights can do to FMCs.

Gordan!

Thanks man !

I had fun as well and I seriously again apologize for being so Drunk still that morning... I couldn't even eat the pizza but I think I drank like 10 cups of water during the game....

Yea it was a super tough draw without kill points just kept summoning deamonettes.

I had a lot of fun as well and I think you played it the best you could have considering the matchup and mission.

Flying MC's are real popular right now and I would say its in relation to Knights being so strong and prevalent and Hive Tyrants sooo good....

Heads up guys. I took the liberty to convert all the top 8 Lists into PDFs with Army Builder.

As well picked out important links/information for people who might of missed them with all the different Dakkadakka LVO threads going around.

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2015/02/23/tits-tournaments-las-vegas-open-2015-top-lists/

Fragile wrote:

PajamaPants wrote:
/snip
Thanks,
Pajama

So, you politely accuse your opponent of cheating for your loss on a public forum where he also post. Just accept your loss and move on.

Real classy, I put a post that I stand behind by name for others to leverage some advice and for a select few to know what happened since they are asking me about it and your response is totally unhelpful and poorly thought out. First off this has nothing to do about a loss, since I did not loose this game nor does this has to do with missing the top 8. If I deserved to make it I would have beat NIck in game 6. I move on from losses quite well actually, but this is in fact about crappy games that kind of stuff still bugs me and I am equally to blame this time since I did not do the things I should have done, but I am trying to recommend others to do if they are in this situation.

I simply wanted to report what happened one time instead of several places to several people and while maybe you could give too gaks or you think this is in some way a malicious attack, it is not.. more like a lessons learned post which, I feel others could leverage and use to their advantage. I think even my opponent would be able to walk away from this game with lessons learned as well and he could learn a lot about how his game play is perceived by others.

Furthermore, after reading all the Ork love ( Which is awesome cause I love Orks) on this thread there is a serious chance others will have to face the Green Tide lists in the future and I would like to help anyone else with what I learned from playing against such an army to try to have a decent game against this style list.

But seriously thanks for quoting me and trying to misdirect the intention of the post to make me look like a bitter donkey cave. You had a super effective post and very encouraging for me to post again any advice or game reports so that others can potentially leverage something from my mistakes.

@ Everyone else I am sorry to derail the thread that was not my intention I will not be posting again but felt I needed to just reply to this person. I truly hope the advice helps someone out and now I can just say look at dakka to people who asked about the game.

Much Appreciated,
Pajama

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
So with the lynx shooting the D blasts, is this a sign of more things to come such as the larger Low (titans) or perhaps a reconsideration of the Invisibility nerf?

More likely Lynx will get banned. There were a lot of complaints before/during about OP ranged D, and for good reason. Ranged D is a low risk/high reward venture that can turn an otherwise solid TAC list into mud (there is a reason Lynx + skyshield was every other Eldar list). The only reason there wasn't more Lynx domination was the prevalence of FMC's (Flyrants especially), which is a hard counter to blasts in general.

 tastytaste wrote:
Heads up guys. I took the liberty to convert all the top 8 Lists into PDFs with Army Builder.

As well picked out important links/information for people who might of missed them with all the different Dakkadakka LVO threads going around.

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2015/02/23/tits-tournaments-las-vegas-open-2015-top-lists/

Grey knights top 8 woot

 Dash2021 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
So with the lynx shooting the D blasts, is this a sign of more things to come such as the larger Low (titans) or perhaps a reconsideration of the Invisibility nerf?

More likely Lynx will get banned. There were a lot of complaints before/during about OP ranged D, and for good reason. Ranged D is a low risk/high reward venture that can turn an otherwise solid TAC list into mud (there is a reason Lynx + skyshield was every other Eldar list). The only reason there wasn't more Lynx domination was the prevalence of Flyrants, which is a hard counter to blasts in general.

I could not agree more with this post and I think you will see a ton of these at Adepticon. I mean I can't lie I am seriously considering taking this since I tend to roll a lot of 6's and at Adepticon this thing would be amazing since you can take more sources and ally in that tricky little inquisitor with skulls and mitigate some weaknesses the list may have.

Even though I could see the ban of the Lynx I think it is important to remember what it does to the game. I think the idea of the Lynx being available to players is a deterrent for people to play with star type of units since no matter what you have in the unit the 6 will just wipe the models. The issue with banning anything is we need to consider what the implications are for the rest of the meta once that model is banned.

I think the new Harlaquins codex is going to mix things up anyway and provide combos with the Lynx + Eldar + Clowns that make it even better as a overall list....

If they keep the lynx, should un-nerf invis

What's the litany of poor sportsmanship mean?