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Codex Witch Hunters includes a section on reasons why your army would fight other armies, as well as a section with modelling tips for making your own Inquisition stuff.

Also Squats are a subhuman species.

According to RTE Imperial Classification, so were/are Ogryn and Ratlings.

Of course, if they were to ever admit there were proper xenos, they'd have to exterminate them.

Just remembering the Babylon 5 Centauri telling humans that Earth was a long lost Centuari Republic settlement when the two races first met.

Ogryns, Ratlings, and Squats are not stated to be subhuman but instead Abhuman (an evolutionary offshoot of humanity.)

Abhuman and subhuman are synonyms in the Imperium.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Abhuman and subhuman are synonyms in the Imperium.

If I am remembering correctly they are different things:

1) Subhumans were units that were basically just mutant cannon fodder previous IG editions.

2) Abhumans are stable evolutionary offshoots (so they won't be randomly mutating like subhumans.)

Sub-human is what you call someone who you don't believe has the full rights, dignity, value, etc as a Human being.

Abhumans are most certainly considered sub-human in the Imperium.

Did anyone mention yet that originally Ultramarines were not a Founding chapter, but given the 13th Chapter because the original 13th were Heretics?

 Psienesis wrote:


he took a chain-axe to the neck. His head is about to fall the feth off,

This indicates that, of all the knowledge lost to mankind, the forgotten teachings of the Wu Tang are perhaps the most-damaging to the Imperium. Remember, always, always, always protect ya neck.

I'm sorry I just couldn't resist

 ClockworkZion wrote:

SGTPozy wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 kronk wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Alpharius, and not Guilliman, is encased in Guilliman's tomb.

this thread is titled [b]facts[/b,] that isn't.

Citation that I'm wrong? Didn't think so!

Hanlon's Razor. You made the claim, so you need to provide the proof. No proof provided means no proof is needed to reject your claim.

SGTPozy's left shoe states that if you cannot disprove it then it is true; so earthism is correct as is the existence of a supreme being who lives in the clouds

"SGTPozy's left shoe" isn't seen as a tool of logic or rational thinking. On the other hand Hitchens' Razor is.

Anyways, back to the actual thread topic rather than people engaging in fallacies for troll purposes, Rainbow Warriors were named after a Green Peace ship.

EDIT: Hitchens' Razor, not Hanlons. Early morning doesn't get my best posts.

I have seen in a wiki or two that the Rainbow Warriors were named after Green Peace. But I am nearly certain that is wrong.

AFAIK Rainbow Warriors are named after Hawaiians. The Hawaiians called their warriors Rainbow Warriors. In modern times it is the name of the football team for the University of Hawaii. So maybe it is after a Greenpeace boat... or maybe Space Marines are named after a historical group of Warriors.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Rogue Trader had a Grav Attack Vehicle made from a deodorant container:

I remember making this. Stick deodrant container, the head of a plastic spoon and the weapons/bits shown are from Zoids toys (loved Zoids; some much great stuff for the bitz box!)

pm713 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Roboute Guilliman was poisoned but put into stasis before he actually completely died. There are pilgrims who visit him and swear that they think his wound is slowly healing.

And people (Marneus Calgar I think) who say this is both wrong and impossible. So its really up to each persons views.

You'd figure that after all those millennia, if his wound really were slowly healing at a pace visible to an ordinary human's eye (referring to the pilgrims), it would've healed by now.

Obscure Fact: Rick Priestley is the creator of Warhammer 40k, because a lot of people don't seem to know that.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also it's 40k, NOTHING works as intended. FFS these people need to pray before using a floppy drive lest the computer become offended and spawn daemons.

Pretty sure my rig would also get offended and start spawning demons if I would try to stick a floppy into it...

I remember that there are still Illuminati in wh 40k, trying to connect all humans in one hive mind.

 draugadan wrote:

I have seen in a wiki or two that the Rainbow Warriors were named after Green Peace. But I am nearly certain that is wrong.

AFAIK Rainbow Warriors are named after Hawaiians. The Hawaiians called their warriors Rainbow Warriors. In modern times it is the name of the football team for the University of Hawaii. So maybe it is after a Greenpeace boat... or maybe Space Marines are named after a historical group of Warriors.

Bare in mind they appeared in the RT rulebook, the same place wherein Leman Russ was an example Space Marine Commander.. the Space Wolves homeworld at the time was called Lucan, which meant he was Imperial Commander Lucan which is in itself innocuous.. but if you actually read the entry for Imperial Commanders it makes it clear that Imperial Commander is used interchangeably with 'lord' meaning that he is in fact Lord Lucan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bingham,_7th_Earl_of_Lucan

The Green Peace ship was certainly a part of it, the Rainbow Warriors only appeared in one place in the RT rulebook outside the example chapter section, and that was the two-page spread of a Rainbow Warrior marine being blown away by an Adepta Sororitas bearing the Fleur-de-lis emblem.

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 SirDonlad wrote:
The first '40k' (rouge trader) miniatures which werent that limited edition 'space knight' (or whatever it was called) were upgrade kits for fantasy models.

I'm gonna have to call rubbish on that. I've got White Dwarf 93 in front of me right now: the initial Rogue Trader release consisted of the rulebook, the RTB01 plastic Space Marine box and the Thrugg Bullnecks Space Ork Raiders.

It was before the rogue trader boxset.
When i was 8 (it was 1992) - there were a couple of guys who had been into it since the beginning at a local miniatures shop (before there were GW's everywhere) who took great relish (as i do nowadays) in talking about 'how far things had come since the old days' they recounted to us about how lucky we were to have plastic boxsets, citing the hassle of upgrade kits for fantasy models.

i had a quick look but there werent any pictures online currently, i only found pic's of the first dedicated production run of space marines (here's the link: http://wwww.nightsoil.co.uk/zhu/miniatures/warhammer-40k.htm) i will try to find you a picture of those pre-rogue trader upgrade models because the 'quality' of the model is laughable!

If it was before the Rogue Trader boxset it would have been before the Rogue Trader era. There were certainly no such conversion sets in the extensive 86-91 catalogue. (40k/RT came out in 88)

The dark angels appear to be named / modelled after a poem by Lionel Johnson called "Dark Angel" , who was heavily conflicted about his bisexuality, or collequially that he "goes both ways"

The DA tactical symbol? DOuble headed arrow. An arrow going both ways.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
The dark angels appear to be named / modelled after a poem by Lionel Johnson called "Dark Angel" , who was heavily conflicted about his bisexuality, or collequially that he "goes both ways"

The DA tactical symbol? DOuble headed arrow. An arrow going both ways.

The double arrow was used for all marines, not just DA. Crossed double arrows for assault, and sunbursts for dev.

The CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT, doesn't come with an assault ramp, so embarked infantry cannot assault out of the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT.

AM Commisars and SM Chaplains receive the same training, and serve the same purpose. However, Astartes are more receptive to the Imperial Creed than the average Guardsman.

SJ

Commisars where added to the Guard to solve low morale issues. How this is accomplished is when facing something that might kill the them, if they break and run the Commissar will kill them.

Unless you're Krieg, then they're there to keep you from suicide charging everything that even looks in general direction.

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
AM Commisars and SM Chaplains receive the same training, and serve the same purpose. However, Astartes are more receptive to the Imperial Creed than the average Guardsman.

SJ

Source?

I remember now that necrons were able to build more necrons, out of blank people, I remember even reading comic about that.

Damn that was my favorite part about necrons.

Also people are keep forgetting about sisters of battle that embraced chaos. I wish it would be more explored theme.

There is only one Sister who embraced Chaos, and even then she was only part of a card game. Every other instance has been through being possessed or otherwise controlled by Chaos which is definitely not the same thing.

She still managed to corrupt majority of order

 Whiskered wrote:
She still managed to corrupt majority of order

Against their will. And she never has had an even passing mention in the actual codexes making my take on her status as canon as "extremely suspect".

Besides, even if you do count her that's still far less Sister who have ever fallen to Chaos than Marines. </burn>

 Ashiraya wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
AM Commisars and SM Chaplains receive the same training, and serve the same purpose. However, Astartes are more receptive to the Imperial Creed than the average Guardsman.

SJ

Source?

Rogue Trader.

SJ

Here is an obscure fluff fact... Tig of the Ultra Marines is a half Eldar ... Can't sight the source off hand. And the Chaplains of the chapters do not preach that the emperor is a god no they keep the teachings of the faith of their home worlds.

 Corporal_Chaos wrote:
Here is an obscure fluff fact... Tig of the Ultra Marines is a half Eldar ... Can't sight the source off hand. And the Chaplains of the chapters do not preach that the emperor is a god no they keep the teachings of the faith of their home worlds.

I don't know about Tig, but there was a half-Eldar Librarian back in RT:


I think there are others in the fluff currently too.

And some chapters (like the Fire Angels) revere the Emperor as a literal god, so I wouldn't say that no Chaplain preaches the Ecclesiarchy's message.

There's like 35 named Chapters from various 40K sources known to be in good with the Ecclesiarchy and proponents of the Imperial Creed. I had a list at some point.

 jeffersonian000 wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
AM Commisars and SM Chaplains receive the same training, and serve the same purpose. However, Astartes are more receptive to the Imperial Creed than the average Guardsman.

SJ

Source?

Rogue Trader.

SJ

A bit outdated?