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I just played my first game that resulted in an opponent rage quirt I am not used to this. How do you deal with it?

Best I could tell in the moment was just to stand back, be polite, and accept the resignation.

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Stop trolling please.

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Not really trolling, I am a regular here.

Anyways, I've never dealt with a rage quit and it was awkward.
   
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well as much as eldar has there crazy stuff,like how awesome there waveserpants are and stuff ,i would just smile lol
   
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@Blade: I justnremoved any details that might made you think this was a troll post.

I am not trolling, I just have never had someone nerdquit on my before, and I got it tonight. Steaming nostrils, yelling at himself for the moves he forgot to make, etc. Storming off like it would get physical...the works.

I wasnt expecting it when it happened (aamof I thought I was losing the game), so I kinda just stood back and watched it unfold.
   
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No sh$t the dude weighed like 250 or something. I was seriously scared for a couple moments!
   
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Just accept it. What did he rage quit about specifically? If it was really that bad, just blow it off and don't play the guy again. That or say "Hey, last time you seemed pretty upset. I don't really want to play with you if you're going to act like that again."

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 jreilly89 wrote:
Just accept it. What did he rage quit about specifically?"


Necron re-rolls. I was running a Decurion with a Destroyer Cult.
   
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Reanimation Protocols can be very frustrating if you've never played against it before... especially if the reanimator is rolling very well.

I mean, if your opponent said that everything you killed got back up if he flipped a coin and it came up heads, would you not be surprised / offput? I'm not saying it was right, but if your opponent was that frustrated, it sounds like the best thing to do was pack up and try again another time.
   
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I am a teacher, so I have dealt with student tantrums/confrontations for 17+ years, from ages 5 through 15 years old, including raging angry parents, whose anger has been targeted all over the place (other kids, theirs, me, other adults, the system). I haven't had to deal with high school. Yet.

I had a near quit (minus the rage) at a 40k GT not too long ago. The TO and I spent the first 30 + minutes convincing the guy to play (he wanted to not play me because I had Serpent Spam) and the TO and myself continued to coddle him throughout the game. I eased off so much, he won.

Overall, when it comes to anger (there have been a few matches over 10 years of 40k) I do the following:
1. physically do step back and even point out the body language. "Dude, look, I'm stepping back." More space. Keep your arms *uncrossed*. I encourage slow breathing, again, actually mentioning, "Hey, man, I get mad too, but this helps. A little anyways."
2. keep your voice calm and quieter as you go through the discussion
3. Don't over do the apologies. I do try to avoid "Calm Down" as that one tends to be gasoline when *I* am on fire.
4. If of drinking age, and it's available, offer to buy the guy a beer, otherwise, offer to go eat
5. If none of the above work, one last "Sorry, man", offer to shake, and then pick up your models.

You'll notice I left out actually discussing 40k rules, FAQs, LOS, meta or any of that. It's not going to lead to sanity, as the guy's problem is *not* in the rules or the meta. It's simply a personality issue that you are likely not going to be able to cure. Well adjusted folks can handle disputes, whether bad losses, getting a ticket, spousal arguments, etc. without losing their cool. Might bet is the same guy that rage quit on you, also has a spaz when he gets a parking ticket, his team loses or misses a train.

I have had lotsa practice diffusing angry persons, as it's embedded in my job, and it often serves me well in games and away from 40k. Not always.

I hope that's helpful.

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Ending a game when it "is over" and you know you have lost with no chances oof winning is not always a "rage quit'.
Games take time and we games dont always have time to play a lot of games. In situations like that, calling it can give you time for another game you might not otherwise have had.

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Same way you deal with anybody throwing a tantrum. Ignore them & move on.

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Brothererekose wrote:You'll notice I left out actually discussing 40k rules, FAQs, LOS, meta or any of that. It's not going to lead to sanity

I couldn't agree with this more. By the time a person is that angry, what they're angry about doesn't matter anymore. They're just mad. Anything is an excuse to vent it.

People who are unreasonable can't be reasoned with. That means that saying things is unlikely to yield any results. The best you can do when people go off into the world of irrational negativity is to ignore them, don't do anything that could possibly be considered even remotely inflammatory (which will be everything other than ignoring), and make sure to keep yourself free from the blast radius, mentally, if not necessarily physically.

That and just accept that there are some people who are, at least for now, chronically incapable of being sociable. There are a lot of sociopaths and even a fair number of psychopaths in the world - you come across them all the time. The only way you can win is to not deal with them at all, and gently shove them away onto someone else or some other community so you don't have to deal with them again.

Which is a lot more challenging when it's, say, at your FLGS, and you might be forced to choose between a different group, or being a part of the group, just not with that person, which can be kind of tricky. If you can arrange enough ignoring and cold shouldering, though, you should be able to persevere. Trolls need food, and will go where they can get it.


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 jasper76 wrote:
 jreilly89 wrote:
Just accept it. What did he rage quit about specifically?"


Necron re-rolls. I was running a Decurion with a Destroyer Cult.


To be fair, that's a pretty annoying list. Just played a game against Decurions and it can be rather aggravating the first time around.

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Edit nvm

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Yeah sorry i thought you were the same guy who said he basically had to force someone to play and lose against his serpeant spam list (though he did seem like a nice guy for helping the other guy make good descisions and serpeant spam are totally fine in tourtaments) and you didn't really give use much info about your list to begin with. The new necron detachment can be really strong so it better to give a player a heads up if there is something they should be worried about, as you said its a new codex and they probably don't know it back to front. Sorry for offending you. And running multiple monoliths earns you my respect and would be awesome to see.

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You've never had anyone ragequit at you in anything in your life? I kinda find that hard to believe.

40k is about reading your opponent as well as their army. In tourny settings you are both there to win so as long as you've been a good sport, not your problem.

In a friendly setting like a local games night maybe converse with your opponent more so you can read his mood if he starts to get angry give him some advice like "Hey man you know they cant get back up if you destroy the whole unit" even if you *forget* to do something, The amount of times in 6th i *forgot* to use my vindicare assassin to instakill a land raider carrying some ss/th terminators because my opponent wasnt really having any fun.

I personally do agree that this is a troll post. You say you stood back and let it unfold means you KNEW exactly what was going on and did nothing to forge a narrative which is what the rule book really emphasizes on. You say that you thought you were about to lose? and let him rage like he did kinda sounds like a tfg waac move in my honest opinion.


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 XdeadpoolX wrote:
You've never had anyone ragequit at you in anything in your life? I kinda find that hard to believe.

40k is about reading your opponent as well as their army. In tourny settings you are both there to win so as long as you've been a good sport, not your problem.

In a friendly setting like a local games night maybe converse with your opponent more so you can read his mood if he starts to get angry give him some advice like "Hey man you know they cant get back up if you destroy the whole unit" even if you *forget* to do something, The amount of times in 6th i *forgot* to use my vindicare assassin to instakill a land raider carrying some ss/th terminators because my opponent wasnt really having any fun.

I personally do agree that this is a troll post. You say you stood back and let it unfold means you KNEW exactly what was going on and did nothing to forge a narrative which is what the rule book really emphasizes on. You say that you thought you were about to lose? and let him rage like he did kinda sounds like a tfg waac move in my honest opinion.



Did you see his post before he edited it? I feel like a lot of info is left out compared to what was there.

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Runnin up on ya.

Edit. Nevermind. No reason for me to be snarky.

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 Vespid wrote:
So your use internet cheese list regularly and your suprised? Why don't you play well built non cheese lists that actually require skill


To be fair, the decurion with destroyers isn't exactly a net list, it's 5 seconds of looking through the codex and going "Holy ****, having 4+ FNP on my entire army for free would be awesome! Let's take some units with lascannons to cover my anti tank needs." and you're there.

As for why he doesn't play a non-cheese list, well, some people have fun in running strong/cheesy lists, no matter how much you or I think they are ****heads for doing it. The issue is when a power-list plays a fluff list. Now the other guy knows better than to play decuricrons and the OP can choose to either soften his list against this guy if he's a regular or play someone else who also has a power-list. Or be a right clown and keep crushing the same guy over and over again.

If this was in a tourney, the OP had every right to bring the strongest list he could since that's what a tourney is about.

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My advice, if your playing blind lists and tabling people or getting rage quits either

A) dial down the list
B) explain it to your opponent and give them a little time to tailor their list to yours or grab a different list/army if that's something they can do
C) have a back up list of your own from a different codex

As to dealing with the rage quit... get ahead of it. I too teach... for me it's 14-19 year olds. So you learn to see it coming, and either offer to end the game or if you've got the interpersonal skills, diffuse through humor/support for their cause. You could offer to call it and play a different army/list, apologize for the mismatch.

Once it's started (the rage of the rage quit), I agree, no more 40k talk, disengage and let them cool off. I'm 6'4", almost 300 pounds and used to play/coach football so I can go fatherly mode and lecture down most teen/20 yos tantrums over toy soldiers... but I'd not recommend that unless you know you've got that angle covered. We don't have rage quits at my club, because I'll stalk over and send people to opposite corners before that ever happens. If this was at a club, where was the staff? That's part of hosting games, they should have a pulse on their game space and should have taken this out of your hands immediately.

Your FLGS should foster a culture that discourages poor sportsmanship on either side. I'd be upset with the player that brought a fully optimized tourney list out against a fluffy narrative one... and I'm also vocally unhappy with someone who calls a game when a little maturity and grace would have seen a round or two more played to see if the game clearly was a lost cause and if that wasn't a moral victory to be found.

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But it wasn't, it isn't a "but, or, if"; OP still hasn't explained the context. It just sounds like a classic case of Player A bringing his B game with an A- codex and still winning. We don't even know the lists, it might have very well been a justified game of rock-paper-scissors where the other guy felt helpless for an hour or two.

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 Quickjager wrote:
But it wasn't, it isn't a "but, or, if"; OP still hasn't explained the context. It just sounds like a classic case of Player A bringing his B game with an A- codex and still winning. We don't even know the lists, it might have very well been a justified game of rock-paper-scissors where the other guy felt helpless for an hour or two.


The OP did give details, and then took them down because some whiner thought he was trolling Eldar players.

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 Vespid wrote:
So your use internet cheese list regularly and your suprised? Why don't you play well built non cheese lists that actually require skill


I take umbrage to this. It wasn't an "Internet Cheese LIst". It's the new friggin codex. In a 2K point game, your dropping alot of your points into the mandatory Reclamation Legion, and then you have a mandatory Auxiliary formation choice (I picked Destroyer Cult), leaving you with the decision to (a) beef up the Reclamation Legion, (b) beef up the Destroyer Cult, and/or (c) get another auxliary formaion, with very limited points to play with to do any of this.

I picked options A and B. I didn't hunt any list down on the Internet. Nothing so complicated at all. Rather, I opened Battle Scribe and my codex, and started picking options. I like running Warriors, and I like running Destroyers (now that I finally friggin can ).

I brought 2 Monoliths, as well....is that cheesy now too?



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 jasper76 wrote:
 Vespid wrote:
So your use internet cheese list regularly and your suprised? Why don't you play well built non cheese lists that actually require skill


I take umbrage to this. It wasn't an "Internet Cheese LIst". It's the new friggin codex. In a 2K point game, your dropping alot of your points into the mandatory Reclamation Legion, and then you have a mandatory Auxiliary formation choice (I picked Destroyer Cult), leaving you with the decision to (a) beef up the Reclamation Legion, (b) beef up the Destroyer Cult, and/or (c) get another auxliary formaion, with very limited points to play with to do any of this.

I picked options A and B. I didn't hunt any list down on the Internet. Nothing so complicated at all. Rather, I opened Battle Scribe and my codex, and started picking options. I like running Warriors, and I like running Destroyers (now that I finally friggin can ).

I brought 2 Monoliths, as well....is that cheesy now too?





What detachment were your monoliths in? I am unfamiliar with the entire system of formations.
   
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The Monoliths were part of the mandatory core "Reclamation Legion" formation. You can take up to 2 within that formation.

That Formation is the core requirement for a Decurion detachment, which is analogous to the Combined Arm Detachment from the BRB.

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