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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/08 20:54:59
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Sienisoturi wrote:
Taking a look at the pdf above it is true that seeing naked adults is harmful regardless of the gender, but seeing the opposite gender is then again more harmful. These private lockers that some members have mentioned seem like the best solution.
here's the study:
http://www.freebeaches.org.nz/TAASALibrary52.pdf
This is another good read.
https://www.bodytalksystem.com/member/downloads/english/member/Naked_Beneath_Your_Clothing.pdf
your own pdf even reffered to this study:
Research into childhood exposure to parental and other adult nudity has provided neutral or mixed results, or results open to interpretation, but have not indicated that it has dire aftereffects on children
How do you go from no dire after effects to being harmful?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/08 21:33:11
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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How is this thread still open? Are the mods just all eating popcorn and laughing? I know I am!!
Personal thought is that if the gym posted rules saying this is allowed in the locker room, and they're a private entity, they can respond as their policy allows. Gym-goers are free to vote with their wallets, same as we do with GW.
Rule 1, motyak
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/08 23:29:56
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Gargantuan Gargant
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If it walks like duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
If it dresses like a woman, identifies itself as a woman, lives like a woman, and has a Club membership as a woman, I think it's safe to treat her like a woman.
Sienisoturi wrote:
1) By that logic showing extremely violent videos to children publicly should be legal, as we all have internal organs and there is nothing mystical or bad in them.
In the United States, violence and simulated violence are considered much less of a concern than sexual situations.
Children are allowed to watch heroes murder hordes of bad guys, but not the hero having sex.
Throw in anything sexual related that a religious conservative at all would object to like a female masturbating, or transgedered anything and it's going to be restricted to adults only. There are documentaries on how messed up this situation is.
By contrast, the nudity, language, and sexual situations of foreign TV shows are often edited before being aired on American TV.
FFS, Gay Marriage is still only legal in 37 out of 50 states.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/08 23:35:06
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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adamsouza wrote:If it walks like duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
If it dresses like a woman, identifies itself as a woman, lives like a woman, and has a Club membership as a woman, I think it's safe to treat her like a woman.
The duck metaphor falls short in this case though. Not sure how short, though, don't know the guy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/08 23:47:54
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Sigvatr wrote: adamsouza wrote:If it walks like duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
If it dresses like a woman, identifies itself as a woman, lives like a woman, and has a Club membership as a woman, I think it's safe to treat her like a woman.
The duck metaphor falls short in this case though. Not sure how short, though, don't know the guy 
Unless you are planning to play with what they have in their pants, I just don't see why the difference matters.
If I'm at the Gym, and the chubby bearded guy changing his clothes next to me appears to be a eunuch I'm not going to be offended.
If he starts rubbing his vagina in my face, then that's a matter of innapropriate behavior, and overstepping boundries.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 02:28:55
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Huge Hierodule
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MrDwhitey wrote:One person worries about kids being raped. People ignore/agree (or accurately point out the flaws with said persons thoughts).
One person worries about being raped, told they desperately need counselling, by men.
Nice.
Yep. Happy International Working Women's Day, everyone :/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 02:37:36
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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lindsay40k wrote: MrDwhitey wrote:One person worries about kids being raped. People ignore/agree (or accurately point out the flaws with said persons thoughts).
One person worries about being raped, told they desperately need counselling, by men.
Nice.
Yep. Happy International Working Women's Day, everyone :/
Didn't even know it was a thing.
We have so many "celebratory" days lately, it's hard to keep track.
My wife didn't know either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 03:23:19
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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cincydooley wrote: lindsay40k wrote: MrDwhitey wrote:One person worries about kids being raped. People ignore/agree (or accurately point out the flaws with said persons thoughts).
One person worries about being raped, told they desperately need counselling, by men.
Nice.
Yep. Happy International Working Women's Day, everyone :/
Didn't even know it was a thing.
We have so many "celebratory" days lately, it's hard to keep track.
My wife didn't know either.
You stopped caring about something that has been recognized for over 100 years before it was cool, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 05:35:00
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Posts with Authority
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ScootyPuffJunior wrote: cincydooley wrote: lindsay40k wrote: MrDwhitey wrote:One person worries about kids being raped. People ignore/agree (or accurately point out the flaws with said persons thoughts).
One person worries about being raped, told they desperately need counselling, by men.
Nice.
Yep. Happy International Working Women's Day, everyone :/
Didn't even know it was a thing.
We have so many "celebratory" days lately, it's hard to keep track.
My wife didn't know either.
You stopped caring about something that has been recognized for over 100 years before it was cool, right?
I stopped caring about made up socialist holidays quite a while ago too. Then again, I stopped caring about made up holidays in general quite a while ago. There are a million goddamned holidays just about every day of the year; I don't have time for that garbage. There are four holidays worth remembering; Yule, Ä’ostre, the anniversary of the battle of Waterloo, and Halloween. Everything else is just made up junk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 05:51:33
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I myself only care for the 4th of July, because of fireworks, and Thanksgiving, because I eat like a pig.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 05:57:30
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Posts with Authority
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Ouze wrote:I myself only care for the 4th of July, because of fireworks, and Thanksgiving, because I eat like a pig.
America Day and Eat Too Much Day are also nice, but I feel like they are days to be enjoyed on a pure selfish level and thus not to be overly celebrated. Also on this list are Drink Way Too Much Because I Kind Of Like The Color Green Day and Bribe My Girlfriend With Gifts Because I Lack Personality But I Want Sex Day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 06:27:10
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Dakka Veteran
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I'm looking forward to April the 15th, which is both the Day of Silence AND the Day of Dialogue. Someone is bound to be disappointed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 07:35:24
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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MrDwhitey wrote:One person worries about being raped, told they desperately need counselling, by men.
Not even close.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 07:38:58
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Greater Portland Petting Zoo
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MrDwhitey wrote:One person worries about kids being raped. People ignore/agree (or accurately point out the flaws with said persons thoughts). One person worries about being raped, told they desperately need counselling, by men. Nice. One form of silliness managing to work it's crazy ass under the radar doesn't mean another form of silliness is any less nuts. As to the what the feth we should do about letting transsexuals into whatever bathroom the want, just let them. Why? Because the alternative is exhausting and will only end with 9000 social justice knights making it their personal mission to make you feel, and appear to everyone else, as the lowest form of gak on the planet. That, and ultimately, it doesn't really hurt anyone to let them, and it might even make a few people who live a comparatively difficult life feel just a little better, which is always nice. Besides, if it makes you feel unconformable, just don't look at them. It will be less effort in the long run. As far as the worried about rapists getting your kids thing, come the feth off it. One, your kid shouldn't be more than a few feet from you at any given time, anyway, and two, in the case of young boys, they're already in a room filled with naked dudes. Lets face it, you should already be a DEFCON 2. EDIT: feth it, I give up on spelling. It's too late and I'm too tired.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 09:20:09
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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MrDwhitey wrote:
One person worries about being raped, told they desperately need counselling, by men.
Nice.
Yes. If you fear rapists around every corner, you're extremely paranoid and should immediately get professional help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 11:01:26
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Frankly this is a non-issue.
1. The odds are really really rare.
2. Put on your big girl underpants and deal. No one is surreptitiously checking you out. if they are take it as a complement.
3. The fungi in the showers are much more of a concern. I know. I put it there...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 11:17:01
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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VorpalBunny74 wrote:I'm looking forward to April the 15th, which is both the Day of Silence AND the Day of Dialogue. Someone is bound to be disappointed
That's "being married" day. She talks and you better listen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 11:37:55
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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ScootyPuffJunior wrote:You stopped caring about something that has been recognized for over 100 years before it was cool, right?
Yeah, you've got it.
Or I simply had no idea this was a thing.
Upon googling, this morning, I found this site with a bunch of other made up crap:
http://www.un.org/en/events/observances/days.shtml
Good news, everyone. We've got a big one coming up on March 21. Poetry, Down Syndrome, AND Forest and Tree day!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 13:11:02
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mods, at this point may I suggest we honor national lock the thread day?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 13:36:58
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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cincydooley wrote: ScootyPuffJunior wrote:You stopped caring about something that has been recognized for over 100 years before it was cool, right?
Yeah, you've got it.
Or I simply had no idea this was a thing.
Upon googling, this morning, I found this site with a bunch of other made up crap:
http://www.un.org/en/events/observances/days.shtml
Good news, everyone. We've got a big one coming up on March 21. Poetry, Down Syndrome, AND Forest and Tree day!
What a bunch of sexists, where are men days? I count at least 5 days just for women, without the corresponding day for men. ie a second mothers day with no recognized fathers day. Where's the diversity?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 13:44:24
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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sirlynchmob wrote:
What a bunch of sexists, where are men days? I count at least 5 days just for women, without the corresponding day for men. ie a second mothers day with no recognized fathers day. Where's the diversity?
Women have 5 days, men have the remaining 360.
#duck&cover
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 14:30:19
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Who the hell cares for those "special days"? What does that day mean to you? There's a day for pets, men, women, children etc. So what's the deal? They have zero significance to the population as a whole and I guarantee you that neither do most men care about men's day nor do most women care about women's day. Or even know that there is such a thing. Lord. If you want to celebrate, then do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 15:01:35
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Sigvatr wrote:Who the hell cares for those "special days"? What does that day mean to you? There's a day for pets, men, women, children etc. So what's the deal? They have zero significance to the population as a whole and I guarantee you that neither do most men care about men's day nor do most women care about women's day. Or even know that there is such a thing. Lord. If you want to celebrate, then do it.
You could just as easily apply that to Christmas or whatever.
Where is the limit on how few people can celebrate a day before it becomes superflous?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 15:21:09
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Ashiraya wrote: Sigvatr wrote:Who the hell cares for those "special days"? What does that day mean to you? There's a day for pets, men, women, children etc. So what's the deal? They have zero significance to the population as a whole and I guarantee you that neither do most men care about men's day nor do most women care about women's day. Or even know that there is such a thing. Lord. If you want to celebrate, then do it.
You could just as easily apply that to Christmas or whatever.
Where is the limit on how few people can celebrate a day before it becomes superflous?
Well, there is a pretty significant difference, at least in the US. Christmas is a federal holiday, and when just about every institution in a country recognizes it, and has something to do with it, you can't just as easily apply that logic to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 16:19:58
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Ashiraya wrote:
You could just as easily apply that to Christmas or whatever.
Where is the limit on how few people can celebrate a day before it becomes superflous?
I don't care who celebrates it. If that's your thing, you go do it.
I just don't want to be harangued because I don't know about every trivial and superfluous International Day of Recognition.
Hell, I came to work twice last year on federal holidays because I didn't know it was that federal holiday (Columbus Day and Presidents Day).
Expecting me to know it's "International Women in the Workforce Day" is asking a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 16:21:31
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sasori wrote: Ashiraya wrote: Sigvatr wrote:Who the hell cares for those "special days"? What does that day mean to you? There's a day for pets, men, women, children etc. So what's the deal? They have zero significance to the population as a whole and I guarantee you that neither do most men care about men's day nor do most women care about women's day. Or even know that there is such a thing. Lord. If you want to celebrate, then do it.
You could just as easily apply that to Christmas or whatever.
Where is the limit on how few people can celebrate a day before it becomes superflous?
Well, there is a pretty significant difference, at least in the US. Christmas is a federal holiday, and when just about every institution in a country recognizes it, and has something to do with it, you can't just as easily apply that logic to it.
This.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 22:47:52
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Fixture of Dakka
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Grey Templar wrote:Well if you're pre- op you're still whatever you are before the surgery. Simple.
That is the truth of it right there. Someone brought up earlier that they were scared a pre op that identified as the opposite gender would get beaten up if they were in a locker room related to what their pre op sex was. Has anyone here even considered the far more likely scenario of some boyfriend either alone or group of boyfriends going animal on a guy that is in the women's locker room with his/ their girlfriend(s) when he leaves the gym?
A concern that was mentioned to me by both men and women I work with is that an individual who claims to "identify" as a woman, could be just some stalker or rapist scouting out a victim to attack somewhere else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/09 23:50:20
Subject: Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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I should know better than to kick beehives like this. Nevermind.
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Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/10 01:15:04
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Relapse wrote:A concern that was mentioned to me by both men and women I work with is that an individual who claims to "identify" as a woman, could be just some stalker or rapist scouting out a victim to attack somewhere else.
Which is different from scumbags of the same gender as their intended victims because...?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/10 01:49:05
Subject: Re:Going to the gym just became more complicated
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Fixture of Dakka
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:Relapse wrote:A concern that was mentioned to me by both men and women I work with is that an individual who claims to "identify" as a woman, could be just some stalker or rapist scouting out a victim to attack somewhere else.
Which is different from scumbags of the same gender as their intended victims because...?
I don't know what it's like in your country, but here a man is far more likely to rape a woman than a woman is.
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