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Warhams-77 wrote:
A smaller Warlord was already introduced? That seems to be it then

Smaller Warlord? When? There were three patterns in general release - the first Mars pattern (Plastic and prototype Metal as you shown), the 2nd "Metalicus" pattern and the most recent Lucius pattern. You also had the Nemesis Class Psi-Titan which was planned but only made a limited release in the US as well as other planned for Warlords which were rumoured to be the Legatus, Atlas and Vulcan class Warlords.

Funnily enough, that Epic prototype metal Warlord goes for the same price on ebay that the new Warlord will probably cost!

I'm pretty sure in Conquest there's mention of a smaller one.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I'm pretty sure in Conquest there's mention of a smaller one.

Do you remember the page number or section where it was mentioned?

The information is from Looky Likey on page 12

 Looky Likey wrote:
Book 4 talked about a smaller warlord with a very similar load out to that picture: two arm weapons, two carapace weapons, all four seemingly Reaver standard weapons.

I'm expecting it to be that. I'm guessing this will be out for the Warhammer World open day next month at the latest. I am going to be very broke as I already had a sizable shopping list that I wanted to pick up when I went there.

Haha, the ebay prices for old prototype models are insane, aren't they?

 zedmeister wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I'm pretty sure in Conquest there's mention of a smaller one.

Do you remember the page number or section where it was mentioned?

No, I remember them mentioning it on the Independent Characters podcast, when they were talking about the fluff, and then Lookey Likey mentioned it on the last page which reminded me I'd heard it there, and I think I remember seeing something about it when Conquest came out, but I don't have a page number, sorry.

Better still be a real book and not an expensive advertisement for the Warlord like Vraks 2 was for the Reaver.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Better still be a real book and not an expensive advertisement for the Warlord like Vraks 2 was for the Reaver.

At least it will be a Warlord Titan, Ultramarines, Word Bearers, and the Deredeo dreadnought. Plus the new Thanatar loadout.

 zedmeister wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I'm pretty sure in Conquest there's mention of a smaller one.

Do you remember the page number or section where it was mentioned?

I don't have book 4 to hand, only book 3 but they talk about the Carnivore on page 157 and the Warlord Nemesis on page 161. The former is around Reaver size, the latter is Warlord sized. The Nemesis is also mentioned elsewher in the book, pretty sure HH4 and a couple of the latest BL HH books, although I'd be hard pressed to go through all of those for page numbers.

I think the screenshot is the Carnivore and has Reaver weaponary but more of it. This would make sense as it means they already have a wide number of arms for it, and fit into the recent volcano cannon release.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I'm pretty sure in Conquest there's mention of a smaller one.

Do you remember the page number or section where it was mentioned?

I don't have book 4 to hand, only book 3 but they talk about the Carnivore on page 157 and the Warlord Nemesis on page 161. The former is around Reaver size, the latter is Warlord sized. The Nemesis is also mentioned elsewher in the book, pretty sure HH4 and a couple of the latest BL HH books, although I'd be hard pressed to go through all of those for page numbers.

I think the screenshot is the Carnivore and has Reaver weaponary but more of it. This would make sense as it means they already have a wide number of arms for it, and fit into the recent volcano cannon release.

The Carnivore class is a type of Reaver Titan (Along with the Hun and Vandal) which called for type of Weapon loadout. The Warlords had names like the Deathbringer, Nemesis, Eclipse and Nightgaunt which were supposed to represent loadouts for long range, close support, etc. At least, that's what they were back in the mists of time of 1988! FW could, of course, be changing the designation and naming.

Reading the FW HH books they are different chassis within a class now, Mars being one type of chassis with Mars Reaver, Warhound, etc. and these being different. There is also a smaller Warhound mentioned but not named in Book 3.

 Looky Likey wrote:
Reading the FW HH books they are different chassis within a class now, Mars being one type of chassis with Mars Reaver, Warhound, etc. and these being different. There is also a smaller Warhound mentioned but not named in Book 3.

Well the Chassis are supposed to represent the Forgeworld of manufacture - Mars, Lucius, Metalicus, etc. Perhaps the naming is going along the lines of Warlord Class Titan, Mars Pattern, Nemesis Variant or some such. For example: Emperor Class Titan, Imperator (or Warmonger) variant and Mars Pattern. Though just had a quick flick through Conquest and found reference to a Maines class Titan alongside the known Nemesis, Carnivore and Nightgaunt.

Hopefully, FW will tidy up the naming convention or at least make it clearer.

Edit: Just posted on B&C on whether this is the Warlord or not:

Are we sure its not just a Knight Baron or Warden or whatever is there heavy ranged variant?

It is without a doubt ... I rang them [FW] they confirmed it ...

I have a problem understanding it, does Forgeworld say it is a Warlord? Or a Knight? Sorry, as a non-native speaker it really hard to make this out

Warhams-77 wrote:
I have a problem understanding it, does Forgeworld say it is a Warlord? Or a Knight? Sorry, as a non-native speaker it really hard to make this out

FW have said it is the Warlord

Awesome, thanks

what a great teaser, that music scared me, perfect looking model, whatever that is

It's identical to the ancient Adeptus Titanicus Warlord titans. I've found some art at El Descanso del Escriba. Luis doesn't like his images posted offsite, so I'll post a link instead.

http://descansodelescriba.blogspot.com.es/2013/05/la-guerra-es-justalos-primeros-grifos.html

Makes me wonder if FW will be redoing their Warhounds to bring them in line with the old Adeptus Titanicus / Armorcast ones.

Great teaser...and what a fab beast this Warlord is!!
Now I'm scared at the thought how this translates into money.
Guess my creditcard gets mutilated!

Righto, Warlord it is. I wonder how many points it will be, because if so, it will make for an excellent candidate for the Leviathan force org chart.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:
Reading the FW HH books they are different chassis within a class now, Mars being one type of chassis with Mars Reaver, Warhound, etc. and these being different. There is also a smaller Warhound mentioned but not named in Book 3.

Well the Chassis are supposed to represent the Forgeworld of manufacture - Mars, Lucius, Metalicus, etc. Perhaps the naming is going along the lines of Warlord Class Titan, Mars Pattern, Nemesis Variant or some such. For example: Emperor Class Titan, Imperator (or Warmonger) variant and Mars Pattern. Though just had a quick flick through Conquest and found reference to a Maines class Titan alongside the known Nemesis, Carnivore and Nightgaunt.

Hopefully, FW will tidy up the naming convention or at least make it clearer.

Edit: Just posted on B&C on whether this is the Warlord or not:

Are we sure its not just a Knight Baron or Warden or whatever is there heavy ranged variant?

It is without a doubt ... I rang them [FW] they confirmed it ...

I'm happier that it is a Warlord, glad somebody checked

I read it as:
0) Class
a) Pattern/Chassis
1) Warhound
a) Mars Warhound*
b) Lucius Warhound*
c) etc.
2) Reaver
a) Mars Reaver*
b) Carnivore Reaver
c) etc.
3) Warlord
a) Mars Warlord*
b) Nemesis Warlord
c) etc.

* are already launched

A chassis can vary in height, and look, what is not clear if they can vary in number of weapon mount points.

So I expect we are taking about the same structure?

 Looky Likey wrote:
I'm happier that it is a Warlord, glad somebody checked

I read it as:
0) Class
a) Pattern/Chassis
1) Warhound
a) Mars Warhound*
b) Lucius Warhound*
c) etc.
2) Reaver
a) Mars Reaver*
b) Carnivore Reaver
c) etc.
3) Warlord
a) Mars Warlord*
b) Nemesis Warlord
c) etc.

* are already launched

A chassis can vary in height, and look, what is not clear if they can vary in number of weapon mount points.

So I expect we are taking about the same structure?

I think that's close, though the Forgeworld of manufacture is also a designation as it follows on from how other imperial equipment is named. So, you'd be looking at 3 levels of designation, something like Warlord Class, Mars Pattern, Nemesis Variant.

Okay so it is a Warlord. I do wish it didn't look like just an upscaled Knight still, but I'm probably alone in that.

Good stitch:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Okay so it is a Warlord. I do wish it didn't look like just an upscaled Knight still, but I'm probably alone in that.

It has a knight styled head, and a few other parts, certainly, but is clearly Titan styled. It's just that the plastic and then resin knights changed to be much closer to the look of the Mars titans, compared to the old epic models.


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 d-usa wrote:
Good stitch:

Better one:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Question is- which of you would actually go buy a Warlord?! Lol.

Not I. The Reaver is too much for my blood.

Holy crap it does look massive. It'll probably grow on me hugely when I see more angles and stuff, and it's all a moot point anyway because I'll probably never own one...

What are we guessing for the cost of it?

Happened to have my gaming headset plugged in whilst watching that teaser- epic, just pure epic, especially with the Warlord! Pity it will be a few years till I will be able to afford such a beast really. Looks like a great model! I wonder if it will have alternate helmet designs.


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Are both the arm guns the same? 2 quake cannons? They look similar certainly.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Holy crap it does look massive. It'll probably grow on me hugely when I see more angles and stuff, and it's all a moot point anyway because I'll probably never own one...

What are we guessing for the cost of it?

Full Reaver load out is: £604.50, full Warhound load out is £341, so I'd guess £949 for the Warlord?

Anything under a £1k and I'll buy one, more than that and it would depend on quality, sizing etc. I really want a Chaos version as all my other Titans are the Chaos versions, so depending on price I will either buy now or wait another 12 months or so.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus.

Good lord, after those stitches, it looks massive. If this costs less than £1,000 I'll be surprised.

Upps, around 1K would be a bit too much for me, as I won't be able to use it in games.:(
But as I already have quite some titans...will have to see some pics first.