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When was the last time an Apocalypse book had Warlord rules in it? Might give us a vague idea of general stats.

I want the Plasma Destructor!

 ImAGeek wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Well, the eldar D spam rumours make a bit of sense now, I mean, there needs to be one army at least that is capable of taking that thing down without brining one of their own and praying... Colossal.

Well this is 30k so it's designed seperate from the 40k stuff.

Not necessarily. There is some cross over between the 30k range and the 40k, such as the knight titan variants.
Keep in mind that the first edition of apocalypse had rules for the warlord.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Well if it is a Warlord, I'm not impressed. Just a bigger Knight is not what I envisioned.

You're looking at it wrong. The Warlord is behind and above the knight. That gigantic cannon isn't the Knight, it's a bigger titan standing behind it.

EDIT NVM, seems to be a prototype older Warlord.

 BrookM wrote:
A.. a new Knight variant?

edit.



GLORIOUS.

So whos gonna buy one?

Wow. Just wow. That thing is absolutely gorgeous! I can't imagine how much it would cost, but hell, I can see why people would be tempted to put down the cash for it.

So... Does anybody want to donate to the "Let's Buy Hotrod a Warlord Titan Fund"?

Here you go... $20 or so. Most places have it on sale right now. It's 24" tall... perfect, right?

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Watch the video again. You know you want to. http://plasticmotorpool.blogspot.com/2015/04/forge-world-new-titan-preview.html

 Alpharius wrote:
I want the Plasma Destructor!

Me too, and more background for Legio Crucius. Gotta love the plasma FW

 whalemusic360 wrote:
When was the last time an Apocalypse book had Warlord rules in it? Might give us a vague idea of general stats.

First apoc book 2500 pts
14F 14S 13 R 9 structure points
6 Void shields
pg 124

So if they go by 3 HP per SP we are looking at 18 HP

Chances are FW will have a go with those rules and make it something of their own.

Wow, now those crazy people with Tau mantas can face off against something that can occupy the other half of the table.

 Medium of Death wrote:
Not really sold on the head.

I agree. It looks too much like a Castigator.

 HGChamberlainIV wrote:

Spoiler:

Here you go... $20 or so. Most places have it on sale right now. It's 24" tall... perfect, right?

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Watch the video again. You know you want to. http://plasticmotorpool.blogspot.com/2015/04/forge-world-new-titan-preview.html

Stop click-bait linking to your blog in every post, if you want to link to your blog simply put it in your signature.


Whilst I actually like what I see in the clip, I just don't get why they are making this, I really hope they sell enough for this to be profitable.

 OneManNoodles wrote:
I just don't get why they are making this

Because they can.

I really hope they sell enough for this to be profitable.

If GW is smart about it then it doesn't really matter if it's profitable. A model like this is a prestige project, you do it to show how awesome your game is, not because you expect to make a ton of money directly. You just want people to look at it and say "wow, I want to play a game with things like that". And maybe you even get them to think "well, I can't afford a titan, but maybe my budget can include a Baneblade".

 Peregrine wrote:

 OneManNoodles wrote:
I just don't get why they are making this

Because they can.

I really hope they sell enough for this to be profitable.

If GW is smart about it then it doesn't really matter if it's profitable. A model like this is a prestige project, you do it to show how awesome your game is, not because you expect to make a ton of money directly. You just want people to look at it and say "wow, I want to play a game with things like that". And maybe you even get them to think "well, I can't afford a titan, but maybe my budget can include a Baneblade".

Precisely, think along the lines of VW & Audi when they had Bugatti make the Veyron, they lost £4m on each car, but hey, it and those companies will struggle to be forgotton in the next 100, maybe 200 years.

Maybe they just want to put one in each 'flagship store' so the teens (amongst others!) have something to drool about.

 sonofruss wrote:

 whalemusic360 wrote:
When was the last time an Apocalypse book had Warlord rules in it? Might give us a vague idea of general stats.

First apoc book 2500 pts
14F 14S 13 R 9 structure points
6 Void shields
pg 124

So if they go by 3 HP per SP we are looking at 18 HP

27 hull points. Plus 6 void shields.

 whalemusic360 wrote:

 sonofruss wrote:

 whalemusic360 wrote:
When was the last time an Apocalypse book had Warlord rules in it? Might give us a vague idea of general stats.

First apoc book 2500 pts
14F 14S 13 R 9 structure points
6 Void shields
pg 124

So if they go by 3 HP per SP we are looking at 18 HP

27 hull points. Plus 6 void shields.

It will not Die

 sonofruss wrote:
It will not Die

Oh, it will die. You'll only be able to use it in Apocalypse games, which means the other side is going to have plenty of D-weapons to kill it with. A Warlord titan is almost never going to survive the first shooting phase.

That is a beautiful looking model! I do hope it has some head variants though, as of now it just looks like a big Knight.

Not sure anyone would actually buy the thing if it's going to cost $1500ish but then it will probably just be cast to order like the Manta.

Wow. Must get another job to buy one.

 Peregrine wrote:

 sonofruss wrote:
It will not Die

Oh, it will die. You'll only be able to use it in Apocalypse games, which means the other side is going to have plenty of D-weapons to kill it with. A Warlord titan is almost never going to survive the first shooting phase.

That depends on the other side having the D weapons and or choosing not to shoot my Reaver and Warhound too Titans are a go big or go home kinda thing if all my opponents big guns are shooting my big walking monster my other big walking monsters are free to let loose and take them out.

This is not the Prospero for which I was looking.

Its such a large divergence from current warlord pictures.. Looks more like a big Knight. It even has Knight iconography, could simply be a Knight that is closer to the camera.

 Peregrine wrote:

 sonofruss wrote:
It will not Die

Oh, it will die. You'll only be able to use it in Apocalypse games, which means the other side is going to have plenty of D-weapons to kill it with. A Warlord titan is almost never going to survive the first shooting phase.

Or you can use the Leviathan force org chart provided with the Crusade Army list red book.


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 Kirasu wrote:
Its such a large divergence from current warlord pictures.. Looks more like a big Knight. It even has Knight iconography, could simply be a Knight that is closer to the camera.

That's what I thought, but a crushing majority says I'm wrong.

 BrookM wrote:
Or you can use the Leviathan force org chart provided with the Crusade Army list red book.

Does that still have the 25% on LoW restriction? If so, that's a very big game

No way I can't see this having updated, official 40k rules almost as soon as it launches. In fact I would be suprised if they didn't post the rules on the site as experimental.

Does anybody remember when the Reaver came out and if the majority of the weapons launched with it, or did they trickle out?

 Kirasu wrote:
Its such a large divergence from current warlord pictures.. Looks more like a big Knight. It even has Knight iconography, could simply be a Knight that is closer to the camera.

Glad it's not just me that thinks it just looks like a big Knight and not like a Warlord.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Or you can use the Leviathan force org chart provided with the Crusade Army list red book.

Does that still have the 25% on LoW restriction? If so, that's a very big game

No, this one waves away the Lord of War restrictions and makes it an army of its own, complete with its own warlord trait.

With the option of two other lords of war as backup (albeit they are limited to 25%)

In fact, a Venatarii maniple (a Reaver and two Warhounds) is a perfectly legal 3,000 point army.

It'll be nice to see if this is a fair pairing for a warlord. The previous version was 2,500 points or so, but kind of underpowered for its stats compared to the reaver - since it only gained two shields and a single 'scout-weight" weapon. Since this version appears to mount "battle-weight" weapons even in the carapace, thats a whole different animal - even assuming the arm guns are also "battle-weights", that's twelve destroyer shots per turn (if they were all triple turbolasers) - enough to reliably kill two undamaged warhound titans in a single salvo!

To be honest, I love the model - I love all the titan models - but I'd really love to see some more detail put into titan-on-titan fights! Now we can essentially do a 2-3 engine Adeptus titanicus game in 40k scale, it'd be nice if there were enough detail in the superheavy rules to support it...

 BrookM wrote:
Or you can use the Leviathan force org chart provided with the Crusade Army list red book.

Which, thankfully, is 30k-only and explicitly requires your opponent to agree to let you use a special variant FOC instead of the normal one. You're never going to see a Warlord used that way except maybe as an occasional screwing around game where everyone knows it will probably be unbalanced.