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Samus looks like a late 90's GW model. Not a fan.

The guy with the spying glass and stuff is probably top 3 greatest models ever.

Really don't like the paint job or the pose for Samus, neither makes it look good to me and I think if both had been done better I'd have been more interested in it.

 Looky Likey wrote:
Really don't like the paint job or the pose for Samus, neither makes it look good to me and I think if both had been done better I'd have been more interested in it.

Looks like he's playing cricket and bowling for the wickets. "HOWZAT!?"

 zedmeister wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:
Really don't like the paint job or the pose for Samus, neither makes it look good to me and I think if both had been done better I'd have been more interested in it.

Looks like he's playing cricket and bowling for the wickets. "HOWZAT!?"

awesome spot!

I like his rules more than the model. T7? Jees! Better than a BT but good that he can be taken in a Deamonkin force.
The SA models are lovely but I'm not collecting them so no pain re the price for me!!

 Peregrine wrote:
Sigh. How I wish FW would stop making command squads with terrible weapon upgrades. Give me 4x melta or 4x plasma, not grenade launchers and worthless leadership banners. I might be tempted by them if I didn't have to choose between repeating the same pose (they don't look like they'd be very easy to convert) or crippling my army rules-wise. But as-is they're nice models but way too expensive for something that's never going to leave the display shelf.

May want to read the unit entry then, as only two models may have a special weapon and the other upgrades, such as the cohort standard and nuncio vox come as standard kit for the unit.

Holy fething gak balls! That command squad is baller as feth. Flintlocks, cutlasses, diving armour. God damn those guys are mint.

I would have snapped that SA Leader/Colonel in an instant if he was a show only or separate character say £12-£16 rather than this years Space Marine ones. But i'll be dammed if I'm gonna spend £65 to get it!

The Devil's buttocks!

I had imagined Samus as something creepy, not beastly. I didn't even know he had been established as a daemon of Khorne, with all the emphasis on betrayal and paranoia it had back when the character first appeared on Horus Rising.

Samus model is awesome. I never imagined him to look beastly (or be a Deamon of Khorne), though that fact is chaos in itself
Also dat command squad... looks bloody amazing.

Boop, following up on rumours and FW stuff.

The Auxilia command squad is unbelievable, maybe a new best for Forge World. Unfortunately, the price is just as unbelievable. About twice what I'd pay for a kit I'm not going to game with.

Samus is far less armored and female and bounty hunter-y than I was hoping for (I know, I know ).

I feel that I should point out that not all Daemons of Khorne are slavering berserk psychopaths. Some of them can be pretty scheming douche bags (whose end game is mass bloodshed).

Samus is the first daemon low war choice that can be taken (in a normal-sized army) and is great at what he does. I'll probably try him out sometime or another, as even though his ability can screw you over (although you generally throw 2+ extra warp dice into invisibility/cursed earth/iron arm/any scary psychic power to prevent dtw) it hurts stuff like GK a lot more. For 375 points he is a steal.

That Samus is... wow..

Forgeworld have fallen far indeed.

I don't get all the hate for Samus. Why does everyone seem to have a hate boner for the model?

Not looking for to when the Adam model gets released, it'll ruin the Samus model forever.

Yeah, no fan of Samus. He looks like he belongs in WHFB. I'd love for something less bestial and more distinct.

The command squad is A+.

 Snrub wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Samus. Why does everyone seem to have a hate boner for the model?

It's a pretty generic demon really, with some patches of hair that seem very out of place. The skin might be just a really bad paintjob but it seems to lack detail and, while more textured than a GW plastic kit, distinctly lacking in texture. The anatomy is off in places, particularly imo the neck which seems too long and, combined with the teeth and pose makes me think more of a skaven than a demon. In fact while typing this I pointed a couple of non-GW at the unpainted image and asked them if it where skaven or a demon, one said demon the other was unsure. The side abs where also pointed out by those friends and I agree it has clearly been doing its stomach crunches wrong. I'm also not sure what the back spikes are supposed to be for but it feels like the laziest possible way of adding 'chaosyness' to a model without any actual reason beyond it being chaos. There also appears to be a chaos star brand on its back, you can see one of the points on his left shoulder, it has the play doh level of detail that ruined the alpha legion shoulder pads and night lords helmets for me.

 Snrub wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Samus. Why does everyone seem to have a hate boner for the model?

For a demon that was in a few HH books, I was hoping for something less generic. He possessed space marines before it was cool!

I like big models like the bloodthirster posed like they're fething up ankle sized guys, this idiot looks like he woke up late and only had time to grab a knife and two pieces of armor before running out of the house.

 Snrub wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Samus. Why does everyone seem to have a hate boner for the model?

The Samus from the HH novels seemed creepy, terrifying, and unstoppable. This one looks like a big, red, angry, hairless ferret.

I never got anything like this from the 'appearance' or feeling of the Samus from the novels. I didn't see it as huge, buff, nearly naked, and packing a shiv. I saw it as malevolent, relentless, and paranoia-inducing. It could be inside your best friend's body, or inside the guy you just shot. If it had been a formless demon emerging from the corpse of a marine--cool. Skinny, wingless bloodthirster--no thank you.

It also screams Trish Cardiff. If you like her stuff, great. If you don't, you won't like this one either.

 Snrub wrote:
I don't get all the hate for Samus. Why does everyone seem to have a hate boner for the model?

I think it's mostly just disappointment that the model isn't very impressive. It's not a terrible model, it's just not a very exciting one either. And apparently it's a character that people had hoped to see get more than just a not-terrible model.


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 BrookM wrote:
May want to read the unit entry then, as only two models may have a special weapon and the other upgrades, such as the cohort standard and nuncio vox come as standard kit for the unit.

Yeah, I know rules-wise it's another of FW's idiotic "variant IG command squads always suck" units, but they could have at least given a second melta gun instead of the useless grenade launcher that nobody will ever take. And giving them 4x melta or 4x plasma would make the models useful in a 40k IG army. At that price a kit really needs to be useful on the tabletop without having to buy additional conversion parts/models just to make the squad even remotely useful rules-wise.

Samus doesn't look that bad, I don't think red is a great colour for it and it is a bit too top heavy, not as bad as the Tyranid "DIMACHAERON" but getting there.

Still It'd make a really sweet skaven, add clumps of matted fur, a ratty tail to help with balance and get rid of that marine.

As for that command squad, wow... just wow

That command squad surely is some of the most outstanding work FW has ever done, the detail on those models is insane.

Samus on the other hand is really 'MEH'. Not a bad sculpt but it's very... bland, and that pose, sheeesh! I kind of understand the idea behind it but its still a really, really bad pose.

Had expected more from Samus than "Big Scary Monster", the character had (have!) so much more potential to make something awsome of rather than a "monster smashes all mariines! duuuuh!"-CC Beatstick.

Bland model, bad execution of rules to represent the literary character.

Hm... Samus sucks.

This guy would be a good base for a Inquistor though. I wonder how I can nab one?

I hear FW sells em...

Well joking aside, I don't see them selling him separate.

They look like ideal Rogue Trader models, in my opinion.

The Lord Marshal can also be a Rogue Trader Militant.

 Ashiraya wrote:
They look like ideal Rogue Trader models, in my opinion.

I was thinking the same thing. The cutlasses, sashes, gold frogging, and holstered, las-lock pistols really invoke that swashbucklers-in-space vibe. Really beautiful sculpts.