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 Accolade wrote:
Maybe I should sell all of my 40k stuff and buy a Warlord. That way when people ask if I play 40k I can nod yes and when they ask the army, I canjust say "Warlord titan"

If you field a Warlord Titan, you don't play 40K; you win 40K.

Da Butcha wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
Maybe I should sell all of my 40k stuff and buy a Warlord. That way when people ask if I play 40k I can nod yes and when they ask the army, I canjust say "Warlord titan"

If you field a Warlord Titan, you don't play 40K; you win 40K.

Until you run into Eldar.

They could even run a Phantom just for overkill.

 Alpharius wrote:
A Warlord Titan is going to be moving much, if at all, ever, on a 40K table, is it?

Maybe if you're playing 4' x 8' the long ways?

In my opinion the only reason to move a Reaver or Warlord is to get in to CC In my Apoc game during Game Storm I could hit the entire table and the Apoc launcher has a 30 foot range.

Honestly, meh. Yeah yeah, oooh shiny it's a Warlord, but lets be honest here 99.99% of us are never even going to see one outside of pics online, let alone actually buy one. Wake me up when FW get back to their regular schedule of models most people can actually afford and the Solar Auxilia command squad goes up for sale.

 Alpharius wrote:
A Warlord Titan is going to be moving much, if at all, ever, on a 40K table, is it?

Maybe if you're playing 4' x 8' the long ways?

A 4 by 8 table lengthways is the smallest table I'd want to use any of my Titans on and I would prefer playing on 4 by 12. Playing widthways is just a bloodbath and removes any tactical manoeuvring and the point of some of the longer range weapons like the Volcano cannon as the Titan can see and shoot everything on the board. Tall LOS blocking scenery is a must as well, its no fun if the game is decided by who gets first turn.

If I get my Warlord I'd field it with at least a pair of Warhounds, the Warhounds would range ahead while the Warlord would command some of the fire lanes from back of the board.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Honestly, meh. Yeah yeah, oooh shiny it's a Warlord, but lets be honest here 99.99% of us are never even going to see one outside of pics online, let alone actually buy one. Wake me up when FW get back to their regular schedule of models most people can actually afford and the Solar Auxilia command squad goes up for sale.

This is how I feel. If I wanted to play games large enough to include a warlord, I'd rather play epic were I don't need 4x12 table! Lol

Personally I'm excited for the fact book 5 is coming out in the next month or so. I'm super excited to see what they do for the milita and warp cult armies planned for the book.

The solar auxilia are sort of the 30k storm troopers from what I understand. The milita will be more like the 30k ig i'm looking foreword to.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Honestly, meh. Yeah yeah, oooh shiny it's a Warlord, but lets be honest here 99.99% of us are never even going to see one outside of pics online, let alone actually buy one. Wake me up when FW get back to their regular schedule of models most people can actually afford and the Solar Auxilia command squad goes up for sale.

That's ironic, considering your current "rank" on Dakka!

Personally, I can't wait for the Warlord. I first saw MKI "Beetlebacks" in the flesh in the late 80's, and never dreamed I'd see a production model.

Sort of related, but I sent an email to FW yesterday asking about PDF updates to some of the now-outdated lists in print and PDF form and a general question regarding whether or not we'll see Iron Warriors and Alpha Legion unique units within the next year or so, as they're currently the most lacking alongside Raven Guard for their HH lineup.

Historically, you'd get some kind of response which while vague, will respond to your question - PDFs are planned timeline still uncertain, models were the same "they're in the pipeline" sort of thing, and if releases were imminent you'd sometimes get specifics - within X months, though not often.

On both fronts, I got the generic pre-made message of "Rules questions have been sent off to FAQ team" with various faux-latin and in-universe writing, the same response I've seen other people refer to as of late, and a faux-latin "no comment" (The Emperor has decreed "Queitus Maximus) on the other front.

Granted, I wasn't really expecting precise results, but the nature of the response feels like FW is changing its customer service approach from the less personal, immediate approach they've used in the past to a more "GW Prime" say nothing, offer nothing model. Maybe has something to do with being folded into the main site?

That kind of matches my experience of ringing up FW for at least the last twelve months if not longer. Since the death of the FW facebook page they have become much tighter on new releases, you have to go to an event like the Weekender or wait for information to leak from it to get the low down on what is planned for future release.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Honestly, meh. Yeah yeah, oooh shiny it's a Warlord, but lets be honest here 99.99% of us are never even going to see one outside of pics online, let alone actually buy one. Wake me up when FW get back to their regular schedule of models most people can actually afford and the Solar Auxilia command squad goes up for sale.

Probably about right. Whilst I am a huge Titan fan and it'll be nice to see this produced and updated to a modern look, those of us ambitious enough to own, build and paint one will very rarely get a chance to use it. As for me, I'll stick with Epic and Adeptus Titanicus games and plan, think and put off building my FW Warhound to some point in the distant future...

My Castigator sucks now compared to the new knight w/assault cannon and available carapace upgrades; they better do something if they want to sell any more.

I sent them an email about the possibility of releasing a generic marine brass etch set (no chapter specific stuff, but using the base iconography of many of the existing sheets) last month and got nothing but an acknowledgement of receipt auto-generated email.

 agnosto wrote:
My Castigator sucks now compared to the new knight w/assault cannon and available carapace upgrades; they better do something if they want to sell any more.

No the Castigator still has the ability to automatically hit an invisible unit in close combat which when combined with Deflagrate can really do a number on the enemy. The castigator will also clock in at about 50pts cheaper depending on upgrades.


I myself really like the new Laser Destroyer Vindicator tank. Not for the crowded loyalists heavy slots, but for the Chaos Space marine heavy slot. I think this new tank can be more valuable in the CSM list.

DarthDiggler wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
My Castigator sucks now compared to the new knight w/assault cannon and available carapace upgrades; they better do something if they want to sell any more.

No the Castigator still has the ability to automatically hit an invisible unit in close combat which when combined with Deflagrate can really do a number on the enemy. The castigator will also clock in at about 50pts cheaper depending on upgrades.

That's a good point, I just never thought of it because no one that I play runs invis units. The sword is great crowd control, I was mainly thinking of the shooting. The gun and optional missile launcher. If nothing else, it'd be nice if FW offers missile launcher upgrades for their kits.

Ooh, good point on the anti-invisible counter, I've got an Eldar player who loves to pull off invisibility shenanigans a lot.

fething feth. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/SOLAR_AUXILIA_TACTICAL_COMMAND.html



















DEM BODYGUARDS.



Also, this turd: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/SAMUS.html



edit.

Samus rules: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/S/Samus.pdf

The Solar Auxilia guys look amazing! Really nice stuff!
Samus is pretty badass- why does he hate infantry though??

Samus is... umm... well she's outgrown her armour, that's for sure.

Nevermind

Command squad is awesome - but £65 ? Surely a misprint ?

Love the command squad, very fitting.

The Daemon is, well, uninspired. Really, really generic. Not impressed at all...

I was just planning a purchase on Samus, it looks awesome.

The Command Squad is amazing.

I only have two words for Samus: Trish Carden.

Sigh. How I wish FW would stop making command squads with terrible weapon upgrades. Give me 4x melta or 4x plasma, not grenade launchers and worthless leadership banners. I might be tempted by them if I didn't have to choose between repeating the same pose (they don't look like they'd be very easy to convert) or crippling my army rules-wise. But as-is they're nice models but way too expensive for something that's never going to leave the display shelf.

They were a must buy until i saw the price !! Think I'll get a knight titan instead.

Now as they state they are separate units i cant see why they wouldn't sell the Marshall buy himself i can see him flying out for £20-25.

The price certainly is quite odd - Elysian and DKoK Command Squads are in the high 20s, not 65.

Now, as the only thing I actually need for a SA force is a few infantry squads, I can justify it, as I'm relying heavily on a surplus of tanks currently sitting unused, but damn if that isn't crazy.

Well Samus is an autotake for my daemons. I just wish he could have that warlord trait in normal 40k.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
The Command Squad is amazing.

I only have two words for Samus: Trish Carden.

So is that good or bad? Cause generally, I quite like her stuff.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

Samus reminds me very much of the GW metal Bloodthirster and Keeper of Secrets, it suffers from the same flaws in my opinion.

That price is certainly...interesting. Around £12 for a "boutique" resin character model isn't particularly unusual, but it's the fact you have to buy six models at that price at the same time and the comparison to existing IG command squads they make that results in the sticker-shock.

Damnit, I really wanted the leader and the Strategos bloke, but I'm not sure if I can find a use for the others and those two will probably end up costing £60-odd quid on the aftermarket anyway now. I suppose we should have seen this coming after the £40 Veletaris Storm Section and Flamer Section.