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 BrookM wrote:
Princeps is nice, love that he's half machine, but holding a good old fashioned clipboard.

Haha, slightly traffic warden-esque. He's there to clamp that illegally parked Titan

Still like him though...

I do wonder if the head is a separate piece.

Good that he is not in the tank, lie the warlord pattern described in Titanicus by Abnett.

Vintersorg wrote:
Good that he is not in the tank, lie the warlord pattern described in Titanicus by Abnett.

If they spend enough time in there, then it's the fish tank treatment.

Anyone going on the day and able to pick up that Princeps on the sly? Rather liking that model.

Guilliman looks bomb as feth. Nice.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

Vintersorg wrote:
Good that he is not in the tank, lie the warlord pattern described in Titanicus by Abnett.

If they spend enough time in there, then it's the fish tank treatment.

Nah, it's actually the titan pattern that decides if they use one system or the other. In the one with the tank you are sumberged from day one. The only thing that changes are how much of your body is mechanical. With time priceps will remove as much flesh as they can.

Sweet Princeps, that's the sort of model I was expecting at Salute. Making more Space Marines isn't special when you make predominantly Space Marines!

I'm mostly interested to see what Chaos Cultist/Imperial Militia kits come out of this release, I'm prone to looting most types of guard looking miniatures for my IA13 Renegades army and could do with more toys to convert.

 Melcavuk wrote:
I'm mostly interested to see what Chaos Cultist/Imperial Militia kits come out of this release, I'm prone to looting most types of guard looking miniatures for my IA13 Renegades army and could do with more toys to convert.

I suspect there won't be many, if any new models for them.

FW's range of guard miniatures, as well as GW's for that matter, provide a wide range of suitable models (to say nothing of artermarket producers). Earlier in the HH product lifetime, FW was recorded as saying they don't intend on doing full ranges of Imperial Army models, but rather a wide range of IA lists to represent how diverse and non-standard they were with the intention of using existing models. It means they don't end up making models with very limited applications, and can draw a large pool of IG players into the game for whom it would be fairly inexpensive, increasing the general player pool. Solar Auxilia are the exception, being a passion project by one of the sculptors FW decided to roll with, and provides that much more temptation for IG players (especially given the state of the Guard in 40k).

I believe their intention was produce specialists and variants, but no more whole ranges. Say, more models using Death Korps, Elysians, Cadians and Vostroyans, probably, as a base or with a shared aesthetic. HQs, Volkite toting guys, 30k specific stuff to complement existing ranges.

At least that's what the plan was; of course if the Solar Auxilia does well we'd probably get more Army types, and if not probably less so.

Just looked through the Warhammer World web page and there is mention in there that there will be a WW exclusive FW model in the shop. I wonder if it will be their normal event exclusive, or something else?

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 Jadenim wrote:
Just looked through the Warhammer World web page and there is mention in there that there will be a WW exclusive FW model in the shop. I wonder if it will be their normal event exclusive, or something else?

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Yes, it's in Forgeworld's announcement: a Princeps model.

Anyway, I think it would be appropriate for Guilliman to have the same ability as Zandrekh to choose a new warlord trait every turn.

 Jadenim wrote:
Just looked through the Warhammer World web page and there is mention in there that there will be a WW exclusive FW model in the shop. I wonder if it will be their normal event exclusive, or something else?

edit for iPad typing fail...

It appears that the model in question is the 2015 Event Only model, the just announced Princeps Majoris.

He mustn't be very good if he's taken that sort of damage while inside a warlord titan

They have announced less than I was expecting, wish they had given a heads up on the Warlord's price as well, I'm guessing trying to avoid sticker shock with that one.

Planning on picking up the Princeps Majoris, he was a nice surprise, shall fit in nicely with the Mechanicum HQ I'm building: Navigator, TItan Princeps, Archmagos Draykavac,etc.

He looks like he regrets getting that shiny new metal arm. With such limited articulation, he just can't draw pictures of Warlords like he used to.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Guilliman looks bomb as feth. Nice.

Second. And third. Going to be hard to not get that model... and like 3000pt of Ultramarines to keep him company.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

Spoiler:

He looks like he regrets getting that shiny new metal arm. With such limited articulation, he just can't draw pictures of Warlords like he used to.

Something like this probably happened. (Forgive the french subtitles)




LOL.

 Looky Likey wrote:
They have announced less than I was expecting, wish they had given a heads up on the Warlord's price as well, I'm guessing trying to avoid sticker shock with that one.

Planning on picking up the Princeps Majoris, he was a nice surprise, shall fit in nicely with the Mechanicum HQ I'm building: Navigator, TItan Princeps, Archmagos Draykavac,etc.

Me too, but then thinking about it, the Warlord model, the next book, and the next Primarch model are all pretty massive releases haha. The Titan is over £1000 with the weapons, they told Atia on bolter and chainsword when she asked on the phone.

I'd be curious to see how often those big marque models like the Manta and the Warlord are ordered. I don't doubt that they price them to cover their costs and then some as they're not going to take a financial hit on each but rather whether it is worth the design time put into it compared with expanding other (non-contemptor!) model lines.

The Manta and the Fortress Walls(previously the only two "really big" kits they had) were always 'cast to order' kits, so they don't just keep them sitting around in large quantities from my understanding.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The Manta and the Fortress Walls(previously the only two "really big" kits they had) were always 'cast to order' kits, so they don't just keep them sitting around in large quantities from my understanding.

Agreed but my point was rather in regards to them spending the design time and resources in catching up with models not yet done. For instance, coming out with ALL the models in the next HH book (if Warlord free) available for sale right away instead of staggering them over the next year just like they do with codex releases now.

 Ratius wrote:

I hated that prick.

 Melcavuk wrote:
I'm mostly interested to see what Chaos Cultist/Imperial Militia kits come out of this release, I'm prone to looting most types of guard looking miniatures for my IA13 Renegades army and could do with more toys to convert.

In the trailer I spotted a bunch of the existing chaos militia, and chaos Rouge psyker.

The idea I think will be just to use the existing ig ranges, the winged skull is OK, but no double headed egals. Shave them off.

Both the winged skull and any type of eagle are badges of honour and recognition amongst the forces of the Imperium.

The winged skull in particular, which is now the symbol of the Imperial Guard, was back then a badge of honour to denote that unit showed particular bravery or suffered a great loss but endured.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I believe their intention was produce specialists and variants, but no more whole ranges. Say, more models using Death Korps, Elysians, Cadians and Vostroyans, probably, as a base or with a shared aesthetic. HQs, Volkite toting guys, 30k specific stuff to complement existing ranges.

FW YOU MUST DO THIS. If I don't get volkite DKoK I'm going to be really disappointed with 30k.

DKoK didn't exist till m.40, sadly.

Yeah, but the general aesthetic has existed since ~1914... It wouldn't be actual DKoK, just IA troops with a similar aesthetic. May not even have similar battle doctrines. I don't think there would be no greatcoat clad troops using a (presumably) STC pattern of respirator and the basic stahlhelm design in the Great Crusade. The Lucius pattern lasrifle also looks similar to the Kalibrav pattern lasrifle (although probably still inferior in the GC, unless Lucius has lost the ability to make excellent lasguns since then).

I really wouldn't be surprised if FW did release DKoK troopers with Volkite weaponry under some new, GC name.

Argh that warlord is not what I imagined at all. It was always going to be way beynd my hobby budget but it's definitely a lazy offering from FW. Still though would have been nice to have some decent proper warlord style eye candy. The driver is pretty cool though.