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**Nomeny**

Woo, Multi-launchers! AKA Rocket Launchers, AKA Apocalypse Missile Launcher.

**SirDonlad**

These upper carapace weapons are going to make for some truly jaw dropping fortification projects!

**warboss**

Spoiler:

While I'm not a particular fan of the curvy style as compared to the blocky armor style, that is a very nice lineup of models. I kind of which they had put them in order of height along with a slew of knights (both their own variants as well as a few plastics) for the full Titan Legion class picture.

**Haighus**

Well, they have got a Cerastus Knight, a Warhound, Reaver and Warlord all in order, it just then drops back down to another Warhound, and then it would appear another Reaver.

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SirDonlad wrote:
These upper carapace weapons are going to make for some truly jaw dropping fortification projects!

That will be great to see

I do like a good fort (which is a good thing, living in the Welsh Marches, there are castles everywhere).

**the_Armyman**

BrookM wrote:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/FORGE_WORLD_BULLETIN_66.html

Imperial Titans on display in the Warhammer World Exhibition Centre.

That pic is droolworthy. Not just a titan, not just titans, but a fully-painted lineup of resin beauties. I'll probably never own anything bigger than a knight, but they're so damned cool to look at and imagine stomping across the battlefield

God Machines of Mankind indeed!

**Nevelon**

I get the feeling the Warlord wants to scratch the Warhound behind the ears and say “Good doggie! Now, Sic’em!!"

**kronk**

Pretty models!

I'll never own more than my Warhound, but those are pretty!

**Orlanth**

I saw this thread, but why not discuss the warlord separately rather than one page 72 of another thread.

An official warlord titan model has been a big dream and a big wait for so long.

**zedmeister**

Orlanth wrote:

An official warlord titan model has been a big dream and a big wait for so long.

We've had plenty of official Warlord Titan models

Shame the latest is not in 6mm scale with attendant game to go with it...

**RiTides**

Here's Orlanth's excellent writeup of the Warlord Titan release, for the record!

Orlanth wrote:
It's now on Pre-order.

The Titan weighs in at £1240, though that is with worldwide free delivery. There are no weapon options so far, you have to take laser blasters and volcano cannon or wait for later.

Scaling is right, but it is nevertheless a new design, the fourth Warlord chassis design so far.

More stompy images.

The titan has secondary weapons. This is not new, you used to be able to add 'carapace multilasers' for free, and in the rule every titan head had heavy bolter for the princeps to use when needed, though often he was way too busy to make use of it.

Rear loading hatch and balcony soon. As a design feature it fits rule of cool, but the balcony should be drawbridged or otherwise dully retractable. If an assault marine with melta gun jumps there it's all over. The Princeps model comes with the titan by the way. Note the rear facing twin-linked heavy stubber turrets, nice addition, but like the Eldar titans this deserves a more potent range of free add on weaponry.

The addition of th hood makes the head much smaller than for previous warlords, which had a fairly specious command deck and room for four Moderati plus the Princeps. This model goes against that part of the background, its far more cramped, smaller than the Reaver head interior it appears. I musdt admit to being disappointed, I would have loved to see an interior similar to the deck scenes on the Imperius Dictatio, which an older style head would have had room for. What they should have done here was give the titan a face not a head and extend the command deck onto the hull as a bridge. with a face as a mask/helmet in front. This would have kept the style and the size but also allowed room for a proper command deck.

No engineering deck on this titan, I wonder if they bothered to sculpt one. Pity if they did not, at £1240 you have paid for the whole titan, there should be the normal servitors wired in, techpriests and at least one,preferably two internal decks with detail.

All in all I am less impressed than I should be, and it cut corners, but it's still a warlord titan in 40K scale, and if nothing else it hardens the scale now, which should do something to prevent the five foot mega- titan syndrome.

For those who missed it coverage in this thread starts on page 67 with Fireball's post here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1980/639757.page#7933128

Love it

even though I will never own it...

**MajorWesJanson**

To address a couple of points that Orlanth made:
It is somewhat a new design, but only slightly. It's pretty close to the old Mk I Mars pattern Beetleback Epic model, just updated to functional 28mm scale. The major difference between this and the epic model is the Carapace being a bit more segmented and the addition of Lucius style reactor ridges up top. I'd call it a Mk Ia really, as opposed to the Mk II Metallica pattern, the Lucius Pattern, or the Apocalypse pattern.

Rear guns are not Stubbers, but Twin Linked Lascannons, a rather more effective defense against invading Assault Marines.

Agree that the head is smaller than would be optimal, but Titan size and crew is all over the place in the fluff. Looking at the pictures, the head is not smaller than the Reaver, but slightly larger. It's like the Warhound with the moderatii side by side in the front, while the Reaver has them to each side of the Princeps, making the head wider but shorter and more cramped. The Reaver head may appear wider because of the cables that stick out to the sides, but the Warlord head is about twice as tall and longer. It may not be a Star Trek style bridge, but this head is quite spacious compared to the Reaver that is more like a B52 cockpit.

They could have made the head larger though. It they made the interior section a bit wider, say 3/4 or an inch or so, they could have jammed in another pair of crew.

No engineering section I can live with, as it was a design compromise to allow for a solid core body, instead of filling it with an interior and having to add a bunch more removable parts so you could see the inside.

**Lockark**

also thows don't look like heavy bolters. they look like mauler bolters.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Mechanicum/Mechanicum_Troops/CASTELLAX_BATTLE_AUTOMATA.html

**BrookM**

Aye, they are Ardex-Defensor pattern mauler bolt cannons along with Ardex-Defensor twin-linked lascannons covering the back, NOT twin-linked stubbers like pointlessly speculated above.

**Haighus**

Hmm, makes me wonder just how many secondary guns they will have on an Emperor if they ever get round to one. Well, probably more tertiary guns really, seeing as the lesser Titan-class weapons are secondary weapons on an Imperator. I know the old Apocalypse datasheet had fire points for the embarked models.

Also, how high is that gantry above the table-top level? If it is more than 12" high, an Assault Marine wouldn't be able to reach it anyway. Edit: looks like it is just in range, but the Marine would have to be directly below it. Would make for epic stuff in game! I know it is technically against the rules, but I would totally allow that gantry as a Battlement for units to stand on.

Also really like how the Warlord and Warhound look together- a Warlord flanked by a pair of Warhounds would look epic, like a warrior with his faithful wardogs. Would put me back 2 grand though, so that will have to wait awhile.

**BrookM**

The Warlord has quite an arsenal of options for both the carapace and its arms. The point defence weapons are fixed however.

**Haighus**

BrookM wrote:
The Warlord has quite an arsenal of options for both the carapace and its arms. The point defence weapons are fixed however.

Yeah, this is a pity, as I would personally want to swap out the lascannons for more maulers IMO. Or at least stick the lascannons pointing forward and the maulers rearward.

But I was talking about a theoretical Emperor class, which would probably be festooned in weaponry.

**aka_mythos**

Realistically there are probably only a few rooms inside... but it would be cool to play out a scenario where a player could try to destroy the Warlord from the inside, if they can land some assault marines on the back. They can run around a side board a "zone mortalis" like series of rooms and levels to fight to different subsections that can effect the Warlords use in a larger game. Survive being stomped, survive those rear lascannons overwatching... ok now you're on the balcony and you have a slim chance of busting in the door... oh now you're inside... small cadre of skitariii are stationed on it... but if you're successful maybe it stops shooting a weapon or walking and stomping, or its void shields reduced.

**Haighus**

aka_mythos wrote:
Realistically there are probably only a few rooms inside... but it would be cool to play out a scenario where a player could try to destroy the Warlord from the inside, if they can land some assault marines on the back. They can run around a side board a "zone mortalis" like series of rooms and levels to fight to different subsections that can effect the Warlords use in a larger game. Survive being stomped, survive those rear lascannons overwatching... ok now you're on the balcony and you have a slim chance of busting in the door... oh now you're inside... small cadre of skitariii are stationed on it... but if you're successful maybe it stops shooting a weapon or walking and stomping, or its void shields reduced.

...or they even manage to get a melta-bomb into the plasma reactor....

Sounds fun though. Could add the head as the ultimate target- boarding and taking control of the Titan as a spoil of war, with a slim chance of the thing going berserk and fighting by itself if the the Princeps is killed.

**Sinful Hero**

So now that we have the Emperor, it needs a suitable enemy to face across from...such as the Tyranid Dominatrix.

**Ashiraya**

It's a Warlord, not an Emperor.

**Deadshot**

Haighus wrote:
Hmm, makes me wonder just how many secondary guns they will have on an Emperor if they ever get round to one. Well, probably more tertiary guns really, seeing as the lesser Titan-class weapons are secondary weapons on an Imperator. I know the old Apocalypse datasheet had fire points for the embarked models.

Also, how high is that gantry above the table-top level? If it is more than 12" high, an Assault Marine wouldn't be able to reach it anyway. Edit: looks like it is just in range, but the Marine would have to be directly below it. Would make for epic stuff in game! I know it is technically against the rules, but I would totally allow that gantry as a Battlement for units to stand on.

Also really like how the Warlord and Warhound look together- a Warlord flanked by a pair of Warhounds would look epic, like a warrior with his faithful wardogs. Would put me back 2 grand though, so that will have to wait awhile.

I would love to see that on the tabletop but the fluffnut in me would be screaming inside. Imperial Titans are prohibited from operating in units of more than a single Titan (or a pair for the Warhounds) due to the atrocities of squad-size Warhound packs and Reaver packs during the Heresy). Seeing a Warlord flanked by a Reaver pair and a pack of Warhounds in Imperial colours would simulataneously have me saying "awesome" and "fuuuuuuu."

**Orlanth**

Something of note I missed, the carapace weapons are not lighter titan weapons like in the current datafax. Lasblasters are heavy titan weapons. This is good as it brings the titan back to it's stats in Epic. So maybe we can have plasma destructors and quake cannon on the carapace like the beetleback often had.
It also means you don't miss out on so much if you take a titan ccw, which while generally a poor use of a hardpoint is great for style and fun.

Nice catch on the specifics on the point defense weapons, wish to you could add a heavy bolter to a Reaver for flavour like in old epic.

**Sinful Hero**

Ashiraya wrote:
It's a Warlord, not an Emperor.

Meh, close enough. I don't bother remembering all these boring Imperial names.

**Jehan-reznor**

angelofvengeance wrote:
What are these supposed to be then??

Spoiler:

Maybe it doubles also as a saxophone?

It looks great, wish i had the space for it.

**Alpharius**

Sinful Hero wrote:
Ashiraya wrote:
It's a Warlord, not an Emperor.

Meh, close enough. I don't bother remembering all these boring Imperial names.

Not even close to 'close enough'!

**Enigwolf**

BrookM wrote:Aye, they are Ardex-Defensor pattern mauler bolt cannons along with Ardex-Defensor twin-linked lascannons covering the back, NOT twin-linked stubbers like pointlessly speculated above.

What exactly does Ardex-Defensor give the weapons, compared to normal?

Deadshot wrote:I would love to see that on the tabletop but the fluffnut in me would be screaming inside. Imperial Titans are prohibited from operating in units of more than a single Titan (or a pair for the Warhounds) due to the atrocities of squad-size Warhound packs and Reaver packs during the Heresy). Seeing a Warlord flanked by a Reaver pair and a pack of Warhounds in Imperial colours would simulataneously have me saying "awesome" and "fuuuuuuu."

Didn't that only apply to Warhounds? Reavers still operate in maniples when supporting Warlords and Imperators.

**Peregrine**

Enigwolf wrote:
What exactly does Ardex-Defensor give the weapons, compared to normal?

Overwatch and BS 2 snap shots.

**BrookM**

Enigwolf wrote:
BrookM wrote:Aye, they are Ardex-Defensor pattern mauler bolt cannons along with Ardex-Defensor twin-linked lascannons covering the back, NOT twin-linked stubbers like pointlessly speculated above.

What exactly does Ardex-Defensor give the weapons, compared to normal?

They are point-defence weapons that may always overwatch at BS 2, not that there's a lot that can hurt a Warlord in assaults.

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The Warlord has the following arm options:
Belicosa pattern volcano cannons (standard issue)
Sunfury plasma annihilator
Mori quake cannon
Saturnyne lascutter
Arioch titan power claw
Macro-gatling blaster

And the following carapace options:
Two Apocalypse missile launchers (standard issue)
Two double-barrelled turbo laser destructors
Two twin-linked vulcan mega-bolters
Two titan plasma blastguns
Two Reaver laser blasters
Two Reaver melta cannons
Two Reaver gatling blasters
Two vortex missile banks
Two incinerator missile banks

"Standard issue" being what the model starts out with in the army list entry.

**ImAGeek**

Formosa wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Pretty crap photo but the Nurgle daemon prince shown at the opening weekend must be out soon because here it is painted:

Is that my picture lol

I dunno, I got it off Twitter. Apologies if it was, but I haven't seen your original with the screen anywhere to have taken that.

**Enigwolf**

BrookM wrote:
Enigwolf wrote:
BrookM wrote:Aye, they are Ardex-Defensor pattern mauler bolt cannons along with Ardex-Defensor twin-linked lascannons covering the back, NOT twin-linked stubbers like pointlessly speculated above.

What exactly does Ardex-Defensor give the weapons, compared to normal?
They are point-defence weapons that may always overwatch at BS 2, not that there's a lot that can hurt a Warlord in assaults.

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The Warlord has the following arm options:
Belicosa pattern volcano cannons (standard issue)
Sunfury plasma annihilator
Mori quake cannon
Saturnyne lascutter
Arioch titan power claw
Macro-gatling blaster

And the following carapace options:
Two Apocalypse missile launchers (standard issue)
Two double-barrelled turbo laser destructors
Two twin-linked vulcan mega-bolters
Two titan plasma blastguns
Two Reaver laser blasters
Two Reaver melta cannons
Two Reaver gatling blasters
Two vortex missile banks
Two incinerator missile banks

"Standard issue" being what the model starts out with in the army list entry.

I love how all of the Warlord primary weapons got names.