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 BrookM wrote:
Do they usually offer miniature only pledges? Because I'm not interested in the game, though their pathfinders do look good enough to be used for a scenario I'm working on.

You can usually pledge a buck and then just select add-ons, so you'll probably get your wish.

 Alex C wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Do they usually offer miniature only pledges? Because I'm not interested in the game, though their pathfinders do look good enough to be used for a scenario I'm working on.

You can usually pledge a buck and then just select add-ons, so you'll probably get your wish.

Excellent, I'll have to keep an eye on this one then, cheers!

Oh look yet another KS from mantic. What will this one bring I wonder......

Motograter wrote:
Oh look yet another KS from mantic. What will this one bring I wonder......

HARD PLASTIC PATHFINDERS, WE ALL NEED TO ORDER FIFTY SO I'M NOT ALONE!!


..God, I need help.

Yeah, I'll take some pathfinders.

50 might be a bit much though, how about 20?

I wonder if they'll let us pledge for old stuff... Like HP enforcers or peacekeepers...

Meh, scouts. Gimme 10.

Plus 30-50 enforcers and 10 peacekeepers... And 30 corporation marines/rangers. Well and 20 z-corp... I think those are technically still corporation troops... oh and some spare mars attacks human soldiers as gruntier corp troops... oh and the sedition wars line troopers, those can be an elite offshoot of marines kind of like the rangers... Yeah I'd say 10 pathfinders'll do it .

 pretre wrote:
I wonder if they'll let us pledge for old stuff... Like HP enforcers or peacekeepers...

I really hope so.

Need Striders too.

I wonder too, pretre... I kind of think maybe not... Probably hard to give those peacekeepers away for 5 for 10 when they sell quite a bit more at retail.

But maybe.

Striders though.... I can't imagine they sell them that cheap again. Maybe 2 for 25-30 or something, I think the $10/per was just damage control since they had a material change or whatever.

Maybe though I could always add a few to my horde of 6...

Jesus Christ, am I the only one interested in the veer myn?
People complain GW has become all about space marines, I guess we know who's really to blame for that, eh?

Veer-Myn are relevant to my interests.

My main reason I'm looking forward to this one, actually.

Joyboozer wrote:
Jesus Christ, am I the only one interested in the veer myn?
People complain GW has become all about space marines, I guess we know who's really to blame for that, eh?

Wha...?!?

A lot of people are looking forward to the unfortunately named "Veer-Myn".

It is sad that Mantic pulled a GW "Mon-Keigh" with their name though...

Well their background is being changed. If they become some sort of experiment gone wrong maybe they'll have a catchier scientific name?

Vermintia Giganticus?

ROUS?

Skaven?

 NTRabbit wrote:
Bringing the conversation over from the news thread: I hope the rumour about dumping the grid for wargame style measuring is a false one, because it's a dealbreaker for friends who are only knee deep in boardgames and nowhere near wargames, and it's one of the big selling points compared to other skirmish systems.

I actually hope they remove it, because it's getting a bit stale playing on the same board with the same 3" square terrain all the time. Would love to be able to use my Necromunda board for Deadzone!

I actually like the Veer-myn name. It makes sense that, as these Rats evolved (presumably from the common rat+years of warp jump, Red Dwarf style), they take on the same the humans refer to them by, until it becomes something they identify with as a species. It doesn't mean 'vermin' to them, and probably doesn't to most humans, as the new meaning (evolved rat-like life forms that are a major pest) has superceded it. This then becomes a derogaroty term, taking the place of the 'old' 'vermin' and the cycle begins again.

It is slightly ironic and humerous, but I certainly think that has a place in the Mantic-verse setting.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Maybe Veermyn will be some sort of corporation created derogatory term for the space rats.

Like the "prawn" in District 9.

Wouldn't they just be "Vermin", then? Unless they all have Centauri accents.


And the pledge manager $1 pledge is pretty much the minis only pledge.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Maybe Veermyn will be some sort of corporation created derogatory term for the space rats.

Like the "prawn" in District 9.

Wouldn't they just be "Vermin", then? Unless they all have Centauri accents.

How about Vyr-men (prounouced veer-men)? The actual race or animal they evolved from was called the Vyr and well.. they are men which can imply both wo-men and men, unless they are considered asexual which is fine too. Other races/people would refer to them as 'vermin' in a derogatory way though.

I like to think of it as a bastardization of the German pronunciation of werewolf- Vervolf. By that reckoning, they'd be rats able to shift into the form of men, before transforming back into rats and fleeing into the bowels of the ship. An army of wererats is totally awesome.

I also love the new clean look. Much better for Space Rats. This definitely bears watching.

 Paradigm wrote:
I actually like the Veer-myn name. It makes sense that, as these Rats evolved (presumably from the common rat+years of warp jump, Red Dwarf style), they take on the same the humans refer to them by, until it becomes something they identify with as a species. It doesn't mean 'vermin' to them, and probably doesn't to most humans, as the new meaning (evolved rat-like life forms that are a major pest) has superceded it. This then becomes a derogaroty term, taking the place of the 'old' 'vermin' and the cycle begins again.

It is slightly ironic and humerous, but I certainly think that has a place in the Mantic-verse setting.

You don't also like the "Mon-Keigh" name, do you?

That's more like it, now, every time during this campaign I want you all to remember, anytime a bunch of people try and focus on getting a Mantic to do more corporation stretch goals, we belittle their tiny doodles.
I don't care what they're called, the focus of this campaign should be dirty alien scum!

Eh.. I like the concept of the space skaven but for real.. those are some boring ass poses. There is very little personality to the models and for a skirmish game that's not really going to fly IMO, especially when the figures can be posed digitally.

Personally, I'm looking for something to convince me not to just get some Skaven and some sci-fi guns from Maxmini or whatever..

Think about giant rat men. Imagine how they might move or act and tell me that any of that is similar to what they're showing. I dunno, we'll see what they come up with but I'm not excited about what I see.

The pathfinders are cool.. I'm sure most people interested in this have a surplus of sci-fi humans though and there are a ton readily available along similar lines. I'd probably still go in for some depending on the options that are available.

Like I said on the grid thing before.. I find it creates problems. I understand that there are people that enjoy Deadzone in it's current state. Here's the thing.. you can choose to keep playing it in it's current state. If they change the rules you aren't going to be required by law to use that edition. The reason I say that is, there are a lot of us who backed the KS for DZ, gave it a try.. and absolutely ended up hating it.. or at least felt extremely meh about it. A lot of that for me involves grid shenanigans. So for us, if they give us something it'll be fantastic to have a crack at it and possibly something we CAN play without hating. On another note.. if they do change the rules, perhaps you would enjoy that if you gave it a try. Green Eggs and Ham and all of that.

I may be interested in this. I love the concept of Deadzone personally (Grid based miniature game with campaign elements), but between the terrible restic miniatures and the half-hearted campaign rules I was really disappointed with how the initial release came out. That said, I enjoyed the core rules a fair bit, and hope they can improve the campaign rules.

If they do this KS in hard plastic I may just pledge.

I am a bit bummed they decided to do more Enforcers rather than create a Corporation faction.

*delete*

Very interested, but with the Euro being where it is, I might have to pledge a dollar and hope a miracle happens before the pledge manger comes out.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Sigh, another one in march,

well they get $1 no more, maybe not even that

I'm sure it'll be worth having your toe in for $1. If for nothing else but the option to buy the new scenery in PM W2 or 3.


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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Maybe Veermyn will be some sort of corporation created derogatory term for the space rats.

Like the "prawn" in District 9.

I'd be onboard with that if they change the name otherwise. I'll even go so far as to try and remember to always say it using a South African accent.


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 timetowaste85 wrote:

HARD PLASTIC PATHFINDERS, WE ALL NEED TO ORDER FIFTY SO I'M NOT ALONE!!
..God, I need help.

I already did that.


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 Alex C wrote:
Well their background is being changed. If they become some sort of experiment gone wrong maybe they'll have a catchier scientific name?
Skaven?

Hm.. How about Skaevin? They can go right next to the Orx.

Interested. Although after throwing more than I should at KoW2 I'll not be going too mad on this one.

As for the talk of non-grid... meh.
The only reason I play DZ is because of the grid. If I wanted a skirmish game with real measuring I know there's other games out there with better quality figures. Why would DZ want to be just another of those?

 MLaw wrote:

Like I said on the grid thing before.. I find it creates problems. I understand that there are people that enjoy Deadzone in it's current state. Here's the thing.. you can choose to keep playing it in it's current state. If they change the rules you aren't going to be required by law to use that edition. The reason I say that is, there are a lot of us who backed the KS for DZ, gave it a try.. and absolutely ended up hating it.. or at least felt extremely meh about it. A lot of that for me involves grid shenanigans. So for us, if they give us something it'll be fantastic to have a crack at it and possibly something we CAN play without hating. On another note.. if they do change the rules, perhaps you would enjoy that if you gave it a try. Green Eggs and Ham and all of that.

They could always go for the "two ways to play" thing and support two (slight) variations on the system. If they did that it wouldn't upset me at all. I don't think it's likely though, since DZ seems to be (somewhat) aimed at the BG market as an entry product towards "proper" gridless minis gaming.

 Sabotage! wrote:
I am a bit bummed they decided to do more Enforcers rather than create a Corporation faction.

Apparently Corporation and Z'zor are being saved for another time, whether that's a different Deadzone supplement or maybe even a Warpath starter, we don't know exactly yet.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
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 Alex C wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
I am a bit bummed they decided to do more Enforcers rather than create a Corporation faction.

Apparently Corporation and Z'zor are being saved for another time, whether that's a different Deadzone supplement or maybe even a Warpath starter, we don't know exactly yet.

I suppose they could feasibly do another DZ expansion after WP is a thing. Continual support and all that.

I have stopped my terrain building from the previous KS, so I can mix the new stuff in. Interested in both the rats and the pathfinders. I like fantasy in space, and background doesn't bother me, I just want cool stuff (or stuff I think is cool).