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I was a bit meh on the jet bikes until I saw the renders with the pilot, and now I'm all about that.

I like the idea some ine had about separate pilots on foot. A mechanised mounted infantry Enforcer Regiment would be fantastic.

I love that they are compatible with the existing hard plastics.

That's pretty neat.. I mean I guess we could add the energy fists, combat blades, and or pistols to better emulate 40k models. Mine will probably mostly be focused on driving and gunning people down with the superior under-mounted weaponry.


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Huh... now I want to see if I can get some sitting enforcers out of my collection, those more awkward legs, maybe do some swapping of the two running pairs to get sitting legs and then pop them into landspeeders or similar

 timetowaste85 wrote:
If jetbikes go $5 each, expect me to buy 15.

If jetbikes go $5 each, I'll be astonished. And so will my wallet.

So far, they are the best thing going for this kickstarter. My money is on $10 to $15 per jetbike. Or, I suppose it isn't.

Huh.. I like the jetbikes but unless they are stupid cheap I will just get them from a discount retailer later. There are tons of companies making jetbikes so if the retail is stupid high I can just go that route.

I'll agree with the conservative side of things here... I want those bikes but... I won't pay space marine bike prices for sight unseen bikes, as I won't pay it for space marine bikes as it is

I mean... I realize that the enforcer bits basically already exist and I'm happy enough with those... but, there's a lot of room for error on those bikes and I can effectively get infinity bikes for $15 a piece considering discounts and bundles.

I'm guessing 3 for $20-$25.

Is also like to add this is really a stretch of a unit for Deadzone. If Mantic wanted to fund Warpath stuff, do a warpath KS. Don't infuse your skirmish Campaign game with units that have little business being there.

Here's hoping they fix the bike rules and perhaps limit their use to larger maps or something (or make it not worth it to use unless on larger maps).

Some resin crashed jet bikes would be a good terrain piece.

 RobertsMinis wrote:
Some resin crashed jet bikes would be a good terrain piece.

I'd get that suggestion in on the KS comments.

 .Mikes. wrote:

 RobertsMinis wrote:
Some resin crashed jet bikes would be a good terrain piece.

I'd get that suggestion in on the KS comments.

Where it will be immediately drowned out by a torrent of inane chit-chat, discussions of whose country has the largest (metaphorical) penis, and a thorough analysis of GW's Skitarii.

Earth Dragon wrote:


Is also like to add this is really a stretch of a unit for Deadzone. If Mantic wanted to fund Warpath stuff, do a warpath KS. Don't infuse your skirmish Campaign game with units that have little business being there.

Here's hoping they fix the bike rules and perhaps limit their use to larger maps or something (or make it not worth it to use unless on larger maps).

This is what I was thinking. Something as quick as the jet bike looks to be goes way too fast for a skirmish on a DeadZone map. If moving slow it is nothing but a big target above much of the cover. And since the Pathfinders are a bit light as a force, if we HAVE to have one, I would like to see a pathfinder version (jet bikes make better recon platforms than they do transportation for Enforcers anyway).

And I have to laugh when I see the sleek speedy high tech design of this while they give me the blocky short-legged Robot Dog.

They are gonna re-explore the dog.

.... said the actress to the bishop.

 Vermonter wrote:
@Scarlet Squig - since you've been talking about KS price points, I'm curious what price point would make Enforcer jetbikes worthwhile to you as an add-on?

(I know Quarantine will get some free, but I think a number of us are considering adding more on after that.)

If they can fit one on a regular sprue, then $5 for the sprue sounds good. Think they'll make them $10 or 3 for $25 though, with the way things are going.. not sure if the add-ons are offering any % discount over the eventual RRP at this point, which is unusual.

I don't mind a raised price point as long as some better quality emerges with it. The Enforcer sprues were great, but difficult to assemble, ball and socket join on the legs made things much more difficult than the peg and hole joint legs on the forge guard.

At the moment the sprues are not matching GW level in quality and options, again as an example the Enforcer sprue doesn't have all the special weapons on it, whereas a modern GW sprue would.

They still have a lot more work to do before a major price increase is justified in comparison to their competition.

 CptJake wrote:

This is what I was thinking. Something as quick as the jet bike looks to be goes way too fast for a skirmish on a DeadZone map. If moving slow it is nothing but a big target above much of the cover. And since the Pathfinders are a bit light as a force, if we HAVE to have one, I would like to see a pathfinder version (jet bikes make better recon platforms than they do transportation for Enforcers anyway).

The comments say the jetbike is more meant for multimat games, a bit like how the Walkers don't really fit on one mat and some of the support weapons have a range longer than a mat edge.

Yep I think we're looking at 1 jet bike sprue added to Quarantine and $10 each as add ons to keep the sprue prices consistent. Hopefully 3 for $25

I don't mind the dog in a vacuum (it probably minds though!), but in light of the bikes.. it probably is a wee bit too clunky.

I also wanted pathfinder bikes.

I'm ok with warpath bikers showing up here though, as it means I get to paint them sooner! But yeah, gonna be kinda hard to use effectively in DZ.

Also if the jetbikes are $10, screw it. That's a bit much. Would it really use much more plastic than a sprue of 5 zombies? That would also mean that they'd either be the same at retail or they'd be straight-even with GW's horrendously expensive bikes. Might just be something I skip until miniature market clearances them out some day.

Pathfinders already have a bike, we got her in the first campaign!

I know, I have one, but I just figured since we were kind of doing a pathfinder-based story for the campaign we'd get more pathfinders... Enforcers already have jet packs, and while they aren't meant to be Iron Man style flight suits, the bike almost sees a tad redundant on them, whereas it makes sense for scouts who both scout, and don't seem to have jump packs.

Meh, I'll reserve judgement I guess... but depending on the bike prices, I think I'm gonna be as put off as a lot of people hereabouts pretty soon.

In good news, I finally got the sprue of Forgeguard I was owed, plus a bag of sweets and a couple of extra sprues. I was more happy at the sweets than the extra models.

That's a good point Grimdork. Enforcers/Peacekeepers were 2 sprues for $10 where as a jet bike should fit on a single sprue but I still don't see them being $5 each - we can hope

Lol you got a bag of sweets for having your stuff come in late? They missed my entire wave 1 shipment, sent it 2 months later, and it was still incomplete when they did (as they were out of things). Plus no extras, but oh well, they eventually got me what I paid for.

I guess their CS dept. has stepped up it's game

 DaveC wrote:
That's a good point Grimdork. Enforcers/Peacekeepers were 2 sprues for $10 where as a jet bike should fit on a single sprue but I still don't see them being $5 each - we can hope

The cost of a plastic sprue is determined by the size of the sprue, and by the intricacy required to machine what is on it, not how many soldiers it has, because that price comes from the machine hours it takes to mill the steel block.

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 GrimDork wrote:
Lol you got a bag of sweets for having your stuff come in late? They missed my entire wave 1 shipment, sent it 2 months later, and it was still incomplete when they did (as they were out of things). Plus no extras, but oh well, they eventually got me what I paid for.

I guess their CS dept. has stepped up it's game

A very small bag...

Bwahaha don't feel bad, if they're doing more to engender customer goodwill, then more power to them!

Good point NTRabbit, but I still say if they're significantly more expensive compared to the number of them I'd be getting, I can't reconcile the cost difference internally and will only get a couple. I guess we'll see, plenty of other things I'm interested in for this one anyway.

Yeah, at $10 each, I'd buy enough for a squad of 5 (so 4, if we get the free one in quarantine). At $5 each, I'll buy enough to have 3 squads of 5. So 14, really. Mantic gets more money from me if they're cheaper and I get more minis, and they get less money from me and I buy less if they're more expensive. Ball's in their court.

I would guess 3 per sprue for $15.

I thought they already said 1 per sprue?

 GrimDork wrote:
I don't mind the dog in a vacuum (it probably minds though!), but in light of the bikes.. it probably is a wee bit too clunky.

I also wanted pathfinder bikes.

I'm ok with warpath bikers showing up here though, as it means I get to paint them sooner! But yeah, gonna be kinda hard to use effectively in DZ.

Also if the jetbikes are $10, screw it. That's a bit much. Would it really use much more plastic than a sprue of 5 zombies? That would also mean that they'd either be the same at retail or they'd be straight-even with GW's horrendously expensive bikes. Might just be something I skip until miniature market clearances them out some day.

Common model price point. Charge less for mass troops. Charge more for units fielded in smaller quantities. They couldn't afford to do the zombie deal for everything. The zombies were being sold for less then $3 a sprue. They have to fund shipping, tooling, development, wages.....if you aren't gonna sell a boat load, you naturally have to up the price.

 CptJake wrote:
I thought they already said 1 per sprue?

Yes confirmed in the comments last night 1 per sprue