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 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
It was on the second pledge manager.

Ah, thanks. You'd think they'd incorporate it into the special bundles they sell on their own webstore but I haven't seen it there.

People probably knew about this already, but you can see all of Mantic's comments on this page:
https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1744629938/comments


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Bikes just went two for $10.

Exham IV - Part 3

6-12 worked her way closer to the spaceport, and at a convergence of four tunnels hollowed out into a vast cavern she found reason enough to order an immediate Containment Protocol; more Veer-myn than she had encountered in any operation, a seething mass of thousands. Enough so the tunnel’s floor and lower walls were lost beneath their writhing bodies.

The situation had become clear; Exham with its ultra-high population had bred a Veer-myn colony of prodigious size. A colony which could perhaps have gone unnoticed forever in the swathes of empty cities, until the unforeseen onset of an ice age. It was then a choice of freeze or escape, and the Veer-myn had recognised the potential of Priory Station and acted upon it. Viral outbreaks had long been documented as tools of the Veer-myn, and the bleeding sickness could only have been a first strike on the Mi-Gan troopers already struggling with a dying population in open revolt.

The chance of such a potently virulent disease reaching Prior Station and spreading through the core worlds was alone enough for 6-12 to order an immediate Containment Protocol, but the sheer size of the Veer-myn brood was a danger in itself. If the brood splintered, confirming the elimination of all Veer-myn on Exham may be impossible. To increase the chance of mission success she would have to tag the Brood Mother; the dominant female around which broods were centred. 6-12 knew that would mean she would never leave those tunnels.

Loading her rifle with tracer darts, she tagged the Brood Mother. The effect was instantaneous; the entire colony was roused at their Mother’s keening wail and, drawing on the brood’s group perception, focused on 6-12. In her last act she released a drone cloud to record the discovery and return to the vigilance control system.

She ran out of ammunition before she ran out of targets.


What's next?

As we reach the halfway point, what we’re going to tackle is fleshing out the Veer-myn faction with more choice and variety. With that in mind, we’re going to drop a quick little stretch in between now and the Jetbike.

Enter the Progenitor:

NEW! Stretch Goal $195,000 – Veer-myn Progenitor

Because of the lack of solid data there have been many far-reaching and eccentric theories surrounding the Veer-myn, their habits, abilities and social structure. Some of these theories have been supplanted as slowly more is learned of these creatures. One such theory which survived until only recently was that there was only a single male in the brood which bred with the Brood Mother.*

The reason why the hypothesis remained for so long was due to combat encounters. In almost all cases the Veer-myn were led by a single male, apparently of the Malignus caste but with obvious authority across the brood. It was, and is still, believed that there is no discernible rank below Brood Mother, and the conclusion that this male would hold a unique place among the nest and therefore on the battlefield was accepted as logical.

Even though this theory has been dismissed no other has been proposed as to how these males attain their authority, and the reasoning is marked down as another mystery surrounding the Veer-myn.

*The theory was replaced after evidence of exponential growth in some broods was proved to be impossible with a single breeding male. It is currently thought that an unto-now undiscovered caste of males are instead used as breeders, milked of their reproductive DNA until they die and are replaced by their own male offspring.


Description: The Progenitor looks like a regular Malignus, armed with the most valuable, and usually experimental, weaponry available as befits its station. This weaponry tends to come in two load outs; a Spitter Rifle, or a Chem-Pistol and Hand Drill.

The Spitter Rifle fires a nitrogen based liquid, literally ‘spitting’ out a small glob at tremendous pressure. The result is a highly accurate cryogenic fluid bullet which can eat through armour. Additionally there is potential splash-damage to any other models in the same cube from the impacting slug.

The Veer-myn Progenitor is a sub-leader character for the Veer-myn faction, and comes with an additional head and weapon so that you can build him in a variety of ways.

When we hit this stretch goal, we’ll be able to sculpt and produce him in metal, and make him available to add-on for $8.

MILESTONE STRETCH GOAL $200,000 - Enforcer Jetbike(s!)

Of course, the other thing we’re going to do with this Kickstarter is give you even greater value for your money…

$200,000 is a landmark goal, a milestone, so we’re going to double up on the rewards on offer when we get there.

When we hit this next goal, we won’t just give you one Jetbike in Quarantine, we’ll give you two.


We’ll also double up on the Jetbike Add-on. Two of these awesome bikes for a tenner? You betcha.


And then… Veer-myn Shredders?

Those who dismiss the Veer-myn as barely intelligent pests have obviously never encountered a Shredder. Huge, ravenous humanoids, these things show obvious signs of being made. Even Dr Chanson, the notable Veer-myn denier, was forced to recant when his arch-rival Investigator Gillian Li presented him with a corpse of a Shredder slain on Final Rest, although when he had recovered his wits he dismissed it as a hoax.

As tall as two men and far more bulky, Shredders have ratlike heads and enormous muscles. They are often found to have been bionically altered, the most common variant having two super-drills built into their arms. Shredders are insanely violent and barely sentient, that they exist solely for war is beyond doubt, and are a frightening indication of the Veer-myn’s ingenuity and intentions.

And finally…

Tomorrow marks the the one week point of a Kickstarter which over 1850 people have backed and supported. We have to do something special for that tomorrow, right?

looks like VeerMyn style rat ogres are after the Jetbikes

EDIT excellent so 6 jetbikes for $20 extra (2 in pledge plus 2 sets purchased) much better than 3 for $25

Looks like they've realised they need to throw some stuff at this to get it moving again and the Mantic deals we're used to are starting to come back

Just doubled the jet bike offering......

That will have piqued peoples interest now, I think. - Lets see if it gets things rolling over the 200k mark.

Tempted to start a 40k bike army...

Hot. There's the $5 jetbike people were looking for.

Yay, tons of bikes now!! Not getting 5, now I'm getting like 16!!! Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!*


*epic squirrel on skateboard emoticon that Dakka doesnt have yet*

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Yay, tons of bikes now!! Not getting 5, now I'm getting like 16!!! Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!*


*epic squirrel on skateboard emoticon that Dakka doesnt have yet*

Hope you have plenty of enforcer bits to customize. Wait... Who am I kidding? Of course you do.


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Also, let me know if anyone wants changes in formatting/style/content for the OP.

The Progenitor looks nice, I'm extremely happy theres alternative parts.

I pop out for an afternoon and in the meantime Mantic figures out that being stingy isn't working out for them. Good!

 pretre wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Yay, tons of bikes now!! Not getting 5, now I'm getting like 16!!! Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!*


*epic squirrel on skateboard emoticon that Dakka doesnt have yet*

Hope you have plenty of enforcer bits to customize. Wait... Who am I kidding? Of course you do.


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Also, let me know if anyone wants changes in formatting/style/content for the OP.

I also have like 20 Enforcers still on sprue, not sure what to do with yet! I can do a full (I might miss stuff) list of what I have. Bored at work, so it's a good time to list my Enforcer army:

Two 10-man units of Enforcers with rifles and burst lasers/assault blade

Two 10-man units of Enforcers with rifles and missile launcher/energy gauntlet

Three 5-man units of Assault Enforcers with fusion gun

Two 5-man units of Assault Enforcers

Two 5-man units of Suppression Enforcers with assault blade/burst lasers x4

Two 5-man units of Suppression Enforcers with energy gauntlet/missile launchers x4

Two 5-man units of Defenders

One 5-man Suppression unit with Inferno Cannons/energy gauntlet

Two 5-man units of Enforcers with inferno gun/energy gauntlet

One 5-man defender peacekeeper unit

One 5-man peacekeeper with burst laser

One 5-man peacekeeper with inferno cannon

5 Snipers

4 Medics

4 Engineers

2 Peacekeeper sergeants/captains

2 Enforcer sergeants with energy gauntlets

That sounds about right. So...what should I do with the other 20 regulars and 10 peacekeepers? Without giving them away.

Hold onto them for conversions/upgrades later re: Warpath or 40k.

 pretre wrote:
Hold onto them for conversions/upgrades later re: Warpath or 40k.

That was all I could think of at the moment, myself. I think I have every possible unit combination covered at this point.

Well, there goes my inhibitions. 10 jetbikes? 20?

 judgedoug wrote:
Well, there goes my inhibitions. 10 jetbikes? 20?

Don't tempt me...

We will get two free in base pledge, so that means I'm either adding 8 or 18 on. Hahaha.

What's the deal with the weapon options? Do we know how many they will have?

 judgedoug wrote:
We will get two free in base pledge, so that means I'm either adding 8 or 18 on. Hahaha.

What's the deal with the weapon options? Do we know how many they will have?

I thought they said two, but you could use enforcer sprues to customize them more.

If they put enforcer plastics back up, I could see myself making a whole new space marine army. Ugh.

Mantic divulged the Shredders will be added to the main pledge.

I just wish this KS wasn't a PVC free zone. Would have bought 3 of that last rat.

Oh good, the enforcer kickstarter is now in full swing!

I was thinking

Meh now I'm getting 2 jet bikes in quarantine I don't need to add any more

But then

Wouldn't it be cool to have a crashed jet bike as scenery

I hate to say that I'm kind of sad to see the passing of PVC from Mantic campaigns.

I have a feeling a few of those rats might have made it both cheaper and into the base pledge if they'd been PVC.

Of course I could be totally wrong in that regard. It just seems like they'd include things like commanders and such with the basic strike team. All the original groups had them!

We'll see if Mantic can tempt more money out of me. Not super interested in Enforcer stuff. More rats on the other hand...

Or Sphyr...

 Compel wrote:
That will have piqued peoples interest now, I think. - Lets see if it gets things rolling over the 200k mark.

They played me like a fiddle. 'Cause you know I love KS players and they love the game.

I'll tell you when it's over if the high was worth the pain.


Anyway, Jetbikes are now a thing. Not exactly a fake stretch goal. Fake value shift?

My first thought was,
Mantic lied in every word,
that hoary sellout,
with malicious eye
Askance to watch the workings of its lie

Oooh, is it open mic night?

 pretre wrote:
Oooh, is it open mic night?

Who needs a microphone as long as you're faster than security?


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It should be noted that I expect these bikes to be perfect fodder for Battlefleet Mantic purposes. Am I the only one?

I'd really rather these big rat commanders and beasts were in restic than metal, I really don't like working with metal minis in 28mm

 NTRabbit wrote:
I'd really rather these big rat commanders and beasts were in restic than metal, I really don't like working with metal minis in 28mm

I'm really happy their in metal and not restic, I can't stand restic models

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I hate to say that I'm kind of sad to see the passing of PVC from Mantic campaigns.

Indeed. Even as a non-backer/wait-for-retail-guy, I think the DZ1 KS (and presumbaly the starter when retail happens) offered much better value and variety than this one, in no small part due to Restic (which I actually don't mind; it's no worse than plastic in my eyes). Take the Enforcers this time and last time:

DZ1: 3 Riflemen, 2 Assault, 1 Sniper, 1 Missile, 1 Captain, 1 Engineer (all Restic)

DZ2: 10 Pathfinders, presumably with a couple of Special options, and 2 DOG drones, all in HIPS. Now while this may cost less, I don't think Mantic's plastic is any better than Restic on a good day, and there is ultimately less variety here. While you might have just as many options, it's the same 5 legs/bodies/heads duplicated, whereas part of what's great about the Specialists in DZ1 in general had unique sculpts that fitted their style so well. Take the Sniper, for example (arguably the best Enforcer mini to date), something as unique is not doable with unconverted plastic, really.

HIPS is fine for mass battle games, and will be great for Warpath, but in a game like DZ, half a dozen unique sculpts in restic beats duplicates of the same 5 options in HIPS.


The real weakness in this KS is that, aside from the updated rules, it's arguably worse as an intro than the current starter set, which offers better/more varied sculpts, a proper mat, possibllly more terrain, and ultimately, isn't that expensive compared to similar products (say, DV and Infinity Icestorm). I know which I'd pick at any rate.

Yeah, I'd rather have metal than restic.