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 ImAGeek wrote:
Bikes come on those like rounded ended cavalry bases don't they?

Oops, while reading the list I forgot the bit you wrote at the start.

It's all good, I was just trying to feel out what GW typically 3 packs.

Realized I forgot the Daemon cav units too (the flies and Juggernaughts).

So add 2 more to the "Cav" list.

I hope if they do a cavalry for them its either bikers or just horses. I dread to think what else they'll come up with.

So some sort of cavalry or heavy unit. I rather have a heavy unit as long as its unique.

Plastic Penitent Engines boxed like Killa Kans?

 ImAGeek wrote:
I hope if they do a cavalry for them its either bikers or just horses. I dread to think what else they'll come up with.

Sisters riding on the shoulders of other Sisters with the bottom Sisters holding coconut halves? The accessory sprue could come with a swallow.

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind bikes or cav if they make them feel distinct enough. I'm partial to the large warhorse idea because outside of Rough Riders (who are OOP it seems) 40k hasn't really used that idea. Making them mechanical (say by putting a horse's brain into a mechanical housing servitor style) would give all the benefits of a horse with no drawbacks (no need for food, water, rest, air, and no poop!).

Plus it'd go with that Joan of Arc feel the army likes to tap into.

How about some kind of reliquary, a bit like what the bretonians got?
The rest of a saint being brought to battle, surrounded by a force field, and with tons of weapons strapped on it.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
How about some kind of reliquary, a bit like what the bretonians got?
The rest of a saint being brought to battle, surrounded by a force field, and with tons of weapons strapped on it.

If it was just one model, I could see that but the fact that it is three models makes me think other wise.

 Eldarain wrote:
Plastic Penitent Engines boxed like Killa Kans?

Except they listed a walker model kit separately which I'd honestly expect to be the Penitent Engine (plus whatever alternate model(s) it can build) instead.

Also Penitent Engines are a 60mm base model. I've seen GW scale bases up, but can't think of the last time they scaled them down.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I hope if they do a cavalry for them its either bikers or just horses. I dread to think what else they'll come up with.

Horses with bike wheels or tank treads for feet?

Plus skulls somewhere.

Although robotic steeds of some sort would be kind of cool, I doubt they'd do something so easy or normal.

Have to wonder if the 50mm bases might be slightly smaller Penitent engines, caught between Kan and Deff Dread size, and then the big kit is something new and totally over the top size wise?

edit - seems I got ninja'd while typing.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I hope if they do a cavalry for them its either bikers or just horses. I dread to think what else they'll come up with.

Horses with bike wheels or tank treads for feet?

Plus skulls somewhere.

Although robotic steeds of some sort would be kind of cool, I doubt they'd do something so easy or normal.

Knowing GW if we get robot horses you'd have to build the skeleton separate from the outer shell so you could paint the inside detail (like the Centurion models). So forget "easy".


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 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Have to wonder if the 50mm bases might be slightly smaller Penitent engines, caught between Kan and Deff Dread size, and then the big kit is something new and totally over the top size wise?

It's not impossible, but I can't think of the last time something was scaled down in the game.

Oh I mean robot horses would be okay, because they're still horses and I agree they fit with the Joan of Arc type dealio, but I mean the Space Wolves got actual wolves, I hope they don't do something silly like that.

Aye, I generally can't eiher, but its just something that crossed my mind, focus the model on the entrapped sister, with the limbs not a great deal larger than her frame, slightly more compact and it'll fit nicely on a 50mm.

To be honest I'll take anything though, if this one is true I see two new armies in the household this year.. both SIsters for me and Aura and potentially some Dark Eldar down the road as well, as I'd need some of those Faith hunting Dark Eldar to take on her sisters.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Oh I mean robot horses would be okay, because they're still horses and I agree they fit with the Joan of Arc type dealio, but I mean the Space Wolves got actual wolves, I hope they don't do something silly like that.

I can't think of anything really more Sisters-ish for a steed than that unless you lashed a bunch of penitents together.

Hmm. But we do still have to consider the base size.

Attack Bikes could work, with one sister in a sidecar.
It could be a heavy weapons team.
It could be some heavily armored creation, like Terminators/Centurions, or some type of automaton.

But here's the thing. Let's look at some of the releases that have come to older factions..

Dark Eldar was really the first. The fluff stayed about the same, and most of the kits were the same too, but we saw a lot of change in aesthetic across the range. Same with Grey Knights.

Necrons were really the next big one, with their fluff changing dramatically from mindless robots to robots with a bit of personality (and more like Tomb Kings in Space). Their aesthetic didn't change, but their fluff sure did.

If Sisters of Battle do indeed get an update, I bet for one that they will look very different from what we have, and for another that their fluff is going to change. This really opens the door for things we simply can't imagine. There could be a lot of different ways they go with it.

All this guessing is pretty much shooting in the dark until we have something a little more concrete.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
To be honest I'll take anything though, if this one is true I see two new armies in the household this year.. both SIsters for me and Aura and potentially some Dark Eldar down the road as well, as I'd need some of those Faith hunting Dark Eldar to take on her sisters.

Ad mech and Sisters for me. But I know the feeling.

At least with Sisters I wouldn't need much to start playing a new army and could expand into new kits slowly.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Oh I mean robot horses would be okay, because they're still horses and I agree they fit with the Joan of Arc type dealio, but I mean the Space Wolves got actual wolves, I hope they don't do something silly like that.

I can't think of anything really more Sisters-ish for a steed than that unless you lashed a bunch of penitents together.

I can't either but if anyone could come up with a stupid concept for a Sisters cavalry it would be GW. But cavalry would be cool, like you say Rough Riders are the only example really, and it fits the theme.

drbored wrote:
Hmm. But we do still have to consider the base size.

To a point, yes, but the idea was to feel out what GW sells in a 3 model kit normally since the 50mm base is new and not used by much.

drbored wrote:
Attack Bikes could work, with one sister in a sidecar.

Definitely. If we got bikes it'd be this or some kind of quad thing (like a Wartrakk but less Orky) I'd expect.

drbored wrote:
It could be a heavy weapons team.

I don't think so, unless they're replacing Retributors. I mean Power Armor is what keeps Sisters from needing 2 people to operate the heavy weapons.

drbored wrote:
It could be some heavily armored creation, like Terminators/Centurions, or some type of automaton.

Automatons feels more Ad Mech to me, but yes a heavily armoured unit could be possible if given enough bulk.

drbored wrote:
But here's the thing. Let's look at some of the releases that have come to older factions..

Dark Eldar was really the first. The fluff stayed about the same, and most of the kits were the same too, but we saw a lot of change in aesthetic across the range. Same with Grey Knights.

Necrons were really the next big one, with their fluff changing dramatically from mindless robots to robots with a bit of personality (and more like Tomb Kings in Space). Their aesthetic didn't change, but their fluff sure did.

If Sisters of Battle do indeed get an update, I bet for one that they will look very different from what we have, and for another that their fluff is going to change. This really opens the door for things we simply can't imagine. There could be a lot of different ways they go with it.

I can agree the look would be updated (I mean look at old DE vs current DE on how much the models improved asthetically), but I don't think fluff will change too much. Too much of a change and you get PA Storm Troopers or Diet Marines. There is a pretty fine line on what you can get away with regarding Sisters without wrecking them completely fluff wise.

drbored wrote:
All this guessing is pretty much shooting in the dark until we have something a little more concrete.

True, but it's nice to actually discuss the possibilities instead of shooting them like a crippled race horse.

drbored wrote:
If Sisters of Battle do indeed get an update, I bet for one that they will look very different from what we have, and for another that their fluff is going to change. This really opens the door for things we simply can't imagine. There could be a lot of different ways they go with it.

Well, the thing is: how many recent artworks was there featuring the old-aesthetic dark eldars when they released the new one? How many iconic artwork did they had?
Sisters had new artworks in Shield of Baal, and have tons of iconic artwork, so I expect them to change way less. Same for the fluff, the Necrons were really outsiders with very few links with the rest of the fluff, while Sisters have been an important part of the Imperium since 2nd edition!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

drbored wrote:
If Sisters of Battle do indeed get an update, I bet for one that they will look very different from what we have, and for another that their fluff is going to change. This really opens the door for things we simply can't imagine. There could be a lot of different ways they go with it.

Well, the thing is: how many recent artworks was there featuring the old-aesthetic dark eldars when they released the new one? How many iconic artwork did they had?
Sisters had new artworks in Shield of Baal, and have tons of iconic artwork, so I expect them to change way less. Same for the fluff, the Necrons were really outsiders with very few links with the rest of the fluff, while Sisters have been an important part of the Imperium since 2nd edition!

Earlier even. Honestly Sisters are one of those things that would make me but a full army from GW but it's not going to happen for 2 reasons

1. They think they won't sell because they don't sell now.

2. When I did have sources that were close to the design team Nobody, Nobody wanted to touch them.

migooo wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

drbored wrote:
If Sisters of Battle do indeed get an update, I bet for one that they will look very different from what we have, and for another that their fluff is going to change. This really opens the door for things we simply can't imagine. There could be a lot of different ways they go with it.

Well, the thing is: how many recent artworks was there featuring the old-aesthetic dark eldars when they released the new one? How many iconic artwork did they had?
Sisters had new artworks in Shield of Baal, and have tons of iconic artwork, so I expect them to change way less. Same for the fluff, the Necrons were really outsiders with very few links with the rest of the fluff, while Sisters have been an important part of the Imperium since 2nd edition!

Earlier even. Honestly Sisters are one of those things that would make me but a full army from GW but it's not going to happen for 2 reasons

1. They think they won't sell because they don't sell now.

2. When I did have sources that were close to the design team Nobody, Nobody wanted to touch them.

Funny because Phil Kelly has shown an interest in them (and wrote their Shield of Baal fluff), and Jes Goodwin mentioned a couple years ago he wanted to work on the models.

Basically things change.

Also with a rules team it looks less like individual authors get to dictate updates now.

It would be nice honestly. Maybe it's the fact I've waited so long I just can't see it.

migooo wrote:
1. They think they won't sell because they don't sell now.

Not quite true. Their digital codex sold quite well, getting to a top spot on at least the German iBooks (and this is besides the sales on Black Library).

Granted, it's not model sales, but given the current state of the SoB models, I think them not selling too great is understandable.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Funny because Phil Kelly has shown an interest in them (and wrote their Shield of Baal fluff), and Jes Goodwin mentioned a couple years ago he wanted to work on the models.

Robin Cruddace also said that he likes them, and IIRC Kelly said there's a few other developers within GW that mained them.

Hmmm... 3 unit box? I'm calling it. Dual kit with Arco-flagellants / Mini Penitent Engine. They can even make them cavalry unit to separate them further from Repentias. But who am I kidding they'll be awful like Mutilators. I'd still get them though as long as they looked cool. Also, at least one of the characters has to be an Imperial Priest mini. Hey, if they really are discontinuing some of the WF Empire models, maybe they can straight port the Empire Flagellant kit over to sisters.

Regardless, when they come I will by Sisters no matter the cost. They even have their own savings account setup. Of course its been accruing interest for a very long time now. So, here hoping right?

As cool as it would be to finally see some plastic Sisters, I think that we are as likely to see a relaunch of Necromunda or Mordheim, or even the rumored plastic Inquisition retinue box before that happens.

I've been seeing rumors off and on of plastic Sisters since before the Dark Eldar 5th edition release (for almost as long as those rumors persisted as well), and not a thing has come from it.

GW will probably just replace Sisters with another boring SM chapter.

Plastic sisters have been a rumor since I started in 98 or so.

 pretre wrote:
Plastic sisters have been a rumor since I started in 98 or so.

And have they ever mentioned specific model counts per kit before? Or base sizes?

 pretre wrote:
Plastic sisters have been a rumor since I started in 98 or so.

So they're the oldest army in terms of models?

 Dentry wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Plastic sisters have been a rumor since I started in 98 or so.

So they're the oldest army in terms of models?

They are now. Most of the range is from '97, the rest is from '04.

I distinctly recall this same rumor popping up last year. While I want to believe it is based on more than wishful thinking, I can't help wondering: What lends this rumor any more credibility than it had in years prior?