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The teaser-trailer is up:

Http://www.games-workshop.com/en-DK/blog/blog.jsp

Ok. So. That's a lot of Saim Hann art and the like. Now that could be just because they painted a studio Saim Hann army for the 5th edition codex and no longer bother doing new armies for updates (though hilariously they re-use the Aspect Warriors from their Biel Tann army - see the green sashes on the Swooping Hawks)...or it could be a hint as to something else.

Saim Hann means 'Quest for Enlightenment.'

The closing line is 'Flame in the Darkness'

Hmmm.

I guess that full frontal of the Saim-Hann farseer could be the new cover? Although it doesn't look like Raymond Swanland's style.

I suppose that "Wraithknight gains some weight" means it will become a GC (or a SH Walker, less likely). This is yet another interpretation, though, time will tell. And pretty soon at that!

Just hope that they don't nerf it (too much). The Wraithknight has quickly grown to fulfil the role of the centrepiece of my DE / CWE army. I brought him to kick the Imperial Knights in the balls... which he did during the last tournament.

 SarisKhan wrote:
I suppose that "Wraithknight gains some weight" means it will become a GC (or a SH Walker, less likely). This is yet another interpretation, though, time will tell. And pretty soon at that!

Just hope that they don't nerf it (too much). The Wraithknight has quickly grown to fulfil the role of the centrepiece of my DE / CWE army. I brought him to kick the Imperial Knights in the balls... which he did during the last tournament.

Well, its certainly big enough to be a GC.

Am I the only one intrigued by the Ranger in the video....?

Would love a redo on them... 120 Rangers in a single army would be epic

9unit9 wrote:
Am I the only one intrigued by the Ranger in the video....?

Would love a redo on them... 120 Rangers in a single army would be epic

I was thinking about that, plastic Rangers would be brilliant, but then I started thinking it may have just been a way of tying this video in with the first skitarii video, didn't that have a sniper feel to it?

Dooooope ninja

And the cover of an upcoming novel.

The codex has 160 pages and it's price is equal to the Space Marines one.
Eldar Craftworld Tactics incoming!

I actually like the Ranger sculpts, but maybe a formation or rules tweak would mean I would have to dust off mine

KurtAngle2 wrote:
The codex has 160 pages and it's price is equal to the Space Marines one.
Eldar Craftworld Tactics incoming!

Is that a rumor? Not sure if I should add it to OP...

Well heres hoping to rangers actually being useful wanted to do a ambush style list for ages, but snipers have just been so poor.

Hoping not for a nerf of the wraithknight, but maybe moving away from - dual wraithcannons or GTFO. Would be cool to see its stats potentially alter based upon loadout. Like HnR if it has the sword or something. But any variety is good imo! we shall see.

Although pleased if the codex has the necron feel. I like the way the necron dex lets you bring a CAD, a specific detachment or simply a collection of small formations with added bonuses. Really gives you the feel that its 'your list' and not 'a list you wanted to do constrained by the codexes boundaries'.

I'm curious as to whether they're going to change the name of Ranger/Pathfinder squads.

As it stands they've had their name stolen by two different factions(Skitarii for Rangers and Tau for Pathfinders).

I could also see Illic Nightspear getting a nerf(sadly) or flat-out being removed from the Codex, and his Pathfinders simply becoming the basic Ranger option.

 Verviedi wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:
The codex has 160 pages and it's price is equal to the Space Marines one.
Eldar Craftworld Tactics incoming!

Is that a rumor? Not sure if I should add it to OP...

It would be a cool addition to the Eldar with tactics for the "generic Craftworld" and then for the big ones - however I would have thought they would done it in Necrons if they were extending the concept to other Codex.

Just as likely it will be random table of "advantages"...........same in the new SM Codex

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm curious as to whether they're going to change the name of Ranger/Pathfinder squads.

As it stands they've had their name stolen by two different factions(Skitarii for Rangers and Tau for Pathfinders).

Yeah, that gets confusing fast. When 9unit9 was talking about Rangers in the teaser video, I was actually thinking he meant the Skitarii ones in the background at first.

I could also see Illic Nightspear getting a nerf(sadly) or flat-out being removed from the Codex, and his Pathfinders simply becoming the basic Ranger option.

As he has a brand new model, I very much doubt he would get removed. Why would he need a nerf though? I wasn't under the impression he was overpowered in any way. I've never even seen anyone field him.

 Redemption wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I could also see Illic Nightspear getting a nerf(sadly) or flat-out being removed from the Codex, and his Pathfinders simply becoming the basic Ranger option.

As he has a brand new model, I very much doubt he would get removed. Why would he need a nerf though? I wasn't under the impression he was overpowered in any way. I've never even seen anyone field him.

I'm in agreement with Kan- Illic, like most other Finecast, is already Direct-only, and the rumors that all of Finecast is out the door soon seem to be matching up. He'll probably still be mentioned in the fluff as some sort of consolation prize, but I think Eldar might see a culling that leaves the Dark Eldar players saying "phew!" by comparison to their losses.

Actually, it is probably a huge selection of formations. The eldar have so many options it made my tyranid playing buddy stutter. We have 4 pages of HQ, then 2-3 PAGES of every other slot. That's without each unit getting a dedicated page.

I expect there to be a formation named (and themed) after each of the major craft worlds. Then one for the phoenix lords, one for the wraithknight, one for guardians, storm guardians, and Vaul's wrath support batteries, avatar of Khaine singled out.

I would like to see one for multiple Autarchs. I don't know what other units would be in the formation with them, but a command formation that didn't include psyckers would be nice. (Those would be in a seer council formation)

I really hope its Formations, not Craft world Tactics.


Craftworlders are only a couple generations removed from being a single People, whereas Marines are hundreds of generations removed from being 20 distinctly different Legions.

Iyanden might field a Spirit Host at the drop of a pin, but Samm-Hain will, when sufficiently boned. Biel-Tan might be known for Swordwind, and Uthwe for Guardians, but Uthwe can field a few Thousand Cuts strike forces, and Biel-Tan can field the militia where necessary. Just about the only thing I can think of that isn't much better fluffwise as a Formation than a Tactic are Black Guardians, but even then, not by much.

So I'm really hoping for Formations!

(Perhaps that's because I play Uthwe swordwind...)

 Accolade wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I could also see Illic Nightspear getting a nerf(sadly) or flat-out being removed from the Codex, and his Pathfinders simply becoming the basic Ranger option.

As he has a brand new model, I very much doubt he would get removed. Why would he need a nerf though? I wasn't under the impression he was overpowered in any way. I've never even seen anyone field him.

I'm in agreement with Kan- Illic, like most other Finecast, is already Direct-only, and the rumors that all of Finecast is out the door soon seem to be matching up. He'll probably still be mentioned in the fluff as some sort of consolation prize, but I think Eldar might see a culling that leaves the Dark Eldar players saying "phew!" by comparison to their losses.

I will say that if they really are releasing plastic Rangers/Pathfinders?

I could see him either getting a plastic clamshell OR being able to be built out of the box.


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 Redemption wrote:

I could also see Illic Nightspear getting a nerf(sadly) or flat-out being removed from the Codex, and his Pathfinders simply becoming the basic Ranger option.

As he has a brand new model, I very much doubt he would get removed. Why would he need a nerf though? I wasn't under the impression he was overpowered in any way. I've never even seen anyone field him.

I've fielded him a few times, and it always surprised people how little points he was for the possibility of Instant Death on something nasty thanks to Voidbringer, at a really nice range(48") and an absurdly high BS(9).

Couple that with Shrouded, the ability to Split Fire if you have him as your Warlord(which is hilariously fun to do against Tyranids; Illic split-fires at a big Synaptic gribbly and his Pathfinders start putting shots on other Synaptic critters), and the "Every shot made by this model is a Precision Shot" special rule(which his Pathfinders get, same with Shrouded).
The "Walker of the Hidden Path" special rule is one that I haven't ever really bothered to try though.

I doubt he'd be able to be built out of the box, as rangers don't have a captain per se, I'd hope the pathfinders are rather customisable, with plenty of pose options. Potentially, the autarch clam pack could contain a rifle? As there is therefore a way to make illic, or give an autarach the relic rifle.

I can see the argument for finecast being gone and as a by product the illic finecast also going. But I severely hope they don't cut down the special characters like in the DE dex, as lets be honest, DE HQs right now are basically just Pinpoint deepstrikers - one of the hackyslashy variety, one of the shooty variety and one of the coven variety. To me the DE dex is great - the worst part being the character loss.

If they do drop special characters, i'd still like there to be options. Perhaps not so much like SM tactics, but more like a generic cost to get an army wide upgrade? I dunno. But I like special characters, or atleast a way to play a HQ as something other than a generic 'blahhh' character who has a rifle.

 Accolade wrote:

 Redemption wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I could also see Illic Nightspear getting a nerf(sadly) or flat-out being removed from the Codex, and his Pathfinders simply becoming the basic Ranger option.

As he has a brand new model, I very much doubt he would get removed. Why would he need a nerf though? I wasn't under the impression he was overpowered in any way. I've never even seen anyone field him.

I'm in agreement with Kan- Illic, like most other Finecast, is already Direct-only, and the rumors that all of Finecast is out the door soon seem to be matching up. He'll probably still be mentioned in the fluff as some sort of consolation prize, but I think Eldar might see a culling that leaves the Dark Eldar players saying "phew!" by comparison to their losses.

Skulltaker and Flesh Hounds of Khorne and such are also web exclusive finecast models. They were still included in Codex: Khorne Daemonkin.

Please no new rangers, they are already some of the most beautiful sculpts in the game!

Hope this means eldae will get more plastic and less failcast ..and not some weird new unit

Also anyone can se if the ranger is new ?
Looks like its a sitning one with a helmet ..and that dont match the current failcast ones ..but its hard to tel..can be the one withe the helmet too..


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Mymearan wrote:
Please no new rangers, they are already some of the most beautiful sculpts in the game!

and made in failcast ..sure the look grate on the GW site but this is hoe they look in reality

New redirects found by Atia:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-farseer-skyrunner
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-autarch-skyrunner

Farseer and Autarch on a jetbike?! \o/

 Redemption wrote:
New redirects found by Atia:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-farseer-skyrunner
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-autarch-skyrunner

Farseer and Autarch on a jetbike?! \o/

A resounding meh until I see pics...

 Verviedi wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
New redirects found by Atia:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-farseer-skyrunner
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/eldar-autarch-skyrunner

Farseer and Autarch on a jetbike?! \o/

A resounding meh until I see pics...

Hahah plus 1

If the Dark Eldar and Harlequin jetbikes are anything to go by, I'm guessing they'll look awesome.

As long as they keep any silly looking bolas at home, at least.

 Claimh_Solais wrote:
Hope this means eldae will get more plastic and less failcast ..and not some weird new unit

Also anyone can se if the ranger is new ?
Looks like its a sitning one with a helmet ..and that dont match the current failcast ones ..but its hard to tel..can be the one withe the helmet too..


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Mymearan wrote:
Please no new rangers, they are already some of the most beautiful sculpts in the game!

and made in failcast ..sure the look grate on the GW site but this is hoe they look in reality

Guess I'm lucky that I have 10 metal ones then!

There's no way I'm ever starting another Eldar army.