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2015/04/24 01:31:57
Subject: Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
The Eldar drama is nearly over. It looks like the knew Knights may have Quake Cannon, Volcano Cannon, and Void Shield Generator. Could this not just be another Ranged D, but LONG Ranged D?
In 5 years, we can just remove all the non-D cannon units and call it a day. ESCALATION, BABY.
•Crusader is armed with: Quake Cannon, TL Las-cannons
•Warden is armed with: Volcano Cannon, Multi-barreled Autocannon
•Both models have an optional top carapace missile launcher weapon mount, with multishot S8, AP3 anti-flyer capability
•Both models are protected by a single energy field based heavily on the rules for the Stronghold Assault book’s Void Shield Generator.
•Armor Values: Front:14 Side:13 Rear:13
•Hull Points: 8
•Both models clock in well above the cost of the Knight Paladin/Errant
2015/04/24 02:00:13
Subject: Re:Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
Talys wrote: The Eldar drama is nearly over. It looks like the knew Knights may have Quake Cannon, Volcano Cannon, and Void Shield Generator. Could this not just be another Ranged D, but LONG Ranged D?
In 5 years, we can just remove all the non-D cannon units and call it a day. ESCALATION, BABY.
•Crusader is armed with: Quake Cannon, TL Las-cannons
•Warden is armed with: Volcano Cannon, Multi-barreled Autocannon
•Both models have an optional top carapace missile launcher weapon mount, with multishot S8, AP3 anti-flyer capability
•Both models are protected by a single energy field based heavily on the rules for the Stronghold Assault book’s Void Shield Generator.
•Armor Values: Front:14 Side:13 Rear:13
•Hull Points: 8
•Both models clock in well above the cost of the Knight Paladin/Errant
It's well over 375 points so expect something closer to the cost of two wraith kniights
2015/04/24 03:10:31
Subject: Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
Red Corsair wrote: Yea best case scenario is getting 3 WC's from your dice pool + 3 from a large council + any farseers also in range in the council (2 are required for the formation at least) so 3wc+3(warlocks)+6(two ML 3 farseers)=12 shots. should yield about 10 wounds before saves. If they have fortune or sanctuary or even conceal with jink your not killing more then a couple.
If the Culexus is in 12" of the Warlocks they loose their blessings immidiatly, by the Psychic Abomination rule.
I like his Anti-psy rules..., i think i will take one wiht my Deamonkin for the lolz next time i face my deamon of Tzeentch/T-sons buddy..., ohh the laugh i will have...
Accolade wrote: So then there is no Escalation or Apocalypse anymore. There is just Mega 40k...
Hm...
It's BoLS, I wouldn't worry much.
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2015/04/24 05:18:43
Subject: Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
It's up to you to decide the kinds of 40k games you want to play.
They may as well print that in the rule book. Oh wait, they already did.
"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life.
2015/04/24 07:49:22
Subject: Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
Ravenous D wrote: 40K is like a beloved grandparent that is slowly falling into dementia and the rest of the family is in denial about how bad it is.
squidhills wrote: GW is scared of girls. Why do you think they have so much trouble sculpting attractive female models? Because girls have cooties and the staff at GW don't like looking at them for too long because it makes them feel funny in their naughty place.
2015/04/24 09:19:36
Subject: Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
Matt.Kingsley wrote: The Eldar: "Though we may me a dying race, we'll make sure you die long before us." *Prepares scatbikes and D weapon spam*
The Imperium: "Don't be so sure, foul Xenos!" *Prepares new, more powerful Knights*
*Universe explodes and every faction gets wiped from the material plane, with CSMs and Orks dying first*
Exalted !!
I can't help but think that development will go as follows the next year and a half.
Orks: No! No! We gave Eldar D-weapons and added more knights. What can we do? SD Shokk Attack weapons! 250 point Stompa! SD choppas!
AM: Roll out the Volcano Cannons!
Dark Eldar: You can ally with Eldar. Deal With It.
Necrons: MORE S D.
Tyranids: You get Fleshbane! And...uh....SD Boneswords! And Crack-stealers that will die instantly to the mass SD range spam!
Space Marines: More like D Marines.
Sisters of Battle: More like Strength D of Battle, eh?
Tau: Everything pulse is SD and ignores cover!
Chaos: NO. YOU GET NOTHING. SUFFER FOR THE SINS OF HAINES. (*Mutter mutter* no one liked your stupid 4 Heavy support Iron Warriors with its Siren spam. You deserve all this.)
Now only a CSM player.
2015/04/24 14:05:58
Subject: Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
DarknessEternal wrote: It's up to you to decide the kinds of 40k games you want to play.
They may as well print that in the rule book. Oh wait, they already did.
Right, they've always printed that in the rulebook. Of course printing that in the rulebook means very little since I sure as hell don't need GW's permission to play the way I feel like anyway.
However, since I am mainly in the PUG side of the environment and lack a gaming group where we sip tea and muse over our current narrative campaign, I've been finding people using the rules to their maximum benefit. Maybe not max jetbikes and wraithknights, but usually in the shades of grey where it becomes hard to argue that someone is purposely being cheesy. That to me is the problem with the rules becoming more and more open-ended (besides the fact that it makes their increasingly-quicker recycling even more pointless)- the increasing arms race of plastic miniatures and dilution of value of any of the existing models. I'm getting less and less mileage per dollar invested, although I'm not entirely sure the game experience is becoming more enriching by inflating everything that much more (I would argue it is not but that is a separate topic). I much preferred the greater structure that 5th and previous editions offered as compared to this new mini-Apoc that is taking over core 40k.
So I think I will do as GW says and see if I can get people to play previous editions. I still enjoy my miniatures greatly but I'm just not onboard with what GW is trying to sell me anymore.
2015/04/24 14:55:49
Subject: Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
Matt.Kingsley wrote: The Eldar: "Though we may me a dying race, we'll make sure you die long before us." *Prepares scatbikes and D weapon spam*
The Imperium: "Don't be so sure, foul Xenos!" *Prepares new, more powerful Knights*
*Universe explodes and every faction gets wiped from the material plane, with CSMs and Orks dying first*
Exalted !!
I can't help but think that development will go as follows the next year and a half.
Orks: No! No! We gave Eldar D-weapons and added more knights. What can we do? SD Shokk Attack weapons! 250 point Stompa! SD choppas!
AM: Roll out the Volcano Cannons!
Dark Eldar: You can ally with Eldar. Deal With It.
Necrons: MORE S D.
Tyranids: You get Fleshbane! And...uh....SD Boneswords! And Crack-stealers that will die instantly to the mass SD range spam!
Space Marines: More like D Marines.
Sisters of Battle: More like Strength D of Battle, eh?
Tau: Everything pulse is SD and ignores cover!
Chaos: NO. YOU GET NOTHING. SUFFER FOR THE SINS OF HAINES. (*Mutter mutter* no one liked your stupid 4 Heavy support Iron Warriors with its Siren spam. You deserve all this.)
Nope. It's going to go: Orks? You just got a brand new codex you don't need one for another 4 years. Deal with it.
Well if the orks were just winning all the time -how sad and depressed they would be!
Probably the only truly happy race in the universe of only war.
Surely, they have a real good time, even if the codex sucks.
Thokt wrote: Looking at the detachment rumors for the guardian battle host - are we certain that's a Vaul's Wrath battery - as in 3 weapons, or just one?
- Also curious is you can take one vyper and one war walker for the battle host as well.
Those are generally 1-3, so you should be good.
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2015/04/24 19:12:16
Subject: Eldar Rumors - Page 24/25 first info & pics.
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