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Hollismason wrote:
Their ruling is no ranged D , so that eliminates 4 units from the Eldar Codex.

LOL yeah. I didn't even think of that.

 Talys wrote:


Well, that would be fair, man. 100+ points for a WS if it weren't an offensive platform would be overcosted.

Oh, I'm not saying otherwise, but its still a great transport and gunship wrapped in one neat package.

Dare I say it, but I think it may be appropriately costed given its abilities.

I personally dislike the shield as a weapon, but being one shot and 24" is limiting. S6 2D6 is powerful though when you need it. At first glance, the serpent looks fine.

Its the EJB and Wraithknights that everyone is concerned with, and rightfully so.

With the prevalence of "D weapons", particularly the shooting varients... I wonder if GW is trying to speed up the game a bit. lol...

WEEEELP, not playing Eldar sucks for that one guy who loves wraith-units. This codex is full of just straight up NOOOOOOPE! fething GW, I just want a fething BALANCED GAME, YOU WERE DOING SO GOOD UP TO NECRONS.

So since this update happened, I think we can concur Assault Marines will NOT be able to assault flyers as BA are not able to. Furthermore, Wraithknights now kick Imperial Knight ass in-and-out of combat, I can't even ID the fethers with force now.

Did they actually buff everything except Wave Serpents and expect that to be ok?

Alright, I was somewhat ok with the Scatterbikes. I can deal with this, I thought.

But what the butts is this crap.

This isn't ordinary stupidity.

This is advanced stupidity.

 Quickjager wrote:
WEEEELP, not playing Eldar sucks for that one guy who loves wraith-units. This codex is full of just straight up NOOOOOOPE! fething GW, I just want a fething BALANCED GAME, YOU WERE DOING SO GOOD UP TO NECRONS.

So since this update happened, I think we can concur Assault Marines will NOT be able to assault flyers as BA are not able to. Furthermore, Wraithknights now kick Imperial Knight ass in-and-out of combat, I can't even ID the fethers with force now.

If I ever played Eldar it would have been Iyanden style, lots of Wraithguard and Wraithblades. They're slick models and the fluff is awesome. But now, I'm glad I never did. Holy crap am I ever glad I never did.

I just took a look at Warseer -- the person saying that they have the codex says Wraithknights are now LoW and 295 points (with cannons as default weapons).

So probably max 1 WK in most scenes. Price is awesome, though.

Phew, at least wraithknights are Lord's of war. Only way to get multiples is to use the decurion style building and there are too many taxes to spam. I'm actually away from the freak out cliff now.

Not showing up in itunes. :(

 buddha wrote:
Phew, at least wraithknights are Lord's of war. Only way to get multiples is to use the decurion style building and there are too many taxes to spam. I'm actually away from the freak out cliff now.

So, now I have to run Windriders to get more than one Wraithknight? Oh no!

Are they though... I think they eldar "decurion" allows for 12 wraithknights....

Only CAD is limited to 1 (which you'd have to be an idiot to run, unless you want 2 full jetbike squads with obsec firing 40 S6 shots at 48"... for a mere 270p).

I think Phil Kelly needs to be fired at this point.

Dire avengers: They overwatch with BS2

Avatar is LoW, but mainly the same

I cannot see any psyker being able to get malefic daemonology

 buddha wrote:
Phew, at least wraithknights are Lord's of war. Only way to get multiples is to use the decurion style building and there are too many taxes to spam. I'm actually away from the freak out cliff now.

Almost every competitive scene limits to 1 Lord of War anyhow. Depending on what else is in the LoW slot, this is actually quite limiting. Plus, no more WK spam.

 Thud wrote:

 buddha wrote:
Phew, at least wraithknights are Lord's of war. Only way to get multiples is to use the decurion style building and there are too many taxes to spam. I'm actually away from the freak out cliff now.

So, now I have to run Windriders to get more than one Wraithknight? Oh no!

And one Vyper.

People will surely not buy one Vyper to spam Scatterbikes and Wraithknights for all the remaining points, no? Should be save.

I play Iyanden, my time is finally here!

My army is so badass now that players will flee the table in fear.

I'm running an Iyanden army, all painted up in glorious Iyanden colors. I got into Eldar back in 6th because I loved Farseers and Wraithguard -- and now it looks like I'm going to have to reassure my opponent that I'm not a TFG every time I put my models onto the table.

Well at least people can't blame Ward for this one, it's got Kelly all over it.

mr_draken wrote:
Dire avengers: They overwatch with BS2

Avatar is LoW, but mainly the same

I cannot see any psyker being able to get malefic daemonology

At least that's something.

 Swabby wrote:
I play Iyanden, my time is finally here!

My army is so badass now that players will flee the table in fear.

Fear and disgust might look somewhat similar.

Requizen wrote:

 Quickjager wrote:
WEEEELP, not playing Eldar sucks for that one guy who loves wraith-units. This codex is full of just straight up NOOOOOOPE! fething GW, I just want a fething BALANCED GAME, YOU WERE DOING SO GOOD UP TO NECRONS.

So since this update happened, I think we can concur Assault Marines will NOT be able to assault flyers as BA are not able to. Furthermore, Wraithknights now kick Imperial Knight ass in-and-out of combat, I can't even ID the fethers with force now.

If I ever played Eldar it would have been Iyanden style, lots of Wraithguard and Wraithblades. They're slick models and the fluff is awesome. But now, I'm glad I never did. Holy crap am I ever glad I never did.

Ironically the only wraith unit in the game that isn't insane is the wraithblade unit, you know the one that I'm not even sure the rules for it are because I have literally never seen it. Also Dire Avengers overwatch as BS2, why?

The ebook preview is online. The sample only has a bit of fluff. There is some nice artwork at least - not much is shown otherwise



Iuchiban leaking the Codex on Warseer on the other hand - very interesting

So while everyone else is worried about jet bikes with S6, I'm just sat here thinking about Eldar getting drop pods...

1-3 Falcons, Deep striking within 4" of each other, with 5 aspect warriors and an exarch inside them.

On the plus side, this will make playing games against eldar much quicker, so more time for drinking beer and playing something else!

 Swabby wrote:
I play Iyanden, my time is finally here!

My army is so badass now that players will flee the table in fear.

Nope I don't quit tourney games for cheese. I'll kindly deploy my guys skip my turns and let you have fun with the shooting gallery.

GW! Fun for everyone.

By the way, for those talking about spamming wk in the warhost it remains to be seen of there are LoW restrictions (the leaker didn't mention anything about the war host). Plus, tournaments limit LoWs anyhow.

Pre-orders are up

the bikes must be a old kit that GW hade on ice ...not making it as a dual kit for the shining spears are odd indeed

AND ..the old crapcast spears and Autarch are back online ( phiuu no new finecast at least)

Scatter lasers and Cannons should be limited to 3 in a squad, easily enough fire power to be useful and it would give them more of a purpose beyond objective grabbing.

Gotta love the blatant way they make all of their latest releases way overpowered. What received the biggest buffs? Windriders, Wraithguard and Wraith Knights. What are their latest kits........?

 Red Corsair wrote:

. Regular wraith guard still delete stuff whole sale. Honestly D strength wall of flame and templates still makes the scythes stupid good if they remained ap2. "Oh yea btw these are the weak ones they only cause 3+d3 wounds on a 3+"

That is not a possible Destroyer weapon result.

Any chance you could list all the benefits from the different formations? That would be awesome.
Thanks.
That's a big one but lets go:

Guardian battlehost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Guardians can purchase a Platform for free.

Windrider host: Once per game all formation gets Shred when firing shuriken weapons

Guardian Stormhost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Storm guardians can purchase 2 special weapons for free.

Seer council: They harness Warp charges with 3+.

Aspect Host: They re-roll LD tests and get +1 to WS or BS.

Dire Avenger Shrine: Once per game, Shuriken weapons are Assault 3. +1 to BS

Crimson Death: Preferred enemy (Flying things), 4+ cover save, and if Jink, may re-roll the cover save.

Wraithhost: Get battle trance, if targe is at 18" or less from spiritser, reroll to hit

Also, Warp Spiders were nerfed badly with the loss of AP1.