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**SarisKhan**

Ranged Strength D is forbidden at the local tournaments where I usually play, and SH/GC are restricted to one per army. I think it's gonna be fine here.

Equipping my Dark Wraithknight with the Glaive and Shield. Gotta bring the D up close to those omnipresent Imperial Knights.

**Wonderwolf**

mr_draken wrote:

Wraithhost: Get battle trance, if targe is at 18" or less from spiritser, reroll to hit

Phew.... I was starting to fear all those shiny D-Weapons would have to rely on fickle psychic powers for re-rolls.

**frankr**

DarknessEternal wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:

. Regular wraith guard still delete stuff whole sale. Honestly D strength wall of flame and templates still makes the scythes stupid good if they remained ap2. "Oh yea btw these are the weak ones they only cause 3+d3 wounds on a 3+"

That is not a possible Destroyer weapon result.

Exactly, and lets not forget Destroyer wounds are not allocated to a unit, but to specific models. So each D-Scyth can only kill d3 models, just like today.

-frank

**rollawaythestone**

Windrider host: Once per game all formation gets Shred when firing shuriken weapons

Holy....

**Warhams-77**

Awesome rules - Deepstriking Falcons - YES

**Blacksails**

This just keeps getting better!

**Hollismason**

Or worse depends on your point of view.

**Kanluwen**

rollawaythestone wrote:
Windrider host: Once per game all formation gets Shred when firing shuriken weapons

Holy....

HAH.

That actually makes players have to choose between Scatter Lasers or Shuriken weapons. It makes things somewhat more tolerable...aside from y'know, the whole 10 point Scatter Lasers.

**mr_draken**

Yeah, i think we found a reason to not take scatter spam jetbikes.

**Requizen**

mr_draken wrote:
Any chance you could list all the benefits from the different formations? That would be awesome.
Thanks.
That's a big one but lets go:

Guardian battlehost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Guardians can purchase a Platform for free.

Windrider host: Once per game all formation gets Shred when firing shuriken weapons

Guardian Stormhost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Storm guardians can purchase 2 special weapons for free.

Seer council: They harness Warp charges with 3+.

Aspect Host: They re-roll LD tests and get +1 to WS or BS.

Dire Avenger Shrine: Once per game, Shuriken weapons are Assault 3. +1 to BS

Crimson Death: Preferred enemy (Flying things), 4+ cover save, and if Jink, may re-roll the cover save.

Wraithhost: Get battle trance, if targe is at 18" or less from spiritser, reroll to hit

Hahaha

Even if you think the Necron book is too good, NONE of the formation bonuses are nearly as good as some of these. Even giving Wraiths RP isn't close to some of this butts.

**Wayniac**

This sounds like it's beyond ridiculous. And for the longest time I was wanting to do a Ghost Army (I shelved that idea along with many others), but ranged Strength D weapons on regular guys?

They aren't even trying anymore. They must literally be like "I say chaps you know what would be smashing? If Wraithguard were Strength D! Quite fluffy, don't you think? Quite." and not even caring how it unbalances the game.

**mortetvie**

Requizen wrote:
mr_draken wrote:
Any chance you could list all the benefits from the different formations? That would be awesome.
Thanks.
That's a big one but lets go:

Guardian battlehost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Guardians can purchase a Platform for free.

Windrider host: Once per game all formation gets Shred when firing shuriken weapons

Guardian Stormhost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Storm guardians can purchase 2 special weapons for free.

Seer council: They harness Warp charges with 3+.

Aspect Host: They re-roll LD tests and get +1 to WS or BS.

Dire Avenger Shrine: Once per game, Shuriken weapons are Assault 3. +1 to BS

Crimson Death: Preferred enemy (Flying things), 4+ cover save, and if Jink, may re-roll the cover save.

Wraithhost: Get battle trance, if targe is at 18" or less from spiritser, reroll to hit

Hahaha

Even if you think the Necron book is too good, NONE of the formation bonuses are nearly as good as some of these. Even giving Wraiths RP isn't close to some of this butts.

So like re-rolling ALL shooting to-hit rolls and to-wound/armor pen is not better than any of these? Hmm k... How about reanimation protocols on Wraiths, not as good either? I beg to differ.

**Oaka**

Our gaming group hasn't played a 7th edition game yet. I would love to convince them to play against Eldar next month and film the reaction. I imagine it would look similar to the 2 Girls 1 Cup reaction videos.

**Hollismason**

Hahaha welp , pack up your things if you play against a Eldar player who wants to win

**pretre**

Shred on SC for 10 points and all you have to do is take stuff you want and a vyper. Ugh.

**Nevelon**

Sticking with the CAD is looking better and better. These buffs are terrible! They will cost me all my friends and ability to get games.

I have enough of that “Sorry, that’s just they way the rules/unit is, I know it’s a little broken” just with the current codex. I feel that playing this new one I’m going to have to preface every statement with “Please don’t hit me in the face, but…"

**Requizen**

mortetvie wrote:
Requizen wrote:
mr_draken wrote:
Any chance you could list all the benefits from the different formations? That would be awesome.
Thanks.
That's a big one but lets go:

Guardian battlehost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Guardians can purchase a Platform for free.

Windrider host: Once per game all formation gets Shred when firing shuriken weapons

Guardian Stormhost: Vypers, Warwalkers and Vaul's support batteries get preferred enemy if they have a unit of Guardias at 12". Storm guardians can purchase 2 special weapons for free.

Seer council: They harness Warp charges with 3+.

Aspect Host: They re-roll LD tests and get +1 to WS or BS.

Dire Avenger Shrine: Once per game, Shuriken weapons are Assault 3. +1 to BS

Crimson Death: Preferred enemy (Flying things), 4+ cover save, and if Jink, may re-roll the cover save.

Wraithhost: Get battle trance, if targe is at 18" or less from spiritser, reroll to hit

Hahaha

Even if you think the Necron book is too good, NONE of the formation bonuses are nearly as good as some of these. Even giving Wraiths RP isn't close to some of this butts.

So like re-rolling ALL shooting to-hit rolls and to-wound/armor pen is not better than any of these? Hmm k... How about reanimation protocols on Wraiths, not as good either? I beg to differ.

Destroyers reroll 1s to hit, not all. And rerolling to wounds and pens is strong, but they're 40-50 point models and only have 1 or 2 shots each. Please compare that to rerolling Shuriken Cannons, even for a turn. Especially when they basically get free twin linked with Divination Farseers.

Reanimation Protocol Wraiths don't exist after turn 1 now that everyone realized that Spyders die really quickly.

**pretre**

ALPHA STRIKE.

**WrentheFaceless**

Welp I'll just insta forfeit against all Eldar players now

**Warhams-77**

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**greyknight12**

SarisKhan wrote:
Equipping my Dark Wraithknight with the Glaive and Shield. Gotta bring the D up close to those omnipresent Imperial Knights.

If their base stats don't change, wraithknights will have better initiative and more attacks than an imperial knight while actually having a save in CC, for 75 fewer points, and be more survivable against melta and haywire. Literally the only edge IK will have is immunity to S5.

I guess that having your codex banned/refused games is one way to nerf elder, but not at all the way I was expecting/hoping for.

EDIT: And how come guardian weapon platforms cost more than the bike upgrades?

**Wonderwolf**

Fun book.

I love it how you can new have things like BS5 Fire Dragons falling out of no-scatter Deep Striking Falcons and it's still a gakky overall choice internally.

**Blacksails**

Wonderwolf wrote:
Fun book.

I love it how you can new have things like BS5 Fire Dragons falling out of no-scatter Deep Striking Falcons and it's still a gakky overall choice internally.

When you put it like that...

**Lou_Cypher**

Wraith knights getting Colossal on his D Weapon. Anyone wanna confirm?

**Wilson**

Is it petition time yet?

**MrFlutterPie**

Who were the guys saying that we are all panicking for no reason and how we don't know the full rules yet?

Serious question now, when does GW fiscal year end? Is it June or July? I am wondering if this is meant to act a shot in the arm for the yearly report.

**Thariinye**

I guess the only thing holding the WK back is that it can't get really good ranged weapons and D melee at the same time.

The Wraithcannons give you two D shots, but then you don't have D melee (not much consolation if it's still S10 AP2) and you don't have any invuln save. If you have the D sword, you have to run with Scatter Lasers, so you don't have significant ranged presence.

So there's that at least. Well at least that's what I'm saying to myself to justify my buying my first IK last week to be an ally to my Iyanden instead of having a WK.

**Mr.Church13**

MrFlutterPie wrote:
Who were the guys saying that we are all panicking for no reason and how we don't know the full rules yet?

Serious question now, when does GW fiscal year end? Is it June or July? I am wondering if this is meant to act a shot in the arm for the yearly report.

It's actually a double boost. When no one who buys an Eldar army can get a game they'll have to switch armies to play again. Thereby pumping sales of other armies.

**Nevelon**

Last/latest post from Iuchiban

Ok guys, I have to go.
I'm sorry but it is imposible to answer everything

Before leaving I will post the list of special ítems:

- A pistol S4, AP3, Rending
- A sword +2S, AP- Rending and if fighting in a challenge, wounds on 2+ and Instant Death
- One sniper rifle, AP2, 120"
- One ítem that if bearer does not cast any phychic power, or shots during the shooting phase, he can run 48" and may reroll cover saves.
- One sword +1S, AP3, Soulblaze (affects wounded unit and all enemy units at 6")
- One ítem that when bearer diez, 5" template is placed and all models suffer one S4, AP5 hit. If at least, one wound is infflicted, bearer comes back to life, with 1W. One use only
- One ítem that makes psyhic powers required 1 WC less. No inv saves if done so.

**Las**

How did they eff up so hard on an otherwise great bunch of codeces?