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Very straightforward question.

Small game, elves player fields only assassins. Assassins can't be the general. Who is the general?

As far as I can tell, even in End Times craziness one model has to be the General. So he would have to field one eligible model.

Heck, if I read the spoilered pictures correctly, even a War Hydra could be the general. Somebody's gotta do it.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Heck, if I read the spoilered pictures correctly, even a War Hydra could be the general. Somebody's gotta do it.

Yup. The book even states that a generic line trooper can be selected as General if you have nobody else to choose.

Edit: Just looked it up in the book, Egregious is correct. The rule says if you have Lords/Heroes, one of them must be the General. It then calls out models that state that they can't be the General and states that if they are your only Lords/Heroes choices, a unit Champion MUST be the General and that if you have no Champions any other model must be made the General. So the order of Generalship elegibility in Archaon:

1. Lord/Hero without "Can't be General" rule
2. Unit Champion
3. Other model without "Can't be General" rule

Even in the Archaon rules, you MUST field some model without that rule. In short, an army of purely Assassins(either DE or Skaven) is an illegitimate list.

Thanks - one might still field a clan eshin army using a grey seer, but it's not the same thing

Vetril wrote:
Thanks - one might still field a clan eshin army using a grey seer, but it's not the same thing

Or a Mordheim Eshin Sorceror using Counts-As for a Warlock Engineer, properly equipped with Poison and Tail Weapon, of course.

Well, its not really "unbound" then.

Unbound cept for this one way we hork over the Dark Elves.

It's oppresive tyranny of the worst kind!

Shotgun wrote:
Well, its not really "unbound" then.

Unbound cept for this one way we hork over the Dark Elves.

It's oppresive tyranny of the worst kind!

And Skaven. In fact, Skaven have more models with that rule than Dark Elves do.

I'm going to play an all-slave army and have one called Rattacus who's going to be the leader

Guess it'll be a 800-pt battle ... don't want to paint more slaves

 TanKoL wrote:
I'm going to play an all-slave army and have one called Rattacus who's going to be the leader

Guess it'll be a 800-pt battle ... don't want to paint more slaves

Only allowed if you shift around who the General is as they're killed. "I'm Rattacus! No, I'm Rattacus!"

So wait... let's say you make a regular line trooper your general. (You have no unit champs and no lords/heroes who can be your general.) Does that mean that since they're a regular Rank and File model, that Step Up keeps the alive against basically anything that doesn't target a specific model.

For instance, I make my list:

Vermin Lord
Vermin Lord
Assassin
Assassin
Slaves x rest of my points.

That my slave general has a ridiculous number of ablative wounds?

 Egregious wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
I'm going to play an all-slave army and have one called Rattacus who's going to be the leader

Guess it'll be a 800-pt battle ... don't want to paint more slaves

Only allowed if you shift around who the General is as they're killed. "I'm Rattacus! No, I'm Rattacus!"

As its Skaven, shouldn't it be: "He's Rattacus! No, he's Rattacus!"

 grendel083 wrote:

 Egregious wrote:

 TanKoL wrote:
I'm going to play an all-slave army and have one called Rattacus who's going to be the leader

Guess it'll be a 800-pt battle ... don't want to paint more slaves

Only allowed if you shift around who the General is as they're killed. "I'm Rattacus! No, I'm Rattacus!"

As its Skaven, shouldn't it be: "He's Rattacus! No, he's Rattacus!"

Technically, they all singled out the actual Rattacus at the same time .