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Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

 Rippy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

That would excite the crap outta me if I could make that.

The Sicarans are more like you're thinking, and i suspect the main Skitarii force will be as well. The Rangers/Vanguards just happen to be the most human looking, since they're advance forces with little support, and bipedal with hands is a really good shape for that kind of role.

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

That would excite the crap outta me if I could make that.

I imagined the robes going virtually all the way to the ground to cover up whatever crazy legs, wheels, tracks, cords. I always imagined the robes being used to conceal the true nature of admech.

I completely revoke any and all negative comments I made on this army.

The FoC gives really good bonuses (crusader and scout on everything) and the doctrines are just insane.

Pop +3 BS, -2 WS on your first turn and suddenly your entire shooting becomes BS7.

The turn after, when all your melee guys are in because obviously those guys are getting range with scout move, turn one move-run and second turn move-charge adding 3" to any move except the scout move.

Even going through terrain, they're mobile as feth.

Turn 1:
6" (scout), 8" on average going through terrain,, another 8" for run move.
Turn 2:
8" move through terrain followed by a 10" on average.

That's 34" by turn 2.

DaPino wrote:
I completely revoke any and all negative comments I made on this army.

The FoC gives really good bonuses (crusader and scout on everything) and the doctrines are just insane.

Pop +3 BS, -2 WS on your first turn and suddenly your entire shooting becomes BS7.

The turn after, when all your melee guys are in because obviously those guys are getting range with scout move, turn one move-run and second turn move-charge adding 3" to any move except the scout move.

Even going through terrain, they're mobile as feth.

Turn 1:
6" (scout), 8" on average going through terrain,, another 8" for run move.
Turn 2:
8" move through terrain followed by a 10" on average.

That's 34" by turn 2.

you have the 'dex already?

I'd like to know that as well.

DaPino wrote:
I completely revoke any and all negative comments I made on this army.

The FoC gives really good bonuses (crusader and scout on everything) and the doctrines are just insane.

Pop +3 BS, -2 WS on your first turn and suddenly your entire shooting becomes BS7.

The turn after, when all your melee guys are in because obviously those guys are getting range with scout move, turn one move-run and second turn move-charge adding 3" to any move except the scout move.

Even going through terrain, they're mobile as feth.

Turn 1:
6" (scout), 8" on average going through terrain,, another 8" for run move.
Turn 2:
8" move through terrain followed by a 10" on average.

That's 34" by turn 2.

but these aren't the best assault troops in the game. Just because you can close the gap, doesnt mean you can win once you get there. Having played with super high WS, it isnt enough to win you a lot of fights on its own.

 Exergy wrote:

DaPino wrote:
I completely revoke any and all negative comments I made on this army.

The FoC gives really good bonuses (crusader and scout on everything) and the doctrines are just insane.

Pop +3 BS, -2 WS on your first turn and suddenly your entire shooting becomes BS7.

The turn after, when all your melee guys are in because obviously those guys are getting range with scout move, turn one move-run and second turn move-charge adding 3" to any move except the scout move.

Even going through terrain, they're mobile as feth.

Turn 1:
6" (scout), 8" on average going through terrain,, another 8" for run move.
Turn 2:
8" move through terrain followed by a 10" on average.

That's 34" by turn 2.

but these aren't the best assault troops in the game. Just because you can close the gap, doesnt mean you can win once you get there. Having played with super high WS, it isnt enough to win you a lot of fights on its own.

no but it might be what allows your "CYBORG NINJAS!" to survive till turn 2 of assault to get those AP2 weapons

 Exergy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

That would excite the crap outta me if I could make that.

I imagined the robes going virtually all the way to the ground to cover up whatever crazy legs, wheels, tracks, cords. I always imagined the robes being used to conceal the true nature of admech.

That is implying shame of what they are, or secrecy of their nature, both of which they are the opposite. They see their tech level as a honour.

 Rippy wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

That would excite the crap outta me if I could make that.

I imagined the robes going virtually all the way to the ground to cover up whatever crazy legs, wheels, tracks, cords. I always imagined the robes being used to conceal the true nature of admech.

That is implying shame of what they are, or secrecy of their nature, both of which they are the opposite. They see their tech level as a honour.

Certainly proud when among each other. But I guess I am thinking of a tech priest hiding himself when not among other Mechanicus lest he attract attention and perhaps lose the appearance of being human.

 Rippy wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

That would excite the crap outta me if I could make that.

I imagined the robes going virtually all the way to the ground to cover up whatever crazy legs, wheels, tracks, cords. I always imagined the robes being used to conceal the true nature of admech.

That is implying shame of what they are, or secrecy of their nature, both of which they are the opposite. They see their tech level as a honour.

I don't think that implies shame at all. There are plenty of situations where a person clothes themselves in normal every day environments with consideration for those around them. I'm not ashamed of my gut, but I probably wouldn't go wander around the mall with you wearing half a shirt. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but I'd put money on it bothering other people.

 Exergy wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

That would excite the crap outta me if I could make that.

I imagined the robes going virtually all the way to the ground to cover up whatever crazy legs, wheels, tracks, cords. I always imagined the robes being used to conceal the true nature of admech.

That is implying shame of what they are, or secrecy of their nature, both of which they are the opposite. They see their tech level as a honour.

Certainly proud when among each other. But I guess I am thinking of a tech priest hiding himself when not among other Mechanicus lest he attract attention and perhaps lose the appearance of being human.

generally tech preists don't care about such things, except for those whom act as facilitators with the rest of the Imperium. who try to remain human looking. after all it's only logical to ensure the comfort of those they must Liason with?

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

That would excite the crap outta me if I could make that.

I imagined the robes going virtually all the way to the ground to cover up whatever crazy legs, wheels, tracks, cords. I always imagined the robes being used to conceal the true nature of admech.

That is implying shame of what they are, or secrecy of their nature, both of which they are the opposite. They see their tech level as a honour.

I don't think that implies shame at all. There are plenty of situations where a person clothes themselves in normal every day environments with consideration for those around them. I'm not ashamed of my gut, but I probably wouldn't go wander around the mall with you wearing half a shirt. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but I'd put money on it bothering other people.

But if you were super proud of your gut and it was a symbol of your status, you would leave it hanging out. Which is what I was trying to say, their augmentations are a symbol of their status.

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Ya know... I gotta be honest here, I always pictured the Skitarii sort of merrr, skittering. I don't know why, I just never thought they'd be bipedal, and as machine men, I think they could've had lots of neat shapes and numbers of arms and legs. Heck even tracks, wheels and jet packs. I pictured them as rolling packs of machinery and weapons steadily crawling and leaping forward in a never ending tide of whirring writhing death that you did "not" wanna find yourself anywhere near in a dark alley late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I think the models are really excellent, just not exactly what I was expecting Skitarii to look like really. I love those walkers though.

To be honest, that is more how I imagine the Dark Mechanicum to look.

That would excite the crap outta me if I could make that.

Just in case you haven't seen it, here's one of the nicest Dark Mechanicus armies I've seen:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/395043.page

EDIT: found the actual blog on Dakka and put that up.

I like them all in every way, minus the roboninjas. though the more I say roboninja, the more I like them.

Still... Does anyone have the dex?

lliu wrote:
Still... Does anyone have the dex?

no but pretty much ALL the rules are out there now, if you check the rumor thread.

 Accolade wrote:


Just in case you haven't seen it, here's one of the nicest Dark Mechanicus armies I've seen:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/395043.page

EDIT: found the actual blog on Dakka and put that up.

Those models are really incredible man, thanks for putting that up

Where is the rules for the new stuff

warsawwarriors wrote:
Where is the rules for the new stuff

Look in the News and Rumours post!

Where is the news and rumors post?

In the Rumours forum.

So there's know real codex just what people have made up for rules i guess i won't be getting any thing why can't gw make rules for them and not some ones made up stuff

warsawwarriors wrote:
So there's know real codex just what people have made up for rules i guess i won't be getting any thing why can't gw make rules for them and not some ones made up stuff

What?

The Codex goes up for preorder today.
Everything being discussed in the News and Rumor thread is leaked material or from the previous week's White Dwarf.

So how are the Ruststalkers and Infiltrators?

lliu wrote:
So how are the Ruststalkers and Infiltrators?

generally underwelming.

The infiltrators have an aura debuff though which could be nice.

These are amazing models, don't you guys think?

@lliu - Yes! They are very unique. Love them or hate them, I don't see any accusations of ripping off other IP They also appeal to a different crowd that then standard space marine, and they're a nice break from the norm, IMO.