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As title. Trying to work out where this Horse comes from, as the size and bit of extra deco looks very good and appropriate for my LotR models.

Looks like a Perry sculpt.

I think, going on the tree emblem on the rider and the odd mix of chain and open-face barbutte helmet, that it might be an old Lord of the Rings metal.

There should be a copyright notification engraved under the base? Any info there?

winterdyne wrote:I think, going on the tree emblem on the rider and the odd mix of chain and open-face barbutte helmet, that it might be an old Lord of the Rings metal.

Azazel added the rider:

Azazelx wrote: the size and bit of extra deco looks very good and appropriate for my LotR models.

Either a Perry minature as mentioned earlier, or it could be from some old Pike & Shot figure done by Warlord, but not 100% sure about that.

I'll third that it looks like a Perry Sculpt. Don't know which in particular.

Doesn't look like a perry scuplt to me. Could be The Assault Group... I'm really not sure otherwise.

That horse reminds me a lot of the old GW fantasy horses, so I'm definitely thinking the Perrys are involved. The solid base suggests it's probably not from GW, though.

Sorry guys - should have clarified - it's not my model. I saw the pic online (someone else added the LotR rider, and I thought it was a good look to rip off. It's clearly not a GW horse, though. The details are too fine for the pre-slotta era.

The LotR model is pretty recent - from the RotK era - it's Faramir. To me that implies is that the horse is (probably) reasonably recent as well.

Something about the surface makes me think 'Ral Partha Europe', but while I can find similar ridden horses there when I search for 'horse', 'elf', and 'knight', I can't find that exact one.

'Black Tree' and 'Grenadier at Mirliton' also spring to mind, but I've no time left to go see myself.

Here's the auction in question, you could always ask the chap himself: http://www.ebay.es/itm/Faramir-in-Battle-Armour-on-Horse-BFME-New-Line-METAL-GW-LOTR-/201318104683?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2edf7e7e6b&_uhb=1

I think it might not be Ral Partha. Most Ral Partha horses I've owned or seen tend to have either flat rectangle bases or rounded bases with only slight texture that are the same at each end.

Grenadier "Fantasy warriors" miniatures also tended to have regularly shaped non=textured bases. It definitely has that old-school look though.

It could be a harlequin fantasy sculpt. (Know sold under the Black Tree design label) I have some Black Tree camels with similar irregular textured cast-on bases. However, I think the sculpt is a bit finer in proportion than most harlequin sculpts.

Of course I could be wrong. Looking forward to seeing what this turns out to be.

Honestly to God.. it could be anything mate, there are probably dozens and dozens of different companies over the years that have made a horse that looks like that.

There's not really much to go on in terms of decoration on the horse to pin it down to a particular historical period or fantasy game.

Yeah, I know. The eBay guy is a reseller, so there's no luck there. No biggie, I just thought someone here might see it and be all "I know that horse" as we often are with other models. I decided to buy a few sprues of Warlord horses instead to make up my missing LotR horses, and then today I've changed my mind and decided to buy some more Perry Mounted MAA for my fancy-pants horses, since they don't cost much more than buying the Warlord ones, and come with a nice variety of armour pieces, and a bunch of mounted MAA models and their gear that I can definitely use.

Sounds like you've moved on, but if you post it at TMP I can almost guarantee that someone will be able to identify it.

I've bought batches of old lead with mystery horses and figures so obscure I thought they'd be impossible to identify. They were able to identify more than 95% of what I posted.

This is DEFINITELY NOT The Perry's.

The horse itself is not likely to have come with the figure, which looks to be a casting of a conversion. It is just too sloppy to have anything to do with any LotR line.

But the Original GW LotR line were all slotta bases, so that isn't it, either.

I checked the Harlequin and BTD middle-earth lines, and it doesn't look to be from one of those lines.

I will go though some suspects that it might belong to (the horse), but the figure itself is too rough and sloppy to be an "official" mini.

MB

Actually, that is the original mounted Faramir.


The horse, as has been noted, is a separate mini from an unknown maker.

That might be someone's attempt at a Faramir.

I do recognize the pose.

But the sculpting on it is horrific for ANYTHING the Perry's have ever produced.

It is also not listed in the Lost Minis wiki as existing as a LotR miniature (the mounted figure), and they are usually exhaustingly thorough on that wiki.

MB

The GW page that image is from:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-PL/Faramir-Foot-and-Mounted

Webstore-only now, but in stock and can be added to the cart. It may not be a Perry sculpt, as I don't think they did ALL the LotR stuff, but it is a GW model in the OP, or at the very least a recast of one.

I have this exact mini in a box somewhere, and I hazard a guess that if I were to try and replicate that image, my own would look equally 'horiffic', as most bare metal minis do unless photographed well and preferably primed/washed to show the details.

Yea, that doesn't look at all like a recast.

If it is a recast, it is a very good recast. I don't see any double mold lines, for example, but even that doesn't indicate a recast.

It just looks like a GW production cast with a bent sword blade and bad lighting.

In any case, the question is about the horse, not the GW model on top of the horse, so discussion of the rider is rather immaterial.

 Eilif wrote:
Sounds like you've moved on, but if you post it at TMP I can almost guarantee that someone will be able to identify it.

I've bought batches of old lead with mystery horses and figures so obscure I thought they'd be impossible to identify. They were able to identify more than 95% of what I posted.

You're probably right, but I don't have a TMP account, and have never really understood how their odd forums work. So I'll probably stick with my Perry Horses unless someone like BA happens to figure out what the pictured one is. Which is obviously just a fantasy or historical horse that someone repurposed to stick a Faramir onto. And yeah, it's a real Faramir. I have 2 or 3 of that model (sans horse). Be aware that in that photo it's also been blown up to about 1000x its actual size, so naturally looks quite rough...

Found it:



Elves of Armorica Gardes Lancers from Alternative Armies

BeAfraid wrote:


But the Original GW LotR line were all slotta bases, so that isn't it, either.


MB

Actually, the horses in the original Citadel LOTR line were solid based.
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Lord_of_the_Rings:_1980%27s_Releases_-_Blister_Packs_-_Collectors_Guide

The horse in question is not part of this line though.






The horse in question is not part of this line though.

 Fabio Bile wrote:
Found it:



Elves of Armorica Gardes Lancers from Alternative Armies

Well done!