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1500 points army is a "skirmish" game ? Riiiiiight ....
I thought skirmish was about a dozen miniatures like mordheim/Necromunda.

I hope this " 1500pts skirmish" is not what was supposed to be the "warhammer skirmish" release we heard about.

ORicK wrote:
A skirmish style would be great.

But GW has one big problem on 28mm scale:
They just seem to be unable to understand that for a good skirmish game you need to activate per model or unit, not "i go, you go" for the whole army.

A game with fewer points does not make a skirmish game.
That will be just the same game for someone with less money and hopefully not enough information to know there might be better alternatives at skirmish scale.

Although Mordheim, Necromunda and IMO above all GorkaMorka were fun, they could have been good as well.

Ever played their "Regiments of Renown" rules set for Fantasy?

Because they do seem to understand the exact point you made, seeing as that's how RoR plays...

Humm dont think I trust these rumours, I mean we are a few months away and we know little to nothing about the new edition and now we have rulesets? Still waiting to see how it all unfolds...

GW should really spill the beans, as it stands no money from me.

So how does the 'game divided into three levels and ages' thing square with the older rumours about the new factions and models in bubble universes, for the new skirmish game? Doesn't sound like that'd easily mesh with the medium battles in the old, familiar warhammer world with old, familiar factions.

Oh also units will have unit cards with all of there stats on them for the launch. all of that will be available online for FREE while new army books are coming out.

be naysayers but add this to the other rumors I posted.

eflix29 wrote:
1500 points army is a "skirmish" game ? Riiiiiight ....
I thought skirmish was about a dozen miniatures like mordheim/Necromunda.

I hope this " 1500pts skirmish" is not what was supposed to be the "warhammer skirmish" release we heard about.

Haha yes, I was thinking this. We play 1250pts at my local GW and it definitely feels like a 'battle' with the numerous regiments and characters.

I think 600 points and under would be a good size for a skimirsh level. I'm not looking for 10 a side Mordheim, but instead 20-30 men including cavalry and a warmachine in the mix.

 namiel wrote:
Oh also units will have unit cards with all of there stats on them for the launch. all of that will be available online for FREE while new army books are coming out.

be naysayers but add this to the other rumors I posted.

 namiel wrote:
FREE

The time of nay saying is upon you.

HobbyBox wrote:
If this is where the rumored 6 factions come from, I think it will be:

1. Early Empire
2. Orcs and Goblins
3. Warriors of Chaos
4. Beastmen
5. Dwarfs
6. Undead

That covers the main factions that Sigmar fought against/with in his novels, with the small exception of Skaven, which popped up in a few places but were never a focus.

I can not imagine they are going to write out the skaven. Aren't they one of the most popular fantasy armies? And dropping Daemons of Chaos? And lizards? To keep Beastmen as a single army, when they have been so horrible for so long?

Nah

 namiel wrote:
Oh also units will have unit cards with all of there stats on them for the launch. all of that will be available online for FREE while new army books are coming out.

 namiel wrote:
all of that will be available online for FREE while new army books are coming out.

 namiel wrote:
online for FREE

 namiel wrote:
FREE

Now you've just crossed completely into fantasy land!

PhantomViper wrote:

Now you've just crossed completely into fantasy land!

I thought that blew up?

Earlier age skirmish makes a bit of sense, Mordhiem was after all set in the Empire's past.

I could see a fair self contained rule book with points costs for basic heroes/units plus weapons.

So basically 3rd edition.

 jonolikespie wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

Now you've just crossed completely into fantasy land!

I thought that blew up?

Precisely. That idea of stuff for free from GW is so out of touch with reality, no way it can even see the ground, let alone touch it.

If it is bouncing back to the past, I may end up spending a good amount of money. I thoroughly enjoy the Time of Legends books with Sigmar and it would be smart for them to mine that portion of the IP and actually put it into the game. If this is where the rumored 6 factions come from, I think it will be:

1. Early Empire
2. Orcs and Goblins
3. Warriors of Chaos
4. Beastmen
5. Dwarfs
6. Undead

Really enjoying Time of Legends novels

but would have thought it would be more like:

1.Tribes of Men - Empire and Bretonia
2, Dwarf Holds
3. Chaos - Daemons, Beastmen and Warriors
4. Orcs, Goblins and Ogres
5. Elven Kingdoms
6. Lands of the Dead - Khemri, Nagash and Vampires

Allies:

Chaos and Orcs,
Humans, Dwarves and Elves

Undead can ally either with either group (but not both in one army) as in the fluff.

Skaven and Lizardmen are the big missing parts here if restricted to 6 armies......

I don't think "Age of Sigmar" is going to be past Warhammer, it's got to be the world recreated by Sigmar/Asuryan.

 Ozymandias wrote:
I don't think "Age of Sigmar" is going to be past Warhammer, it's got to be the world recreated by Sigmar/Asuryan.

So that's our Bubblehammer then?

 Alpharius wrote:

 Ozymandias wrote:
I don't think "Age of Sigmar" is going to be past Warhammer, it's got to be the world recreated by Sigmar/Asuryan.

So that's our Bubblehammer then?

I think so. Araloth and friends will be "Coming out the pocket", so to speak, after Sigmar remakes things, or at least salvages the bubbles?

 Mr Morden wrote:

but would have thought it would be more like:

1.Tribes of Men - Empire and Bretonia
2, Dwarf Holds
3. Chaos - Daemons, Beastmen and Warriors
4. Orcs, Goblins and Ogres
5. Elven Kingdoms
6. Lands of the Dead - Khemri, Nagash and Vampires

Allies:

Chaos and Orcs,
Humans, Dwarves and Elves

Undead can ally either with either group (but not both in one army) as in the fluff.

Skaven and Lizardmen are the big missing parts here if restricted to 6 armies......

Dwarfs will likely be rolled in with the men, freeing up a slot for Skaven.

 Thunderfrog wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Ozymandias wrote:
I don't think "Age of Sigmar" is going to be past Warhammer, it's got to be the world recreated by Sigmar/Asuryan.

So that's our Bubblehammer then?

I think so. Araloth and friends will be "Coming out the pocket", so to speak, after Sigmar remakes things, or at least salvages the bubbles?

I seem to recall Lileath getting upset because Chaos found - and destroyed - her little pocket dimension, along with everyone in it (including Araloth and their unnamed daughter).

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

I seem to recall Lileath getting upset because Chaos found - and destroyed - her little pocket dimension, along with everyone in it (including Araloth and their unnamed daughter).

Lileath was upset because they found out about the pocket dimension, but she lost the ability to sense the dimension, so she figured it was destroyed. IIRC, it was Bel'akor that overheard that. Instead of him passing that information back to the powers that be, he probably instead is going to crash the party and will lead his own incursion of Chaos there.

I can forsee this being where the Age of Sigmar exists. And, just because "Haven' is where the story occurs, doesn't necessarily mean it is going to be "Bubblehammer". It could just be a new setting similar to the Old World.

Skaven will be in there one way or another. Either mixed in with chaos (which would be terrible IMO), or as their own faction. Good chance Dwarfs are matched together with the humans, whether they are the Warriors of Light or whatever they decide to call them.

I actually have my own guess as to what they are going to do, but I'll post that on the other forum...

What 'other forum' would that be, and why are we to be denied your insights here on 'this forum'?!?

Those rumors sound more like the 40k pancake edition rumors where someone just corrected what was "wrong" with the rules (i.e. too good to be true).

 Alpharius wrote:
What 'other forum' would that be, and why are we to be denied your insights here on 'this forum'?!?

I didn't quite type that correctly. I created a new thread in the WHFB General Discussion area, as I didn't want to take this thread too off topic. It is there now:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/648584.page

More round bases stuff from Warhammer World (via Warseer)



Some square bases, but loose formations

Wonderwolf wrote:
More round bases stuff from Warhammer World (via Warseer)

Spoiler:

Some square bases, but loose formations

Spoiler:

Hmmm not sold on the loose formations in those photos. Looks a bit of a mess. I think loose formations works well with armies such as Wood Elves and Beastmen. With Empire, High Elves, Dwarfs the ordered approach to warfare is best shown in closed ranks of troops

That big table is all about display; those troops are placed in a way that looks impressive and interesting. I wouldn't try to read anything too much into it.

The round based Nurgle stuff, that is the real question. Har de har. They look good, though; round bases always look best for display models.

Mostly the loose formations would suck for actual gaming in larger battles like shown in those images. Hour long movement phases get boring rather fast.

Though I figure it's probably just for display purposes rather than a sign of what 9th will bring.

Lizardmen Via twitter

I'm inclined to agree that in both of these cases it's all about display purposes. People have been putting WHFB models on round bases for Golden Daemon for years.

But if this is for display only, why are the Skinks on square bases?

Wonderwolf wrote:
Lizardmen Via twitter

Spoiler:

Ok, those images concern me more than the loose formation square base ones shown previously.