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Warhams-77 wrote:
Where is Sad Panda mentioning a preorder date?

The image from earlier stated the pre-order date as July 4, release July 11.

HobbyBox wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Where is Sad Panda mentioning a preorder date?

The image from earlier stated the pre-order date as July 4, release July 11.

Which is fact unless it is a REALLY good fake.

 pretre wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Where is Sad Panda mentioning a preorder date? Edit: Okay it was related to the name, I see

He isn't. That guy is mixing up the leaked picture and Sad Panda,

Leaked picture is for release of Age of Sigmar. Sad Panda said that Age of Sigmar replaces WHFB and is the new version of Warhammer. The two seem to be directly related. Hence why I'm not buying what Sad Panda is saying.

If I'm missing something, let me know.

HobbyBox wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Where is Sad Panda mentioning a preorder date? Edit: Okay it was related to the name, I see

He isn't. That guy is mixing up the leaked picture and Sad Panda,

Leaked picture is for release of Age of Sigmar. Sad Panda said that Age of Sigmar replaces WHFB and is the new version of Warhammer. The two seem to be directly related. Hence why I'm not buying what Sad Panda is saying.

If I'm missing something, let me know.

I get it; I just think if they weren't going to release WHFB on July 4th, they also wouldn't release anything else. The same logic applies. The fact is that they are releasing something on 7/4, so it could very well be WHFB.

 pretre wrote:

HobbyBox wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Where is Sad Panda mentioning a preorder date?

The image from earlier stated the pre-order date as July 4, release July 11.

Which is fact unless it is a REALLY good fake.

Have seen a store owner in the US post on Twitter a pamphlet in English. Design is the same, only in English. Either it is a well coordinated grouping of fakes, or this is marketing GW is sending out to retailers. I'll agree with the latter.


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 pretre wrote:

I get it; I just think if they weren't going to release WHFB on July 4th, they also wouldn't release anything else. The same logic applies. The fact is that they are releasing something on 7/4, so it could very well be WHFB.

Could be. GW always makes a huge deal about Red Letter days and that store owners must be there around these huge releases. So, makes me think that they wouldn't have a giant release on a U.S. Holiday.

Granted, I may be trying to give GW too much credit, but I just wouldn't see them doing that to their stores, as it will impact their employees from being able to capitalize on sales. If they have pre-orders go up online on a holiday and the stores aren't open, all of the "eager hobbyists" that GW prides themselves on building a relationship with will pre-order their stuff on the webstore and not pre-ordering in store. Which then means the GW store managers don't get credit for the sale.

It just leads me to think this is as one of the rumors said and some sort of board game that helps to bridge the gap somehow into 9th Ed.

Why wouldn't GW expect their US employees go into work on a holiday?

They certainly don't care about them to any great extent

(and the whole thing was probably planned back when Fridays were the release day so preview on the 3rd , release on the 10th and I wouldn't put it past them not to have realised the significance the change to the Saturday releases would cause over there)

Here are the images pulled from Twitter in English

Bubblehammer confirmed? Oh my.

Panda knows things. He is not predicting or posting rumors. Just have faith in his posts. Makes life a lot easier.

Edit: Got the date wrong, sorry

Nice pics

 pretre wrote:
Bubblehammer confirmed? Oh my.

Seems like it! All exploded into little bubbles.

This is rumored to be from the next issue of White Dwarf - on the last pages

Also looks like a pseudo-confirmation for Sad Panda. Sucks to be all those other mongers.

I'm kinda of getting excited about whats coming, in a way the wfb had become a bit stale to me and I'd like to see where they take it. I know it's not everybodys point of view but it will be cool to see an evolution of the setting and armies.

Is it just me, or is that hinting at what we might see if the new factions?

Spiel about Chaos: Chaos, obviously
Children of the Old Ones: lizards
Who Else Escaped: the Elves in their pocket dimension
Can dead things die: undead
Who is left: Sigmar/men
What does he cling to: new Order-based faction.

Might just be reading too far into it, but is it just coincidence that there are six distinct paragraphs/descriptions and all the rumours say 6 factions?

 pretre wrote:
Bubblehammer confirmed? Oh my.

Bubbles aren't necessarily the same thing as "realities".

Just sayin' here.


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 Paradigm wrote:
Is it just me, or is that hinting at what we might see if the new factions?

Spiel about Chaos: Chaos, obviously
Children of the Old Ones: lizards
Who Else Escaped: the Elves in their pocket dimension
Can dead things die: undead
Who is left: Sigmar/men
What does he cling to: new Order-based faction.

Might just be reading too far into it, but is it just coincidence that there are six distinct paragraphs/descriptions and all the rumours say 6 factions?

"All the rumors" keep contradicting themselves, so I wouldn't put much stock into it.

First it's "there will only be six armies!", then "six factions!" then back to "six armies!" and so on.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Bubblehammer confirmed? Oh my.

Bubbles aren't necessarily the same thing as "realities".

Just sayin' here.

Fair enough. I was being a bit silly and using the short hand.

So sigmars alive but trapped in the void...

Pre-order on July 4 seems mind-blowingly stupid but ah well, they haven't really been interested in selling fantasy for a while now or they would have done more to keep people interested between blowing up the world and what's next.

"Dad, dad, I need to go to the warhammer store and buy some stuff."
"Shut up and get in the boat."

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Commissar-Danno wrote:
One way we are trying to avoid people jumping ship to straight up KOW in our gaming group, in regards to the new edition of 9th edition, is running a special tournament where the palyers put up a percentage for paying for the rule book, with the rule book going to the winner. That way our group can at least get the book and look through it and learn over the next few months before we decide if we should invest in the starter sets. Most of group has agreed to participate in the tournament and with some excitement generated for it.

I'm not sure I get this.
Why stop people moving to a game they may enjoy more, is cheaper and allows them to use (and keep buying and using) their beloved GW armies/figures.
If they try KOW and don't enjoy it, then fair enough, pull them back to the latest version of Warhammer.
The people I game with (and myself) have moved our fantasy armies to KOW. I still buy (now and again) GW figures to add to my KOW armies as they fit what I already have and in many cases I prefer them to Mantic stuff. I just don't understand why you'd purposefully stop people trying out other games.

Exactly - Hell, let 'em jump ship, and jump with 'em!

The rules for KoW are free - there is no invested risk.

I sure as heck don't want to be in the first wave of folks trying 9th edition Warhammer - wait for the reviews to come out, at the least.

The Auld Grump - To continue the ship analogy - the good ship Warhammer is listing to port and headed toward the reefs....

Honestly, anyone doing everything they can to prevent others from trying new games they might like are a group of a-holes. Doesn't matter what the game is. You don't dictate how others have fun. If you try to, you're a bad person. Pretty simple, really.


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Also, Pretre, I emailed you two days ago about the 11th being release day. Feel free to share my email and add me to the rumor tracker.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Also, Pretre, I emailed you two days ago about the 11th being release day. Feel free to share my email and add me to the rumor tracker.

Keeping source safe again, but release date for 9th is July 11th. Stores are starting to get a heads up. I'll post properly in the thread in a week. If you want to add me to the board, I posted that there would be a big window (for GW) for the release of 9th. I'd say 5 weeks counts.

I'll talk about it in the Tracker thread. I'm unsure about tracking rumors that aren't public.

HobbyBox wrote:

 pretre wrote:


Sad Panda - Total rumors: (18 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Perfect records are made to be broken

TBH, I doubt GW would release a new version of the game and set it up to pre-orders when all of it's hobby stores in the U.S. will be closed for a national holiday. For a company that is all about maximizing the amount of money they can make, that bit does not make any sense. Hence my skepticism.

Yeah, well, you shared info from Steve The Warboss while doubting Panda, so forgive me if I don't put great faith in your judgment!

 Azreal13 wrote:

HobbyBox wrote:

 pretre wrote:


Sad Panda - Total rumors: (18 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Perfect records are made to be broken

TBH, I doubt GW would release a new version of the game and set it up to pre-orders when all of it's hobby stores in the U.S. will be closed for a national holiday. For a company that is all about maximizing the amount of money they can make, that bit does not make any sense. Hence my skepticism.

Yeah, well, you shared info from Steve The Warboss while doubting Panda, so forgive me if I don't put great faith in your judgment!

Not sure if serious...

edit: Nevermind me, I'm dumb.

The planes/realities/dimensions fluff was there right from the beginning when they invented the Warhammer World actually. It was just Planet Earth but in a different dimension (with all the similiarities like Tilea/Italy, Estalia/Espania, The Empire/The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation etc but under influence of the Old Ones, Chaos etc.). It was like that of course to sell models from their then current miniature ranges which included medieval knights amongst ninjas and orcs.

From the 2nd Edition Battle Bestiary book - which introduced the WFB fluff in 1984

*Edited and re-uploaded the image (Page 7 from Bestiary)*




And page 10 - the first part of the timeline

The text is blank or faded in those.

 pretre wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

HobbyBox wrote:

 pretre wrote:


Sad Panda - Total rumors: (18 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Perfect records are made to be broken

TBH, I doubt GW would release a new version of the game and set it up to pre-orders when all of it's hobby stores in the U.S. will be closed for a national holiday. For a company that is all about maximizing the amount of money they can make, that bit does not make any sense. Hence my skepticism.

Yeah, well, you shared info from Steve The Warboss while doubting Panda, so forgive me if I don't put great faith in your judgment!

Not sure if serious...

I was referring to the perfect records bit, probably should've edited for clarity.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Commissar-Danno wrote:
One way we are trying to avoid people jumping ship to straight up KOW in our gaming group, in regards to the new edition of 9th edition, is running a special tournament where the palyers put up a percentage for paying for the rule book, with the rule book going to the winner. That way our group can at least get the book and look through it and learn over the next few months before we decide if we should invest in the starter sets. Most of group has agreed to participate in the tournament and with some excitement generated for it.

I'm not sure I get this.
Why stop people moving to a game they may enjoy more, is cheaper and allows them to use (and keep buying and using) their beloved GW armies/figures.
If they try KOW and don't enjoy it, then fair enough, pull them back to the latest version of Warhammer.
The people I game with (and myself) have moved our fantasy armies to KOW. I still buy (now and again) GW figures to add to my KOW armies as they fit what I already have and in many cases I prefer them to Mantic stuff. I just don't understand why you'd purposefully stop people trying out other games.

Exactly - Hell, let 'em jump ship, and jump with 'em!

The rules for KoW are free - there is no invested risk.

I sure as heck don't want to be in the first wave of folks trying 9th edition Warhammer - wait for the reviews to come out, at the least.

The Auld Grump - To continue the ship analogy - the good ship Warhammer is listing to port and headed toward the reefs....

Honestly, anyone doing everything they can to prevent others from trying new games they might like are a group of a-holes. Doesn't matter what the game is. You don't dictate how others have fun. If you try to, you're a bad person. Pretty simple, really.


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Also, Pretre, I emailed you two days ago about the 11th being release day. Feel free to share my email and add me to the rumor tracker.

Which is why I mentioned KoW having no invested risk - if the round base rumor proves true then it will be easier for them to try KoW than the new Warhammer.

Telling people to wait for the reviews is not the same as telling people not to bother. It is telling people to hold off, and see what is actually coming out, rather than accepting any and all rumors as true. Then to find a reviewer that more or less shares their preferences, and seeing what that reviewer thinks. (I do the same thing with movies - and generally avoid the first night of any release.)

While I will be skipping the new edition (barring truly stellar reviews) it has at least as much to not liking the way GW does business as it does with any rumors of the game.

The Auld Grump - though given the most recent editions of WH and WH40K... my hopes for a truly stellar game are dim at best....

 Azreal13 wrote:

I was referring to the perfect records bit, probably should've edited for clarity.

For some reason, I thought you were responding to me. My inherent egotism is leaking out again. My bad.

Warhams-77 wrote:
The planes/realities/dimensions fluff was there right from the beginning when they invented the Warhammer World actually. It was just Planet Earth but in a different dimension (with all the similiarities like Tilea/Italy, Estalia/Espania, The Empire/The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation etc but under influence of the Old Ones, Chaos etc.). It was like that of course to sell models from their then current miniature ranges which included medieval knights amongst ninjas and orcs.

From the 2nd Edition Battle Bestiary book - which introduced the WFB fluff in 1984

*Edit Link not loading*

I don't think that's quite correct... IIRC (and I'll admit it's been a while since I dug through the fluff), the Warhammer world wasn't in a different dimension, it explcitly *was* in the same dimention/universe as our own Earth. The justification of why the Warhammer World looked "like" Earth was that the Slann modified planets to suit their needs and the Slann modified-worlds looked similar to each other as that was supposed to be how they stabilized the weather and temperatures through geoengineering. The expectation was that there were many worlds that would look generally the same because of the Slann's efforts.

Valete,

JohnS

Sounds like 'confirmation' of Bubblehammer in that picture.

End Times for Warhammer indeed.

 pretre wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Also, Pretre, I emailed you two days ago about the 11th being release day. Feel free to share my email and add me to the rumor tracker.

Keeping source safe again, but release date for 9th is July 11th. Stores are starting to get a heads up. I'll post properly in the thread in a week. If you want to add me to the board, I posted that there would be a big window (for GW) for the release of 9th. I'd say 5 weeks counts.

I'll talk about it in the Tracker thread. I'm unsure about tracking rumors that aren't public.

Giving you the info only at first was twofold: keeping source safe and making sure info was reliable. Now that I know what the source gets is legit, expect public info whenever I get it!