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Optimism is the best path - never fear!

 Alpharius wrote:
Optimism is the best path - never fear!

Is this official DakkaDakka forum policy?

I think that's being a little... optimistic, NewBlood

As I was already going to rebase a lot of my WoC to rounds for use as Daemons/Spawn etc for 40k. So I am cautiously optimistic I might enjoy the duality of whatever this becomes.

It would be nice if we got some videos going over the things they've changed/added like we did for 7th 40k.

 statu wrote:
I'm excited for the next edition, because it's a good chance for me to finally get into fantasy properly. Even if they screw the game and everyone playing sticks with 8th, I know at least 5 other guys at my local store that are all planning on starting in the next edition, or have recently started to prepare for the next edition.

What if ...

9E is the beginning of a glorious revolution for Warhammer? Veterans alienated by the changes wrought to the game - the new edition does in fact turn out to be a smaller scale, largely-skirmish game with models based on round bases, sporting simplified rules, fewer factions and more objective-based gameplay - continue to play 8E, however 9E succeeds in pulling over significant numbers of 40k players, as well as numerous prior Fantasy adherents left behind by the changes after 6E and a startling number of young gamers fresh to the hobby. Some 8E players dabble in 9E but find its limited scale and lack of depth unrewarding; sharing table space with the 'Oldhammerers', some 9E players begin to become interested in expanding their small skirmishes into something grander with greater detail. Someone - her name lost to the wilds of the Internet - begins combining the rules of 8E and 9E, creating an unofficial '10E' fully capable of using the mini-armybooks pumped out by GW Digital month after month. This edition is run through the Indy GT circuit of the US with remarkable success, packing event after event with both 8E and 9E players, heretofore having kept to their own realms. Grudgingly, GW releases Warhammer: the Game of Fantasy Battles 10E. No one is surprised by the new edition's rules - they are simply the most up to date version of the 10E rules available online - however the rulebook sells out as fast as GW can print them. Gamers are, after all, suckers for a nice rule book, even this far in the near future.

Meanwhile, rumors begin circulating of a tenth edition of 40k, along with potentially traumatizing photos of wraithknights and termagants on square bases ...

- Salvage

 Boss Salvage wrote:


Meanwhile, rumors begin circulating of a tenth edition of 40k, along with potentially traumatizing photos of wraithknights and termagants on square bases ...

"Peter, we've talked about this, there has to be 8th and 9th editions of 40k first."

"Oh, no, Lois. That's the beauty of 10th ed. 40k. It's so intense it jumps right over 40k 8th and 9th edition!"

"But that's..."

"I have spoken!"

 Boss Salvage wrote:

Meanwhile, rumors begin circulating of a tenth edition of 40k, along with potentially traumatizing photos of wraithknights and termagants on square bases ...
- Salvage

Surely, you speak of madness.

 Charles Rampant wrote:
Navarro, Don't Like: See, you have both just explained why you are not excited; what you have not done is actually address my question, which is why you are so amazed that he is excited. Does his excitement offend you in some way, to prompt such marvel?

Sigh.
Actually just the opposite, I have clearly addressed your judgmental remarks and in good faith, one last time, I will repeat that I cannot understand being very exited with something you know nothing about. Not understanding someone behavior is very different from being offended by it, so could you drop the drama act. Thanks.

 mikhaila wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
I just find it so odd that you can be excited about something you know literally nothing about.

Because.....HOPE!

We all remember a day when the sun shone down on our miniatures and we played happy games with friends and eagerly awaited for the next trip to the game store. We were happy. And while we grumbled some, GW was our favorite.

Now we hunker down in our bunkers while GW lobs shells and mustard gas at us, and anything, anything at all, that gives us a bit of hope causes excitement. Hope that the Evil Kirby is dead and the rest of those locked in the Citadel of Idiot Marketing will be freed. And we'll be able to sneak into a GW store and maybe reclaim....just for an instant....that feeling we had on those sunny days.


Hope leads to dispair, dispair leads to insanity, insanity leads to chaos and demons pouring out of your eyeballs. DON'T HOPE!!

Let Cynicism be your armor, disgruntlement be your shield. Grind hope under your iron boot.

I'm super stoked about it...the internet forums are filled with people who grumble and complain about everything that games workshop does.
Obviously some things gw does is not so great but sometimes they do great thing (a la end times) but I'm excited and hope it will be good.

I would like more solid ideas as to what is going on but who knows what will come

 chiefbigredman wrote:


I'm super stoked about it...the internet forums are filled with people who grumble and complain about everything that games workshop does.
Obviously some things gw does is not so great but sometimes they do great thing (a la end times) but I'm excited and hope it will be good.

I would like more solid ideas as to what is going on but who knows what will come

Obviously people at GW hq know what is coming but it doesn't actually get communicated to customers any earlier than a week before it's released.

It's been repeatedly stated that every other company previews and builds hype for future products.

age of sigmar at sounds interesting as a title. That's about all I can say from what I know about it!

More stoked about the BA summer campaign that's been announced. Was planning on buying that recent army box in the next fews weeks and it ties right in.

 chiefbigredman wrote:

 mikhaila wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
I just find it so odd that you can be excited about something you know literally nothing about.

Because.....HOPE!

We all remember a day when the sun shone down on our miniatures and we played happy games with friends and eagerly awaited for the next trip to the game store. We were happy. And while we grumbled some, GW was our favorite.

Now we hunker down in our bunkers while GW lobs shells and mustard gas at us, and anything, anything at all, that gives us a bit of hope causes excitement. Hope that the Evil Kirby is dead and the rest of those locked in the Citadel of Idiot Marketing will be freed. And we'll be able to sneak into a GW store and maybe reclaim....just for an instant....that feeling we had on those sunny days.


Hope leads to dispair, dispair leads to insanity, insanity leads to chaos and demons pouring out of your eyeballs. DON'T HOPE!!

Let Cynicism be your armor, disgruntlement be your shield. Grind hope under your iron boot.

I'm super stoked about it...the internet forums are filled with people who grumble and complain about everything that games workshop does.
Obviously some things gw does is not so great but sometimes they do great thing (a la end times) but I'm excited and hope it will be good.

I would like more solid ideas as to what is going on but who knows what will come

The hobbyist in me is super excited about a new game, but cautious because of past disappointments.

The retailer portion of my brain knows that enthusiasm with no information leads to large orders of stuff that sit and rot on shelves and I don't get a paycheck.

I don't let the Hobbyist part of my brain set final numbers on orders, always a bad idea.

Sounds like Ravening Hordes 2.0 with a more robust set of quickstart rules (in the form of a low-level skirmish game) in the starter set, named "Age of Sigmar."

Either way I'm intrigued. Nervous, as I am before any big change, but by and large intrigued and excited. 8th edition is getting a bit stale and I'm looking forward to something new. Hopefully it will be good, but there are always some bumps in a new edition.

Invalidating all the old armybooks is a good call though. Limping into an edition with strange FAQs on a book written for the previous edition has always been kind of obnoxious. Half of your stuff plain doesn't work, there are all sorts of strange interactions, things aren't properly costed. Very irritating. Provided these aren't too anemic, I think it will be an interesting dynamic to start us off.



Curious how much of the resin/metal figures will survive into the new edition, though. Guessing much of it will be culled. Good bye varghulfs, black coaches, fellbats, and the entire TK rare section...

Ravening hordes 2.0 that allowed for all models currently in production to be used (ET models folded into their respective army sections would be the right idea) would be amaze-balls. I have hope GW will do that. We'll see what we get. If all else fails, I'll use the cheap chaos army I'm accumulating ($40 for 10 metal 6th Ed chaos Knights!!) in KoW.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Ravening hordes 2.0 that allowed for all models currently in production to be used (ET models folded into their respective army sections would be the right idea) would be amaze-balls. I have hope GW will do that. We'll see what we get. If all else fails, I'll use the cheap chaos army I'm accumulating ($40 for 10 metal 6th Ed chaos Knights!!) in KoW.

My thought process as well with my Elves I've been accumulating and my Dwarves

 agnosto wrote:

 chiefbigredman wrote:


I'm super stoked about it...the internet forums are filled with people who grumble and complain about everything that games workshop does.
Obviously some things gw does is not so great but sometimes they do great thing (a la end times) but I'm excited and hope it will be good.

I would like more solid ideas as to what is going on but who knows what will come

Obviously people at GW hq know what is coming but it doesn't actually get communicated to customers any earlier than a week before it's released.

It's been repeatedly stated that every other company previews and builds hype for future products.

Weeeelll they kind of inadvertently create a hype about it....especially through these rumours that we all hear because then everyone is saying "age of sigmar? What's that?" "Omg new stuff!" "What's it going to be?" "I'm slowly dying inside trying to figure out what it is!"

I would like a better preview before preorders but still it can be exciting...
This is a little overdue though because we have been hearing rumours of a new edition for way longer than probably any other rumour so people are just getting either bored or frustrated about the lack of information

 monders wrote:
If that is a PS job, it's fantastic work. More likely some rogue with steady hand and a very sharp blade!

I can't see where they've cut, but I tend to hack at my blister packs with heavy duty scissors so finesse isn't one of my attributes!

You can just slip it in through the retail hook hole up top...

 Guildsman wrote:
Your observation is probably right.

Well, you live in the U.S., I live in France, so who knows? Maybe the situation is different around here.

 Alpharius wrote:
Optimism is the best path - never fear!

Pessimism is the best path. The only surprises we have are good surprises!

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Boss Salvage wrote:

Meanwhile, rumors begin circulating of a tenth edition of 40k, along with potentially traumatizing photos of wraithknights and termagants on square bases ...
- Salvage

Surely, you speak of madness.

To be honest, the square bases work pretty well for tanks looking at that pic

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Charles Rampant wrote:
Navarro, Don't Like: See, you have both just explained why you are not excited; what you have not done is actually address my question, which is why you are so amazed that he is excited. Does his excitement offend you in some way, to prompt such marvel?

Sigh.
Actually just the opposite, I have clearly addressed your judgmental remarks and in good faith, one last time, I will repeat that I cannot understand being very exited with something you know nothing about. Not understanding someone behavior is very different from being offended by it, so could you drop the drama act. Thanks.

Actually, sorry about that, I meant to refer to someone else but typed your name instead. You already replied and made sense doing so. Yay, typing with fat fingers?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Guildsman wrote:
Your observation is probably right.

Well, you live in the U.S., I live in France, so who knows? Maybe the situation is different around here.

 Alpharius wrote:
Optimism is the best path - never fear!

Pessimism is the best path. The only surprises we have are good surprises!

Though optimists digging in a pile of manure, saying 'There must be a pony in here somewhere....' does tend to make us smile too....

The Auld Grump

Optimism is the first step on the road to disappointment.
Pessimism is the first step on the road to a pleasant surprise.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Optimism is the first step on the road to disappointment.
Pessimism is the first step on the road to a pleasant surprise.

An optimist hopes we live in the pest possible world.
A pessimist KNOWS we do.

Back on topic, I'm looking forward to this and Ant-Man as my July surprises.
Hoping neither sucks

Well my view is, I have the money ready and in general I'm up for a update to the fantasy setting, especially if its in any way Skirmish based.. so either GW gets my money on the 4th with a Skirmish based release or they don't.. its down to them now, entirely down to what actually shows up.

Although I still scratch my head on the fact they seem so obsessed with hiding all of this stuff.. can you imagine FFG acting like they do.

I do love the suggestions of a better tomorrow though.. one can only dream eh?

I wouldn't say I'm excited about this Age of Sigmar thingy, I'm just curious. I've never played Warhammer Fantasy (too expensive and too many models required). GW burnt all its bridges with me (White Dwarf and 40K) bar one - LOTR. And even then I get most of my stuff via Ebay and Element Games, not direct from GW, and my interest in the SBG is sustained only by the enthusiastic if small community (Great British Hobbit League).

But it'll be entertaining to watch GW try to build a new bridge with me. Skirmish games are more my thing, and I always like to at least look at pictures of pretty models on the internet, so I'm curious. But I know even if this does turn out to be a Skirmish game, it'll somehow turn out to be just as expensive as the current mass battle Warhammer Fantasy.

I remain optimistic here - if it is something good?

Great - I'm in!

If not - more money to spend on Infinity, SoTR, Frostgrave, etc.

Indeed. July shall be the month of spending - but whether that is Undead, Naffatun, or something new (or even just MOAR Haqqislam) remains to be seen.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Ravening hordes 2.0 that allowed for all models currently in production to be used (ET models folded into their respective army sections would be the right idea) would be amaze-balls. I have hope GW will do that. We'll see what we get. If all else fails, I'll use the cheap chaos army I'm accumulating ($40 for 10 metal 6th Ed chaos Knights!!) in KoW.

Yes! And Dogs of War! Plus Chaos Dorfs!


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 Alpharius wrote:
I remain optimistic here - if it is something good?.

It can't get any worse, can it?

Er, of course it can?

Warhammer could be come a faction in 40k where all the current races can be used in a mega unbound thing.