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 SilverDevilfish wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
What's the problem with Nigmos?

Type Nigmo into Urban Dictionary and you'll see what the problem is.

Hint: There's a reason I'm not linking it.

I hope my work doesn't check website searches

Oh GW. Your trying to get sued out of business before you drive yourself out of business.

 Pacific wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
What's the problem with Nigmos?

Type Nigmo into Urban Dictionary and you'll see what the problem is.

Hint: There's a reason I'm not linking it.

oh my.....

.. that moves it towards 'fake' on the false/true swingometer I think !

Or it could be SO Fake that it must be true

I think darnok calling out against these rumors really put them on false end of spectrum to me. The nigmos thing just feels a bit like trolling on top of rumor cake.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Ah, so there's nothing actually wrong with Nigmos. Thanks for clearing that up.

No, it's one of those words that it's only ok to use if you are one.

 agnosto wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Ah, so there's nothing actually wrong with Nigmos. Thanks for clearing that up.

No, it's one of those words that it's only ok to use if you are one.

No, it's a moronic slang word no one in their right mind should care about.

I agree with HMV, you can type pretty much any absurdity in urban dictionary and get some profane term. It's basically their bread and butter (I wonder if that expression has a double meaning...)

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 agnosto wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Ah, so there's nothing actually wrong with Nigmos. Thanks for clearing that up.

No, it's one of those words that it's only ok to use if you are one.

No, it's a moronic slang word no one in their right mind should care about.

The word which we aren't even typing is also a slang term. Are you suggesting no one in their right mind should care about that?

Fact remains that even if it is slang term, having your product have that connection to racism is moronic and a sure sign of incompetence. Type in nigmo into google and urban dictionary is the first result. That will not be good advertising for GW when people forget to put the 's' on the end. Type nigmos and urban dictionary is the 7th result, after a load of results for The Sims. So either GW has to be bigger than The Sims (not likely) or it has to overcome potentially racist undertones.

 Accolade wrote:
It's basically their bread and butter (I wonder if that expression has a double meaning...)

Yes. They almost didn't screw it up, then there was one last result which was terrible.

And that's why that rumor block was obviously a troll. I'm sure he thought naming orcs or whichever it was 'nigmos' was hilarious.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
The word which we aren't even typing is also a slang term. Are you suggesting no one in their right mind should care about that?

[see forum posting rules] does not fit the definition of a slang term, given it's widespread use across multiple social class vocabularies during a significant period of time and the resulting social connotations today.

Nigmo is a slang word. Its use is limited to a very narrow sample of the population given multiple natively English speaking posters here had no idea it's supposed to have a derogatory meaning. To bend to this kind of idiocy is to invite the destruction of language because "will someone think of the children" syndrome. Next thing we know a homosexual black male you don't know will be described as an engimo, then a black lesbian will become an enigma. And then what?

As for the Google hits, the fifth and eight result show people with that name. Really, it's a non issue.

Edit: Are you fething me? Let's see if this works for other words like that? Soap? Nope. Polnische Schweine? Nope. Guess those are not bad words no one should ever read, eh?

@HMV - Dude, you're dropping N-bombs? Uncool.

Definition of slang:

"A type of language consisting of words and phrases that are regarded as very informal, are more common in speech than writing, and are typically restricted to a particular context or group of people."

In what way does the N-word not fit in that definition? It's certainly not formal english.

 DO IT TO IT wrote:
And that's why that rumor block was obviously a troll. I'm sure he thought naming orcs or whichever it was 'nigmos' was hilarious.

Perhaps "nigmos" is just a typo, translation problem or simply misremembered.

Hastings over on warseer confirmed some details of that large rumor block:

75hastings69 on warseer wrote:Yep...... I think this guy is actually NOT talking entirely about the AoS box/set but in some instances the Rules AFTERWARDS...


....... consists of three books (what I have heard too)


- full fledged rule system; no skirmish game - meaning not restricted to low miniature count: (as I understand it AoS WILL be skirmish level, the later rules bring about massed battle rules)

- there are unit cards for every (as far as I can see) old unit. I was told there would be separate rules to allow fielding of old units, however I thought these were included in the kits

Setting
game is set on world Regalia that is connected with other young realms through portals of the old ones. Young realms are realms that were populated by the old creators and were guided on similar historical paths. Exactly what I was told

...... Fast travel is possible through a number of ..... circles that allows mages to open portal from one to another ..... There were a long period of peace curated by the Exoatl (Old Ones) ...... Exactly what I was told

The Skaven arrived on their own on Regalia and are basically the same. Exactly what I was told

The Soul Mill is a huge machinery ...... to feed on the power of dead spirits..... Exactly what I was told

- Lizardmen are not gone. There is a race called Servants of the Exoatl - I was not aware of the "servants of" part but the name Exoatl was mentioned to me.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
@HMV - Dude, you're dropping N-bombs? Uncool.

Why? It's just a word. Learn what it means and why it means what it means, instead of hiding from it like a child.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Definition of slang:

"A type of language consisting of words and phrases that are regarded as very informal, are more common in speech than writing, and are typically restricted to a particular context or group of people."

In what way does the N-word not fit in that definition? It's certainly not formal english.

It was part of formal English for centuries, in use across multiple social groups. And now it's not. It's not a slang term. Not that it matters, since we're talking about nigmo and nigmos here.

I am well aware of that word, and its history. I refuse to use it here out of respect for others. I don't see such refusal as childish, but rather mature.

It's one thing to throw a potentially sensitive word without a good reason, because you can. It's another to use it in a formal discussion on the nature of language and its implications on a commercial product. And I didn't mean to imply you're acting like a child. Sorry about that.

Edit: So it looks like Hastings is straight up confirming large sections of the rumour. I trust the man.

If hastings is confirming that abortion they call fluff, then I guess it's now down to the rules, the fluff for 30/40k and fantasy are all that has kept me playing and if the fluff is as bad as that looks, I'm out, the rules may mitigate it a little as I can just use more models and stick to the proper fantasy world.

But GW's track record with rules leads me to believe that fantasy is dead, rip 20+ years of my hobby if that's the case.

 Formosa wrote:
But GW's track record with rules leads me to believe that fantasy is dead, rip 20+ years of my hobby if that's the case.

I'd tell you no is taking your WFB away from you, and everything is going to be okay, but even I don't believe that.

That's enough on this particular "slang" tangent, let's get back to the topic of the thread (Warhammer fantasy's next ruleset / edition). Thanks

Hehehe, urban dictionary... OK then

Hastings confirming the weird fluff is a pretty huge deal. I too thought those rumours sounded pretty fictionalized. Almost any change is a good thing as far as I'm concerned with pretty much all GW's messy rulesets but this business of a new magic place that serves as the magic hub of a magic multiverse all sounds a bit... Blizzard for my tastes.

Did Hastings make a follow up post referring specifically to the fluff? If so, could someone quote it over? Only fair since the rumour originated in this thread

Sounds like hastings confirmed some of the Warhammer SG-1 info posted.

I find it funny that GW, in an apparent attempt at making their IP ironclad, is looking to rip off of Magic: the Gathering.

Next they'll sue Hasbro!! "We thought of it first you guys, we just had to wait to implement it. You were totally stealing our ideas!!"

Magic the Gathering is pretty much singlehandedly keeping, some, gaming shops open across the US.

Stealing some of that audience would be a major win. Those people drop $300-$500+ every few months on the latest set and they are used to anything 2 years or older being obsolete. GW would love those people.

 adamsouza wrote:
Magic the Gathering is pretty much singlehandedly keeping, some, gaming shops open across the US.

Stealing some of that audience would be a major win. Those people drop $300-$500+ every few months on the latest set and they are used to anything 2 years or older being obsolete. GW would love those people.

They would love those people if they could gain their patronage without having to put in the effort to make solid, balanced rules free of ambiguous language as well as not having to support with both cash money and product the myriad of competitive play opportunities. Basically, they'd love to have everything that makes MTG lucrative without putting in any of the work that got it there.

I got a look at the rule book this weekend and can confirm many of the rumors floating around.

As expected End Times is IN continuity, sorry to all the folks who expected a bit reset button at the end.

The Olde Worlde is gone and it ain't coming back.

that bieng said, GW is now about to scrap its entire product line so yes, the game is backwards compatible with all extant army books and models!

Bases can be round or square.

The big change is in deployment, movement and terrain.

IGOUGO is gone, now all movement is simultanious, with players trying to move as many models or units as they can, it's a lot like speed chess and really speeds up the game.

In 9th edition battles are fought over the Formless Void which is all the remains of the Warhammer world. You still use terrain such as buildings, woods and cemetaries, but they're like floating islands in the Formless Void and in fact move d6" a turn.

Models are deployed randomly using scatter dice.

At the start of each turn they drift 2d6" inches. If they end in contact with a friendly model they may link arms and now move as one unit for the rest of the game (they can disengage at the start of any movement phase).

If they bump into an enemy model they immediatly fight until one or the other is dead.

Flying models are very interesting as they can fight against the swirling winds of the Formless Void. They can reroll direction and, once direction is finalized, may choose to roll 1, 2, 3 or 4d6 for move. They're really going to dominate.

After the movement phase comes the shooting phase.

Since all models are floating in the formless void (BTW the rule book has a picture of the new Formless Void Realms of Battle board, it is amazing!) all shooting attacks have unlimited range but the shooting model then moves d6 inches in the opposite direction (2d6 for firearms, 3d6 for cannon).

Models that fall off the edge of the table are automatically destroyed by the all consuming maw of the maelstrum.

Magic, surprisingly, is largely unchanged from End Times save for the addition of the Lore of the Formless Void which can really allow a player to dominate the movement phase with spells that move everyone d6" to the left or cause the table edge to move inwards d6".

Oh I forgot to mention that the old 4'x6' table is GONE GONE GONE, legal tables are now round with a radius equal to the the point value of the game/2 in milimeters. So a 1000 point game is played on a 1m in diameter round table.

Variously sized round folding tables will be available online and in GW stores (sorry no FLGS or indies).

As promised we have a game that allows all prior armies to play while also moving the storyline forward.

I didn't think they could pull it off but they did!

Kudos GW, kudos!

I don't know if I'm going to laugh until I cry, or die just a little inside, when this gets reposted somewhere else as news

Still sounds like it forges a better narrative and balance than 7th edition 40k...

Thanks, KK. With all this 9E nonsense, I am so nostalgic, I am now thinking to eBay a 7E hardback rulebook for posterity.