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As previously noted, that's quite enough on the "urban dictionary" tangent line of discussion... thanks.

Wonderwolf wrote:
4. Sad Panda says its bull

Here's what Sad Panda actually said:

Sad Panda wrote:
Those rumours sound cool. Perhaps better than the real thing.

But the good guys of the starter really are Fantasy Space Marines for all intents. And nothing else. Even a bit broader than Space Marines, even a bit chubby looking. Models might make reasonable Adeptus Custodes conversions even. And they are all male of course.

I think this analysis of it is quite possible:

Mutter wrote:

Mymearan wrote:


Sad Panda denies? So basically confirmed that huge wall of text is bs. Too bad, it sounded cool...

Not necessarily.
SinaLeibniz wrote: Age of Sigmar box content: Extrapolated from the pictures, they are the only new models.

Maybe he/she just made a mistake extrapolating from pics. Doesn't invalidate all the rest, though.

SinaLeibniz's post was extremely long, and Sad Panda refuted one small part of it, a part which SinaLeibniz specifically said he was extrapolating from pics. Hastings has confirmed some parts, too. To throw it all out seems off to me, but like most rumors it's unlikely to be 100% accurate, either.

Wonderwolf wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
The only thing I'd add to the Blood Bowl rumours, is there have been a number of suggestions that Blood Bowl was incoming, but was pulled from the schedule due to the Dread Fleet sales.

Which never was an explanation that worked. Hastings & co. started the Blood Bowl rumours in early/mid-2013, nearly two years after DreadFleet failed.

If they'd decided to scrap the game due to DreadFleet, they'd done it in 2011, maybe early 2012. Starting a rumour in 2013 and blaming DreadFleet when the rumour turns out wrong was just desperate obfuscation.

And TastyTaste, whatever else his qualities as a rumour-monger are (not so bad actually, checking the rumour-tracker), also said months before the predicted fall 2013 release for BloodBowl, that it never existed.

Yeah.. but no..

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/399920.page

edit - I have a feeling the rumours pre-dated that as well in a more 'I think its coming' from minor rumour folks.. but Harry/Hastings first brought them up themselves in 2011 around the time of Dreadfleets release.

Bubblehammer AND Fantasy Space Marines "confirmed"?!?

Oh boy...

Fantasy Spacemarines = Brotherhood of Zealous Knights

It's not like they are going to have bolguns and powerarmor. Although truth be told, I would play 40K Space Marines in the Fantasy setting if I could get away with it.

 adamsouza wrote:
Fantasy Spacemarines = Brotherhood of Zealous Knights

It's not like they are going to have bolguns and powerarmor. Although truth be told, I would play 40K Space Marines in the Fantasy setting if I could get away with it.

Of course not!

But they will have repeating crossbows called Bolt Throwers.

And enchanted plate armor with many powers.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT from Space Marines.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Fantasy Spacemarines = Brotherhood of Zealous Knights

It's not like they are going to have bolguns and powerarmor. Although truth be told, I would play 40K Space Marines in the Fantasy setting if I could get away with it.

Of course not!

But they will have repeating crossbows called Bolt Throwers.

And enchanted plate armor with many powers.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT from Space Marines.

Ugh, God. Because what WHFB needed was to just be a slightly more medieval version of 40k.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Fantasy Spacemarines = Brotherhood of Zealous Knights

It's not like they are going to have bolguns and powerarmor. Although truth be told, I would play 40K Space Marines in the Fantasy setting if I could get away with it.

Of course not!

But they will have repeating crossbows called Bolt Throwers.

And enchanted plate armor with many powers.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT from Space Marines.

And I am quite sure they will be unable to conceptualize fright!

Valete,

JohnS

 Accolade wrote:
Ugh, God. Because what WHFB needed was to just be a slightly more medieval version of 40k.

I anxiously await FW reintroducing their fantasy line with endless iterations of the same basic knight but with different plumes and pauldrons to indicate his specific order... and, of course, the obligatory cataphractii full plate Ogres and contemptor armored Giants each customized sequentially for every order as well.

Then Forgeworld can introduce a steam punk Adeptus Mechanicus equivalanet

 cygnnus wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Fantasy Spacemarines = Brotherhood of Zealous Knights

It's not like they are going to have bolguns and powerarmor. Although truth be told, I would play 40K Space Marines in the Fantasy setting if I could get away with it.

Of course not!

But they will have repeating crossbows called Bolt Throwers.

And enchanted plate armor with many powers.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT from Space Marines.

And I am quite sure they will be unable to conceptualize fright!

Valete,

JohnS

CONFIRMED FALSE RUMOR-They'll have blades on the end of flails called "Sword Chains"
And the greatest Order are the seagoing knights whose azure armor has given them the name Aquamarines.

 warboss wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
Ugh, God. Because what WHFB needed was to just be a slightly more medieval version of 40k.

I anxiously await FW reintroducing their fantasy line with endless iterations of the same basic knight but with different plumes and pauldrons to indicate his specific order... and, of course, the obligatory cataphractii full plate Ogres and contemptor armored Giants each customized sequentially for every order as well.

Spoiler:

We'd be lucky to even get that from ForgeWorld, they are really pre-occupied with the Horus Heresy stuff. No time or space for work on anything else, which is a shame. At first I was really excited about all the Horus Heresy stuff...but now its getting really, really old. I miss their amazing sculpts, like the Great Unclean One, Khorne Daemon Prince...way better than slight variants of the same armor pattern, or another darn space marine vehicle variant every few months. But apparently people are eating it up, as they show no sign of stopping.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 cygnnus wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Fantasy Spacemarines = Brotherhood of Zealous Knights

It's not like they are going to have bolguns and powerarmor. Although truth be told, I would play 40K Space Marines in the Fantasy setting if I could get away with it.

Of course not!

But they will have repeating crossbows called Bolt Throwers.

And enchanted plate armor with many powers.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT from Space Marines.

And I am quite sure they will be unable to conceptualize fright!

Valete,

JohnS

CONFIRMED FALSE RUMOR-They'll have blades on the end of flails called "Sword Chains"
And the greatest Order are the seagoing knights whose azure armor has given them the name Aquamarines.

I heard that if the Aquamarines take a lord, a hero, and two core choices, they get all their horses and chariots for free.

Obviously the Aquamarine are an entirely original idea, afterall they are a totally different colour to Ultramarine.

Well, this was an amazing discussion to read first thing in the morning!

Serious question: will these new knights have anything special in the way of shoulder pads?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I am well aware of that word, and its history. I refuse to use it here out of respect for others. I don't see such refusal as childish, but rather mature.

Using it in a discussion about the word and saying it to someones face, are acts separated by almost as wide a distance as the act of murder and the transcription of one.

I realize this is an area where europeans and americans are probably gonna have some problems seeing eye to eye, it's just such a different attitude towards these things...

It's not a rumour, my spy has confirmed that space marine style knights will feature in AOS.

The story is thus: alarmed by the rise of chaos, and wanting to re-unite the world, Sigmar uses his own genetic material to create knightly orders. He will use these knights to launch his greater crusade, and conquer this new world. There are 20 knightly orders. Here are their names and colour schemes:

Imperial hands. Yellow/gold

Dark Bangels. Dark green and white

Aquamarines are confirmed.

Apple white scars. White with red trim

Iron fingers. Black/silver

Star wolves. Colours unknown

Starrier wolves. Light blue. Will have ginger beards.

Crow guard. Black

Beta legion: similar to aquamarines.

land eaters. Red

Sigmar's children. Purple.

Life guard. Green

Iron fighters: silver

Thousand daughters. Female focused group. This is GW's plan to increase its demographic appeal.

Gekko: a knightly cult that worships lizards. green and fire colours.

Blood bagels: red. Tasked with defending the empire's baked goods.

Dawn lords: dark blue. They get up early and attack people when they're still sleeping.

Dictionary bearers: red.

As always, If I get any more info, you'll hear it here first. You'll note that 2 names are missing. My spy is working on getting these.

Ugh. Can we lock this thread yet? Just seems to be wandering off topic massively.

 Alpharius wrote:
Bubblehammer AND Fantasy Space Marines "confirmed"?!?

Oh boy...

So this is where the Rainbow Warriors ended

Just a quick question:

Is it bad that I can read these 'Fantasy Space marine' jokes and actually believe that GW would do this to us?

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

Spoiler:

It's not a rumour, my spy has confirmed that space marine style knights will feature in AOS.

The story is thus: alarmed by the rise of chaos, and wanting to re-unite the world, Sigmar uses his own genetic material to create knightly orders. He will use these knights to launch his greater crusade, and conquer this new world. There are 20 knightly orders. Here are their names and colour schemes:

Imperial hands. Yellow/gold

Dark Bangels. Dark green and white

Aquamarines are confirmed.

Apple white scars. White with red trim

Iron fingers. Black/silver

Star wolves. Colours unknown

Starrier wolves. Light blue. Will have ginger beards.

Crow guard. Black

Beta legion: similar to aquamarines.

land eaters. Red

Sigmar's children. Purple.

Life guard. Green

Iron fighters: silver

Thousand daughters. Female focused group. This is GW's plan to increase its demographic appeal.

Gekko: a knightly cult that worships lizards. green and fire colours.

Blood bagels: red. Tasked with defending the empire's baked goods.

Dawn lords: dark blue. They get up early and attack people when they're still sleeping.

Dictionary bearers: red.

As always, If I get any more info, you'll hear it here first. You'll note that 2 names are missing. My spy is working on getting these. [spoiler]

Ever heard of an overused joke ?

Yeah, can we please try to limit the humour (such as it is) and get back to the topic (such as it is)?

The problem is a Mod is encouraging the wandering....

Honestly I hope we start to hear some concrete stuff soon. I've built up a tiny sum in case I like what I see so fingers crossed it's good.

Exalts.... Exalts everywhere.

The problem is GW.

If they told us what they were releasing, like what 99.9% of normal companies do, people like myself wouldn't be reduced to lame humour to pass the time.

Fallout 4 is out in the Autumn. How do I know that? Because Bethesda told the world not that long ago. Do you think they waited until two weeks before their release date?

We could be planning armies, building terrain, budgeting our money for purchases, discussing tactics etc etc if we knew what we were getting with AOS

FLGS could be busy organising launch parties or taking customer orders.

Or, like me, you could be placing orders to buy miniatures from other companies, because they were upfront about their release schedule.

I there's a general sense of meh towards AOS, then GW only have themselves to blame, something their defenders fail to acknowledge.

 Charles Rampant wrote:
Yeah, can we please try to limit the humour (such as it is) and get back to the topic (such as it is)?

That's a good idea - let's all please do that.

Thanks!

Ok I am just putting out some TheoryHammer here.

Lets guess that Warhammer: AoS is a new stand alone game with rules to play skirmish or small games. Which seems to be a common view.

No stopping us from playing bigger games with the same rules.

At least until GW sells us an expansion on the rules for bigger and apocalyptic size armies. Then we will all buy the new stuff and praise GW for their fine game product development.

Now lets look at the facts. Age of Sigmar is coming out July 11th. That's it. Have a nice day.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
The problem is GW.

If they told us what they were releasing, like what 99.9% of normal companies do, people like myself wouldn't be reduced to lame humour to pass the time.

Fallout 4 is out in the Autumn. How do I know that? Because Bethesda told the world not that long ago. Do you think they waited until two weeks before their release date?

We could be planning armies, building terrain, budgeting our money for purchases, discussing tactics etc etc if we knew what we were getting with AOS

FLGS could be busy organising launch parties or taking customer orders.

Or, like me, you could be placing orders to buy miniatures from other companies, because they were upfront about their release schedule.

I there's a general sense of meh towards AOS, then GW only have themselves to blame, something their defenders fail to acknowledge.

The other thing is that GW have also just done this 6-8 month run of 5 £40 books complete with about 6-8 £50-£60 kits, happily encouraging people to build up large armies that combine multiple factions...and all the rumours are pointing to a much, much smaller scale with certain armies getting shoved to mandatory references much like certain things were in 2nd ed. 40k (Hiya Squats!). That really, really isn't a healthy approach for a company to take - people have put frightening amounts of money into armies and all signs point to them only really being able to use a fraction of it in their new 'rules', having to mass rebase (or risk having a fugly mish mash appearance should they add new units or characters) or having to sit there stagnant while we wait for yet another 'surprise' release that'll get leaked out a week or so in advance.

That and the fact a lot of people still remember when they would tease new releases 3 months ahead of time so people could be prepared. It generated a sales rush in those 3 months - hey, Marines coming out in 3 months - everyone starts to buy Marines and the few 'new' units that come out also sell as people couldn't buy those in advance.

Personally, I sold all my Fantasy off. All of it. Admittedly a lot of that had to do with my work cocking up and paying me £0 for the month of May (have to pay rent somehow) but also because I just wasn't happy with the direction it was going. The fact they pushed the End Times rules into the core rules made it worse. Oh, running mono-Dark Elves? Sucks to be you. Oh, Lizardmen? Cute.

AoS has not really gotten a positive response anywhere. The fact the rumours are pointing toward a 'skirmish' system which is more 'interactive' with round bases?

Gods damnit GW. If I wanted to play Warmachine I'd play Warmachine.
WFB was my go to for massed units and now you're killing that so...uh....Mantic it is then.
Heck, you murdered Specialist Games long ago - hurrah internet keeping them alive.

And considering the fact that Fantasy was one of their big two...seriously. We need more than a fancy graphic three weeks early to get us interested. You're potentially changing the basic fundamentals of one of your big two systems and all we definately know so far is its name.

Really?

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
The problem is GW.

If they told us what they were releasing, like what 99.9% of normal companies do, people like myself wouldn't be reduced to lame humour to pass the time.

Fallout 4 is out in the Autumn. How do I know that? Because Bethesda told the world not that long ago. Do you think they waited until two weeks before their release date?

We could be planning armies, building terrain, budgeting our money for purchases, discussing tactics etc etc if we knew what we were getting with AOS

FLGS could be busy organising launch parties or taking customer orders.

Or, like me, you could be placing orders to buy miniatures from other companies, because they were upfront about their release schedule.

I there's a general sense of meh towards AOS, then GW only have themselves to blame, something their defenders fail to acknowledge.

The other thing is that GW have also just done this 6-8 month run of 5 £40 books complete with about 6-8 £50-£60 kits, happily encouraging people to build up large armies that combine multiple factions...and all the rumours are pointing to a much, much smaller scale with certain armies getting shoved to mandatory references much like certain things were in 2nd ed. 40k (Hiya Squats!). That really, really isn't a healthy approach for a company to take - people have put frightening amounts of money into armies and all signs point to them only really being able to use a fraction of it in their new 'rules', having to mass rebase (or risk having a fugly mish mash appearance should they add new units or characters) or having to sit there stagnant while we wait for yet another 'surprise' release that'll get leaked out a week or so in advance.

That and the fact a lot of people still remember when they would tease new releases 3 months ahead of time so people could be prepared. It generated a sales rush in those 3 months - hey, Marines coming out in 3 months - everyone starts to buy Marines and the few 'new' units that come out also sell as people couldn't buy those in advance.

Personally, I sold all my Fantasy off. All of it. Admittedly a lot of that had to do with my work cocking up and paying me £0 for the month of May (have to pay rent somehow) but also because I just wasn't happy with the direction it was going. The fact they pushed the End Times rules into the core rules made it worse. Oh, running mono-Dark Elves? Sucks to be you. Oh, Lizardmen? Cute.

AoS has not really gotten a positive response anywhere. The fact the rumours are pointing toward a 'skirmish' system which is more 'interactive' with round bases?

Gods damnit GW. If I wanted to play Warmachine I'd play Warmachine.
WFB was my go to for massed units and now you're killing that so...uh....Mantic it is then.
Heck, you murdered Specialist Games long ago - hurrah internet keeping them alive.

And considering the fact that Fantasy was one of their big two...seriously. We need more than a fancy graphic three weeks early to get us interested. You're potentially changing the basic fundamentals of one of your big two systems and all we definately know so far is its name.

Really?

Couldn't agree more. The short-sightedness of GW never fails to amaze me. I mentioned terrain earlier, and normal retailers would do things like buy 2, get one free on terrain kits, if they had a big launch, or 10% off paints and brushes on launch night etc etc

I remember call of duty launch nights at my local video games store, and they had one night only reductions on control pads, cables, accessories etc etc because they were a normal retailer trying to sell as much stuff as possible and get as mnay customers in the door, as possible.

A question to any FLGS owners on this site: are you planning a launch day/party when AOS comes out, or is it being met with a shrug of the shoulders?

GW actually discourages sales of any sort on their products from retailers. They view it as competition with their web store.

 Thargrim wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
Ugh, God. Because what WHFB needed was to just be a slightly more medieval version of 40k.

I anxiously await FW reintroducing their fantasy line with endless iterations of the same basic knight but with different plumes and pauldrons to indicate his specific order... and, of course, the obligatory cataphractii full plate Ogres and contemptor armored Giants each customized sequentially for every order as well.

Spoiler:

We'd be lucky to even get that from ForgeWorld, they are really pre-occupied with the Horus Heresy stuff. No time or space for work on anything else, which is a shame. At first I was really excited about all the Horus Heresy stuff...but now its getting really, really old. I miss their amazing sculpts, like the Great Unclean One, Khorne Daemon Prince...way better than slight variants of the same armor pattern, or another darn space marine vehicle variant every few months. But apparently people are eating it up, as they show no sign of stopping.

In the grim darkness of the future there are only humans, fighting humans. As someone who hasn't bothered to read the HH books, I can only assume that the other factions/races didn't exist in the galaxy during that period? For an ancient race, it's odd that the Eldar weren't doing anything at that time...no Ork or Dark Eldar raids? Tyranids hadn't entered the galaxy yet?