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 NAVARRO wrote:
Hummm, correct me if Im wrong but the main trend here seems to be that 40k fans and new folks are loving this and vets not that much?

Well, a lot of the comments I've noticed here in favour of the Sigmarites have been about using them as conversion fodder in 40K.

@Navarro - bingo. Which explains the sculpting. What better way to draw in players from 40K than to make a faction that looks almost exactly like something from that universe.

@Pretre - lol


Edit:

If they didn't suck so much, I'd buy these models to make a BA army.

It just goes to show how daft 40K is in having all those hammers, swords, shields etc

If they'd just stuck to guns and the 'fisty fists of power' there's be a lot less confusion with this new set of minis

Mymearan wrote:
I haven't seen anyone calling reasonable, negative posts "nerdrage".

Really? I replied to two posts on that theme, one using that exact term.

And the point of everyone borrowing or taking influence from everything else is, as already mentioned, it makes the position of uberfans (much less GW itself) of GW's worlds being amazing unique little snowflakes that give them just what they want, something that can't be found anywhere else, a tad less tenable. It was already there, all written out; the first couple of glimpses we have of the changes in this new world, and the comparisons to PP, Mantic, Blizzard, and so on, just kinda pin it to the table. With a cricket-bat-sized steampunk dagger.

Well I dont have really anything to add since most of the things have been said BUT what is wrong with "panthers" feet. His paws/claws are positioned really strangely.

Raptor claws! Everything has to have raptor claws these days. Colin Treverrow demands it.

 pretre wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
Literally nothing in those pictures says WARHAMMER to me.

What about the warhammers? Don't those say Warhammer?

Oddly no they don't, they don't fit the aesthetic at all. If anything they look like a dwarf weapon from skyrim.

I can't see any of those new models being lined up next to the current WFB range and fitting in. I think even the chaos models would look out of place next to the current chaos warriors etc.

it's not a griffin nor a panther, it's a dragon without wings

I'm digging those round bases lol

A few folks have mentioned the WoW similarities, but iirc WoW started off as a GW Warhammer game but they went their separate ways and blizzard went on and released their own game with elves, dwarfs, orcs and humans. Did quite well, I think.

Like the MEdge stuff, people see what they want to see. I don't see any space marine vibe, except the on the blood angel sanguinary guard face plates, which resemble ancient armour anyway? And SMs are basically Space Knights... In spaaaace!

Folks here made their minds up as soon as AoS was leaked, and nothing would change their minds about the models, rules or perceived value. Ahhhh, the Internet.

@vermis why do you bother posting in this thread so much when you don't care for warhammer in the slightest and just want to piss on people's parade?

Tamereth wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
Literally nothing in those pictures says WARHAMMER to me.

What about the warhammers? Don't those say Warhammer?

Oddly no they don't, they don't fit the aesthetic at all. If anything they look like a dwarf weapon from skyrim.

I can't see any of those new models being lined up next to the current WFB range and fitting in. I think even the chaos models would look out of place next to the current chaos warriors etc.

Dude, WHFB is dead. None of the current stuff fits in with the old stuff. We've moved on, whether we like it or not! The Sigmar dudes are, I think, a new faction, so there are no existing models to compare them to. Chaos is chaos. Bulky spikes and more spikes!

Love everything I'm seeing. I'm down for 2 boxsets, I've been saving up!

I am not exactly disappointed, as that boat sailed long ago.

Took one look at the Sigmarites and wrote off th entire game. No thankyou, moving on.

8.5 Ed is the answer, self police what we already had.

Angels are not so unique.

Angels in a faction where there's also a boss man on a battle cat...




Oh. Well then.



Seriously, I do like the models so if the rules are good and the prices are reasonable, I might give it a shot. So there's basically no chance I'll be giving it a shot.

Those mantic models look like gak compared to the GW sculpts

 Bottle wrote:
Those mantic models look like gak compared to the GW sculpts

I agree.



What does that have to do with the fact that Mantic has an army of angels led by a Dude on a Battle Cat and made it before GW made their army of angels led by a Dude on a Battle Cat? Just because I did something gakkily doesn't mean that it's not my idea and not defensible under IP law.

 Bottle wrote:
Those mantic models look like gak compared to the GW sculpts

I think it looks nicer. It is not covered in useless crap that no soldier in their right mind would wear into combat. Can't see X amount of skulls per Center meter etc.

Plus I have this model and it is way nicer than it looks. Beats GW models in my opinion purely on design. But the model itself is pretty good as well. Especially with many of GW models setting the bar really low... like cadians.

Eh. The Mantic stuff isn't that bad.

If all that stuff is included in the starter, and the starter is a reasonable price, I can see myself picking one up just to give it a try.

At least unlike the sanguinary guys the sigmarines don't have faces sculpted onto their helmets. Can't stand that usually.

Now if GW want to throw in a few small pieces of scenery with the box, that would really seal the deal...

once agains, it's not a battle cat, but a wingless dragon

Upon closer inspection on a better monitor, you are correct, it does appear to be a wingless lizard of some kind.

 monders wrote:

Tamereth wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
Literally nothing in those pictures says WARHAMMER to me.

What about the warhammers? Don't those say Warhammer?

Oddly no they don't, they don't fit the aesthetic at all. If anything they look like a dwarf weapon from skyrim.

I can't see any of those new models being lined up next to the current WFB range and fitting in. I think even the chaos models would look out of place next to the current chaos warriors etc.

Dude, WHFB is dead. None of the current stuff fits in with the old stuff. We've moved on, whether we like it or not!

Split personality or something? A few minutes before that you posted...

Folks here made their minds up as soon as AoS was leaked, and nothing would change their minds about the models, rules or perceived value. Ahhhh, the Internet.

So unless you know exactly what is coming you cannot really claim WHFB is dead or that the old stuff does not fit... because like all of us you know... nothing. Talk about people making their minds based on just personal convictions



As for "40k folks will be all over this" argument... will AOS not cannibalize 40k sales and vice versa? What is the gain here?

 monders wrote:

Tamereth wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
Literally nothing in those pictures says WARHAMMER to me.

What about the warhammers? Don't those say Warhammer?

Oddly no they don't, they don't fit the aesthetic at all. If anything they look like a dwarf weapon from skyrim.

I can't see any of those new models being lined up next to the current WFB range and fitting in. I think even the chaos models would look out of place next to the current chaos warriors etc.

Dude, WHFB is dead. None of the current stuff fits in with the old stuff. We've moved on, whether we like it or not! The Sigmar dudes are, I think, a new faction, so there are no existing models to compare them to. Chaos is chaos. Bulky spikes and more spikes!

Yeah, this. The point was to make something that looked nothing like the old game. We won't see any new kits with the old aesthetic going forward. It's sigmarines all the way down!

 Tamereth wrote:
Literally nothing in those pictures says WARHAMMER to me.

If you had posted them saying they were the next release for Warmachine I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

If GW wanted to do something different why didn't they just do a new game. There was no need to kill Warhammer for this.

This IS a new game. This is Age of Sigmar - not Warhammer 9th.

 Dullspork wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
Literally nothing in those pictures says WARHAMMER to me.

If you had posted them saying they were the next release for Warmachine I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

If GW wanted to do something different why didn't they just do a new game. There was no need to kill Warhammer for this.

This IS a new game. This is Age of Sigmar - not Warhammer 9th.

While that is true, there is nothing saying that Age of Sigmar isn't the "beginner" version of what Warhammer 9th will be. Nor is it saying that there will even be a Warhammer 9th. This could very well be Warhammer's replacement.

We just don't have enough information yet.

 NAVARRO wrote:

As for "40k folks will be all over this" argument... will AOS not cannibalize 40k sales and vice versa? What is the gain here?

I remember seeing some Blizzard interview after they released Hearthstone. They were asked why they would make something that would take players from one of their existing games. Their reply was that the customer was still paying and playing Blizzard stuff and not going elsewhere.

I guess GW see people going from 40K to fantasy (aos) as still money for them and not elsewhere. In the current tabletop climate there's a lot of other places to go to now. And if all the financial info people post is anything to go by, then GW can't afford to lose many more customers to other companies.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

As for "40k folks will be all over this" argument... will AOS not cannibalize 40k sales and vice versa? What is the gain here?

I remember seeing some Blizzard interview after they released Hearthstone. They were asked why they would make something that would take players from one of their existing games. Their reply was that the customer was still paying and playing Blizzard stuff and not going elsewhere.

I guess GW see people going from 40K to fantasy (aos) as still money for them and not elsewhere. In the current tabletop climate there's a lot of other places to go to now. And if all the financial info people post is anything to go by, then GW can't afford to lose many more customers to other companies.

Wish that occurred to them before they axed their specialist range instead of supporting it.

 Dullspork wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
Literally nothing in those pictures says WARHAMMER to me.

If you had posted them saying they were the next release for Warmachine I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

If GW wanted to do something different why didn't they just do a new game. There was no need to kill Warhammer for this.

This IS a new game. This is Age of Sigmar - not Warhammer 9th.

Can't help but notice the name Warhammer in that picture...

 RatBot wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Those mantic models look like gak compared to the GW sculpts

I agree.



What does that have to do with the fact that Mantic has an army of angels led by a Dude on a Battle Cat and made it before GW made their army of angels led by a Dude on a Battle Cat? Just because I did something gakkily doesn't mean that it's not my idea and not defensible under IP law.

GW also had a faction of space orks wielding claw-like close combat weapons and driving ramshackle buggies. Just sayin'

Warhammer is dead, long life the new game!

Not that I'll be playing it. Even if I wanted too, warhammer died here a few years ago.